Manchester Black wrote:
I see what Prime is saying.Buu cam copy moves but only moves involving the use of ki.Yes IT involves ki use as those the kamehameha.Buu couldn’t copy Gotenks Ghost Kamikaze attack until after he absorbed him.
So what is considered a ki attack or ability exactly?
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Well, it has never been said that it takes Ki to use IT. IT only locks onto things with Ki.
Teleportation in DBZ involves ki right?
It might, and not to be trying to use a no limits fallacy but I don’t think Buu is limited to copying ki attacks.
This may be a bad analogy but...I’m going to try anyway, If a kid grows up with parents who speak english he will grow up speaking that language but that doesn’t mean that was the only language he could learn.
Perhaps Buu could use a ki variation of abilities?
Manchester Black wrote:
Show me Buu vibrating out of a persons grips.
If a fly lands on you and you move it’s moving with you. Plus superman wouldn’t be able to move since buu controling his body
Manchester Black wrote:
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He could fly near the sun(unless its said by Chibi to be leaving the battlefield)also since Supes cells absorb so much solar radiation its not good to go inside him.
lol at the sun hurting buu. Also superman couldn’t move even if he could leave.
Manchester Black wrote:
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No I showed you him scaring it away by firing heat vision at it that was low so it would stop.
Even assuming it’s planet busting it’s not enough to kill buu
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Buster Sword wrote:
Prove that you wouldn’t deny it then. Thought so.
Manchester Black wrote:
I see what Prime is saying.Buu cam copy moves but only moves involving the use of ki.Yes IT involves ki use as those the kamehameha.Buu couldn’t copy Gotenks Ghost Kamikaze attack until after he absorbed him.
IT doesn’t involve ki. The person uses IT and that’s it. The ki searching is something different
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Buster Sword wrote:
Prove that you wouldn’t deny it then. Thought so.
Whatever. Anyone twice as fast as Radtiz would fully dodge it and anyone more than 20times faster can dodge lightspeed
You just said reflexes aren’t travelling speed, so what the HELL are you talking about?
The sub version I saw and the manga both say “He sidestepped it”
Which doesn’t make him faster than light, because he didn’t do a greater distance in the same time. Was there any mention of the speed of the attack in the manga?
Whatever, point is anyone more than 10 or 20 times is faster than light
Again, when are relfexes travelling speed, you yourself just admitted this in your previous post, now you are going against it?
Says me cause it shows how fast you can move in terms of dodging. Plus I’ve proven it wasn’t a reflex
You didn’t prove anything actually, you freaking left the Darkseid thread because your ego got dented, so stop lying. It’s not how fast they can move, it’s how fast they can dodge.
Why not? To use it hit the moon in 3 seconds. I’m only saying 10 to be generious. How long do you think it took him then?
Because our time =/= DBZ time. I don’t give a definate speed, because of what I just said.
Gohan could. Why not buu?
I guess because the Flash can cover the entire earth in less than a second, Superman can do it too. Intangible + Intangible would still mean Superman gets out lol.
If a fly lands on you and you move it’s moving with you. Plus superman wouldn’t be able to move since buu controling his body
Wrong dude, since when can regualr people become intangible? That’s a bad analogy, because you completely missed out the variable as to why Superman gets out in your analogy. Superman doesn’t have to move to become intangible.
Buster Sword wrote:
You just said reflexes aren’t travelling speed, so what the HELL are you talking about?
I’m talking about dodging/fighting speed. That’s not the same as traveling speed
Buster Sword wrote:
Which doesn’t make him faster than light, because he didn’t do a greater distance in the same time. Was there any mention of the speed of the attack in the manga?
Yes it does in terms of dodging and fight speed
Buster Sword wrote:
Again, when are relfexes travelling speed, you yourself just admitted this in your previous post, now you are going against it?
I’m talking about being faster than light in terms of dodging and fighting speed
Buster Sword wrote:
You didn’t prove anything actually, you freaking left the Darkseid thread because your ego got dented, so stop lying. It’s not how fast they can move, it’s how fast they can dodge.
I proved it to you. Raditz saw it coming so it wasn’t a reflex and I’m talking about dodging/fighting speed
Buster Sword wrote:
Because our time =/= DBZ time. I don’t give a definate speed, because of what I just said.
DBZ time =/= ourr time only when time is given afterwards. The fight on namek to us was an hour but stated to have really been 7 minutes. Everything else is real time.
Buster Sword wrote:
I guess because the Flash can cover the entire earth in less than a second, Superman can do it too. Intangible + Intangible would still mean Superman gets out lol.
If superman is faster. And then how is superman going to hit buu?
Buster Sword wrote:
Wrong dude, since when can regualr people become intangible? That’s a bad analogy, because you completely missed out the variable as to why Superman gets out in your analogy. Superman doesn’t have to move to become intangible.
yes he does.
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Buster Sword wrote:
Prove that you wouldn’t deny it then. Thought so.
I’m talking about dodging/fighting speed. That’s not the same as traveling speed
Then don’t say they are faster than light when they aren’t. And that still doesn’t prove they can fight at lightspeed. Cloud can dodge lightning, doesn’t mean he can fight at that speed.
