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07 Sep 2008 03:51 pm
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Cid wrote:
Keollyn wrote: This is getting pretty redundant. This is pretty much reducing a person who’s supposed to fight in a battle to an observer.

None of this, at all, disregards Clark having a monumental speed advantage.

And last I recall, Clark uses that on ANYONE.


Clark doesn’t have a speed advantage dude. God damn. Do I have to do this every time you fuck up?

http://heroeswiki.com/Enhanced_speed

Future Peter absorbed that ability.

http://heroeswiki.com/Graphic_Novel:Walls%2C_Part_2

Peter is fast enough to not be seen by the human eye, just like Daphne Millbrook. She was able to switch out the picture of the Mona Lisa without any of the people present in the room seeing her do it, she was that damn fast.

Now, if I recall, when Clark moves, you can still see a blur.

Therefore... Peter is a lot faster.

Thanks. You can stop arguing now.

Peter one-ups Clark in every ability. haha


Oh my god! He was fast enough not to be seen by the human eyes?!!!!!!!

Isn’t that the speed Clark was season 1?

Please try again.

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Clark has gone so fast everyone was basically frozen in time to him. Seriously watch the episode when he plays football, he is running in for a touchdown, then goes superspeed and saves chole inside the school, then runs back to the exact place before and gets the point.. All without a single person noticing.


And this is a low-end speed feat for Clark.

When Peter is able to run to other countries in 4 seconds flat, then he can talk about being equal to Clark.
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07 Sep 2008 03:56 pm
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Tippership Commander wrote: Honestly, phasing won;t soek against clark/....

But yes, thsi is a CLark who’s powers are unlimited, he just hasn’t dsicovered how to use them...

as a matter of fact, this aint fair, caz it’s future peter... i already said this, but it needs to be superman prime..

anyway, CLark’s speedblitzes will beat peter to usign any abilitity...and, if peter tries time stop ,it wont work on clark usign his ow ntime/speed power....then, Peter’s screwed, because he has NO EXPERIENCE ALMOST for fighting at high speeds, while clark’s had superspeed battles all the time...nto to mention peter’s attacks wont work on clark

peter has super speed as well, using that uicker reaction time he’ll stop time before clark reaches him.
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07 Sep 2008 03:57 pm
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Keollyn wrote:
Cid wrote:
Keollyn wrote: This is getting pretty redundant. This is pretty much reducing a person who’s supposed to fight in a battle to an observer.

None of this, at all, disregards Clark having a monumental speed advantage.

And last I recall, Clark uses that on ANYONE.


Clark doesn’t have a speed advantage dude. God damn. Do I have to do this every time you fuck up?

http://heroeswiki.com/Enhanced_speed

Future Peter absorbed that ability.

http://heroeswiki.com/Graphic_Novel:Walls%2C_Part_2

Peter is fast enough to not be seen by the human eye, just like Daphne Millbrook. She was able to switch out the picture of the Mona Lisa without any of the people present in the room seeing her do it, she was that damn fast.

Now, if I recall, when Clark moves, you can still see a blur.

Therefore... Peter is a lot faster.

Thanks. You can stop arguing now.

Peter one-ups Clark in every ability. haha


Oh my god! He was fast enough not to be seen by the human eyes?!!!!!!!

Isn’t that the speed Clark was season 1?

Please try again.

Rorschach wrote:
Clark has gone so fast everyone was basically frozen in time to him. Seriously watch the episode when he plays football, he is running in for a touchdown, then goes superspeed and saves chole inside the school, then runs back to the exact place before and gets the point.. All without a single person noticing.


And this is a low-end speed feat for Clark.

When Peter is able to run to other countries in 4 seconds flat, then he can talk about being equal to Clark.

sure, he teleports.
and the lady shown in that wikipedia article moved around the world in a second, maybe two.
travelling speed=peter
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07 Sep 2008 04:10 pm
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Trackz wrote:
Keollyn wrote:
Cid wrote:
Keollyn wrote: This is getting pretty redundant. This is pretty much reducing a person who’s supposed to fight in a battle to an observer.

None of this, at all, disregards Clark having a monumental speed advantage.

And last I recall, Clark uses that on ANYONE.