I’m talking about being faster than light in terms of dodging and fighting speed
Read the above dude.
I proved it to you. Raditz saw it coming so it wasn’t a reflex and I’m talking about dodging/fighting speed
No you didn’t because I countered it, and then you replied int the Darkseid thread 'Prove it. Until then it’s not a reflex' I countered that dude. And also Raditz seeing it coming doesn’t not make it a reflex, do you even know what STIMULUS AND SENSORY input is? last time I checked your sight was one of your senses. Dogs drool because they smell nice food.
DBZ time =/= ourr time only when time is given afterwards. The fight on namek to us was an hour but stated to have really been 7 minutes. Everything else is real time.
Contradicts Picoolo’s beam, if it was faster than light and in our time, the attack wouldn’t have taken so long to reach Raditz.
If superman is faster. And then how is superman going to hit buu?
Superman is faster, what the hell has Buu done to show how fast he is, other than your word? Oh and way to go about ignoring me pointing out your flawed logic. How is Superman going to hit Buu? Do you even know Buu can go intangible? Or are you just saying that because Gohan was? And was this when Gohan was moving side by side or was it Goku? I forget.
yes he does.
Again, flawed logic which comes back with 'yes he does'
Buster Sword wrote:
Then don’t say they are faster than light when they aren’t. And that still doesn’t prove they can fight at lightspeed. Cloud can dodge lightning, doesn’t mean he can fight at that speed.
King kai was able to keep up with Goku’s ship which was faster than light but when he was fighting Freeza king kai states they’re moving so fast he can’t keep up so they can fight at lightspeed
Buster Sword wrote:
No you didn’t because I countered it, and then you replied int the Darkseid thread 'Prove it. Until then it’s not a reflex' I countered that dude. And also Raditz seeing it coming doesn’t not make it a reflex, do you even know what STIMULUS AND SENSORY input is? last time I checked your sight was one of your senses. Dogs drool because they smell nice food.
But he challged the beam. I guess every time someone dodges something it’s a refelx huh?
Buster Sword wrote:
Contradicts Picoolo’s beam, if it was faster than light and in our time, the attack wouldn’t have taken so long to reach Raditz.
It took a second to hit reach him minus the “dramatic look”
Buster Sword wrote:
Superman is faster, what the hell has Buu done to show how fast he is, other than your word? Oh and way to go about ignoring me pointing out your flawed logic. How is Superman going to hit Buu? Do you even know Buu can go intangible? Or are you just saying that because Gohan was? And was this when Gohan was moving side by side or was it Goku? I forget.
Then is he’s faster then he can do whatever the flash can. and my logic isn’t flawed. You’re just an idiot
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Buster Sword wrote:
Again, flawed logic which comes back with 'yes he does'
superman doesn’t just become intangable, he has to move really fast. something he can’t do if you know...HE CANT MOVE
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Buster Sword wrote:
Prove that you wouldn’t deny it then. Thought so.
King kai was able to keep up with Goku’s ship which was faster than light but when he was fighting Freeza king kai states they’re moving so fast he can’t keep up so they can fight at lightspeed
Were’t you the one saying travelling speed =/= lightspeed? Lol epic fail.
But he challged the beam. I guess every time someone dodges something it’s a refelx huh?
No he didn’t challenege the special beam. He sidestepped it like you said, stop freaking lying. And again you fail because you are forgetting the important thing, the SPEED OF THE PROJECTILE. Light travels faster than though, you couldn’t prove he was thinking at lightspeed, hence it being a reflex.
It took a second to hit reach him minus the “dramatic look”
A second is more than enough time for the attack to scale the earth once, which it didn’t.
Then is he’s faster then he can do whatever the flash can. and my logic isn’t flawed. You’re just an idiot
He isn’t faster than the Flash, I was comparing two compeltely different characters which you are going. The Flash is faster than Post Crisis Supes, but the Flash does not posses the abilities Superman has. Idiot? That would be valid if you weren’t proven to look stupid on plenty of occaisions but if you want to go on with the petty insults, be my guest.
superman doesn’t just become intangable, he has to move really fast. something he can’t do if you know...HE CANT MOVE
Buster Sword wrote:
Were’t you the one saying travelling speed =/= lightspeed? Lol epic fail.
you’re the one who wanted proof they can fight at lightspeed. epic fail for not remembering 5 seconds ago
Buster Sword wrote:
No he didn’t challenege the special beam. He sidestepped it like you said, stop freaking lying. And again you fail because you are forgetting the important thing, the SPEED OF THE PROJECTILE. Light travels faster than though, you couldn’t prove he was thinking at lightspeed, hence it being a reflex.
So why did he say
“ALRIGHT GREEN BEAN HIT ME WITH YOUR BEST SHOT?"
Buster Sword wrote:
A second is more than enough time for the attack to scale the earth once, which it didn’t.
Cause it hit his armor. Plus it would have gone in space not around the earth. fail
Buster Sword wrote:
He isn’t faster than the Flash, I was comparing two compeltely different characters which you are going. The Flash is faster than Post Crisis Supes, but the Flash does not posses the abilities Superman has. Idiot? That would be valid if you weren’t proven to look stupid on plenty of occaisions but if you want to go on with the petty insults, be my guest.
but he’s still faster? And that’s all it comes down to. No you and your feeble mind only think you’ve made me look like an idiot, but really you didn’t
Buster Sword wrote:
He does it when standing still. Fail.
God you’re an idiot. He’s moving so fast it LOOKS like he’s standing still same with Goku. Krillin even said
“He moved to fast it LOOKED like he never moved” superman does have to move but does so so fast it looks like he’s standing still. wow you’re stupid. fail buster, you fail like never before
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Buster Sword wrote:
Prove that you wouldn’t deny it then. Thought so.
the one who wanted proof they can fight at lightspeed. epic fail for not remembering 5 seconds ago
You were talking about how fast Kai travelled. Fail
So why did he say
“ALRIGHT GREEN BEAN HIT ME WITH YOUR BEST SHOT?"
If he challenged it, he wouldn’t move out of the way. Lol DUH
Cause it hit his armor. Plus it would have gone in space not around the earth. fail
The blast carried on. Fail If the attack was off the top of a mountain, then yeah, but IT WASN’T. EPIC FAIL.
but he’s still faster? And that’s all it comes down to. No you and your feeble mind only think you’ve made me look like an idiot, but really you didn’t
Flash is faster than Superman, but doesn’t possess all his abilities. And that’s why you fail. Make you like like an idiot? You do that all by yourself with your god ego complex which fails so badly it
s not even funny, you NEVER come back when someone posts somethign that severly dents your insane ego.
God you’re an idiot. He’s moving so fast it LOOKS like he’s standing still same with Goku. Krillin even said
“He moved to fast it LOOKED like he never moved” superman does have to move but does so so fast it looks like he’s standing still. wow you’re stupid. fail buster, you fail like never before
I was talking about Superman, what the fuck have you been smoking? It’s not the same with Goku because it was proven he wasn’t standing still, prove Superman wasn’t standing still. Oh wait you can’t.
You are making it impossible for me to be civil, but thank GOD I’m not a the condescending ego maniac who think Super Buu could solo Marvel and DC, thinks your heart stops when you sneeze, thinks you have to think out a reflex, got OWNED about the Ali incident and kept so quiet we had peace for a while, just get off your high horse and debate, it seems impossible for you for some reason, which is sad and pathetic.
Buster Sword wrote:
You were talking about how fast Kai travelled. Fail
and then you asked for proof on how it means they can fight lightspeed so I gave you an example. fail
Buster Sword wrote:
If he challenged it, he wouldn’t move out of the way. Lol DUH
Clearly he changed his mind
Buster Sword wrote:
The blast carried on. Fail If the attack was off the top of a mountain, then yeah, but IT WASN’T. EPIC FAIL.
No it exploded and that was it. Wow. Just wow. You fail so many times. How old are you? Don’t you fucking know the earth is curved? If something goes straight and keeps going straight it’s going into space.
you can see the kamehameha fired in the same posistion as the SBC but didn’t go around the earth? No. Fail. EPIC FAIL. Words cannot describe how dumb you are. Fail. I cannot say it enough. Fail fail fail.
Buster Sword wrote:
Flash is faster than Superman, but doesn’t possess all his abilities. And that’s why you fail. Make you like like an idiot? You do that all by yourself with your god ego complex which fails so badly it
s not even funny, you NEVER come back when someone posts somethign that severly dents your insane ego.
it doesn’t matter. if he’s faster he can do what superman can do speed wise. Also I didn’t come back cause I was tired arguing with your dumbass self. Fuck you’re so dumb. Don’t even know the earth is round. fail
Buster Sword wrote:
I was talking about Superman, what the fuck have you been smoking? It’s not the same with Goku because it was proven he wasn’t standing still, prove Superman wasn’t standing still. Oh wait you can’t.
Then I guess Gohan can do what superman was doing huh? He was moving so fast it looked like he was standing still. but if you want to be an idiotic bitch about it i’ll use gohan since he’s in the same boat. Gohan can become intangeable. so there
Buster Sword wrote:
You are making it impossible for me to be civil, but thank GOD I’m not a the condescending ego maniac who think Super Buu could solo Marvel and DC, thinks your heart stops when you sneeze, thinks you have to think out a reflex, got OWNED about the Ali incident and kept so quiet we had peace for a while, just get off your high horse and debate, it seems impossible for you for some reason, which is sad and pathetic.
sure buster, whatever makes you feel better about yourself and the fact you don’t go to school kid
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Buster Sword wrote:
Prove that you wouldn’t deny it then. Thought so.
Buster Sword wrote:
It’s not the same with Goku because it was proven he wasn’t standing still, prove Superman wasn’t standing still. Oh wait you can’t.
First off, can we debate like civilized folks without resorting to insulting one another? I mean, there is no reason to take this debate seriously. It’s just a debate.
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