Clark doesn’t have a speed advantage dude. God damn. Do I have to do this every time you fuck up?

http://heroeswiki.com/Enhanced_speed

Future Peter absorbed that ability.

http://heroeswiki.com/Graphic_Novel:Walls%2C_Part_2

Peter is fast enough to not be seen by the human eye, just like Daphne Millbrook. She was able to switch out the picture of the Mona Lisa without any of the people present in the room seeing her do it, she was that damn fast.

Now, if I recall, when Clark moves, you can still see a blur.

Therefore... Peter is a lot faster.

Thanks. You can stop arguing now.

Peter one-ups Clark in every ability. haha


Oh my god! He was fast enough not to be seen by the human eyes?!!!!!!!

Isn’t that the speed Clark was season 1?

Please try again.

Rorschach wrote:
Clark has gone so fast everyone was basically frozen in time to him. Seriously watch the episode when he plays football, he is running in for a touchdown, then goes superspeed and saves chole inside the school, then runs back to the exact place before and gets the point.. All without a single person noticing.


And this is a low-end speed feat for Clark.

When Peter is able to run to other countries in 4 seconds flat, then he can talk about being equal to Clark.

sure, he teleports.
and the lady shown in that wikipedia article moved around the world in a second, maybe two.
travelling speed=peter


Owned. Thanks dude. Haven’t read the graphic novels.
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07 Sep 2008 04:14 pm
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Teleportation =/= Speed

I’m fairly sure the formula for speed is distance over time. Didn’t they teach you this in school?

And you’re going to have to post scans of this “around the world in one second” given that I’ve never heard this bullshit in any Heroes threads.

@ Cid: You can’t be owned when someone doesn’t even know teleportation =/= speed.

Oh... and Clark’s country cross speed feat was in season 5. Season 6 he fought someone who moves at the speed of light.

I’d hope you know (given you don’t even know the formula for speed) that going around the world one time in 1 second =/= the speed of light
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07 Sep 2008 04:56 pm
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Keollyn wrote: Teleportation =/= Speed

I’m fairly sure the formula for speed is distance over time. Didn’t they teach you this in school?

And you’re going to have to post scans of this “around the world in one second” given that I’ve never heard this bullshit in any Heroes threads.

@ Cid: You can’t be owned when someone doesn’t even know teleportation =/= speed.

Oh... and Clark’s country cross speed feat was in season 5. Season 6 he fought someone who moves at the speed of light.

I’d hope you know (given you don’t even know the formula for speed) that going around the world one time in 1 second =/= the speed of light

yes. however I Fail to see how this matters as peter having accelrated reaction time would mean he would be able to stop time before clark could get to him
and I also hope your realize fighting someone who can go at light speed doesnt mean that you’re light speed either, unless you have proo the person he was fighting was moving at top speed.
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07 Sep 2008 05:01 pm
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So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.
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07 Sep 2008 05:36 pm
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That’s right, phasing won’t work...heck, Clark could ....or will do that, when he learns it....but honestly, THere’s no way the tme stop will work...Clark’s acceleration powers will put an end to that...if you want proof of the flexibility of that sort of speed, watch smallville episodes “Run” and “Justice” ...too bad i missed “accelerate” and it’s not on the web....

anyway....
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Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.


Peter was actually shown to exhibit the same speed in the link.
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07 Sep 2008 05:53 pm
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Besides, PEter can’t win in a speed fight against Clark....CLark has WAY more experience in that type of fight
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Prime Time wrote: Besides, PEter can’t win in a speed fight against Clark....CLark has WAY more experience in that type of fight


Future Peter has 5 years, it’s unknown how much he fought in that time.
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07 Sep 2008 06:18 pm
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...well, Clark has had more than 5 years experience

oh, btw...if we bring prime into this, peter’s screwed, i kno, he’s CLark grown up, but it’s already a fair fight as it is....otherwise, Peter is screwed, even i can see that
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07 Sep 2008 09:32 pm
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Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.

peters power is mimicry, he autoaticaly gets the same power

and you havent proven once that clark could survive hacing his brain phased out
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07 Sep 2008 09:36 pm
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Trackz wrote:
Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.

peters power is mimicry, he autoaticaly gets the same power

and you havent proven once that clark could survive hacing his brain phased out


For one thing, how would he hit him with that attack whe nclark moves faster than him?
2nd, His brain has the same immunity as does the rest of him, according to info on his invunerability

3rd: i’m going to pull up what i can, for you, bgut i KNOW thatr clark’s fought NUMEROUS intangible ppl, and HE was not only able to phase through people too, but their attacksdidnt affedc thim

There was a really good cokmic pic of Darkseid, or doomsday punching him ,and it went through him, phasign thru his head, and if didnt affect him... ill look for it
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07 Sep 2008 09:41 pm
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I think I said this already (you have to repeat yourself several times for some people)

Clark was already phased through and it didn’t bother him. The guy already died, and returned back to life due to his haling factor. Some weakling like Peter isn’t going to do anything to him because he phases. It’ll will be the same dam result

Well, not the same result, since Clark will never get in that situation since Peter will be blitz’d
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07 Sep 2008 10:02 pm
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Tippership Commander wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.

peters power is mimicry, he autoaticaly gets the same power

and you havent proven once that clark could survive hacing his brain phased out


For one thing, how would he hit him with that attack whe nclark moves faster than him?
2nd, His brain has the same immunity as does the rest of him, according to info on his invunerability

3rd: i’m going to pull up what i can, for you, bgut i KNOW thatr clark’s fought NUMEROUS intangible ppl, and HE was not only able to phase through people too, but their attacksdidnt affedc thim

There was a really good cokmic pic of Darkseid, or doomsday punching him ,and it went through him, phasign thru his head, and if didnt affect him... ill look for it

none of those intangible people could stop time, not to mention the durability wouldnt matter if peters hand materialed inside clarks head.
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Trackz wrote:
Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.

peters power is mimicry, he autoaticaly gets the same power

and you havent proven once that clark could survive hacing his brain phased out


Found it, the pic, but i dont know if i can do this right, if it messed up, someone will have to show me...Pm me...i just reclaimed the abilitity to post vids, thanks to someone, but idk about pics..


YAY, it worked!
HEre’s supes:

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07 Sep 2008 10:16 pm
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Tippership Commander wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.

peters power is mimicry, he autoaticaly gets the same power

and you havent proven once that clark could survive hacing his brain phased out


Found it, the pic, but i dont know if i can do this right, if it messed up, someone will have to show me...Pm me...i just reclaimed the abilitity to post vids, thanks to someone, but idk about pics..


YAY, it worked!
HEre’s supes:

oh thats regular superman, haha ofcouse he’d win this is smallvilles superman the one form the tv show
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Trackz wrote:
Tippership Commander wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Keollyn wrote: So Peter having superspeed because of a girl doesn’t mean he has the same speed as that girl?

See I can do that too!

I think I’ve gone over time stop already. Your only rebuttal is Peter phasing through Clark. Yo, guess what... It won’t work.

That’s what happens when you have a healing factor and already proved it won’t bother you.

peters power is mimicry, he autoaticaly gets the same power

and you havent proven once that clark could survive hacing his brain phased out


Found it, the pic, but i dont know if i can do this right, if it messed up, someone will have to show me...Pm me...i just reclaimed the abilitity to post vids, thanks to someone, but idk about pics..


YAY, it worked!
HEre’s supes:

oh thats regular superman, haha ofcouse he’d win this is smallvilles superman the one form the tv show


well, using smallville, then, te only thing that counts for him fightign materilization, would be the phantom zoners in ghost form, that attacked him...that’s the only time AS OF YET that smallville clark has done it...

Still, Smallvilel clark is clark before he becomes pre crisis clark...so the potential is great
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Tippership Commander wrote: Excuse me, but how can Peter possibly win?? im a heroes fan more than supes, but even i know this isn’t a possible win for peter


1. Superman can travel through time, and having experience with this, he’s overpower Peter trying to use tome lock on him...oh , wait, we’re not talkign about adult supes, are we?? Well, lucky you, he doesn’t know it yet...doesn’t matter....

2. His heat vision will beat Peter’s elec attack and radiation attact, being faster,

3. Peter isn’t a super genius, while Clark has super intelligence...i know, he almost never displays it, but you cant count out this factor..

4. Strength,,:: NEed i say more? one punch, it’s OVER it’s over man, game over! i remember supes beign able to push planets stats, etc...CLark on smallville has strength was in excess of Jessica, so peter’s absorbed stremgth wont helop

5: Asorbing powers doesn’t work here, because CLark is an alien physilogy, while PEter absorbs powers from other humans who’ve gained them...similar to freaks of the weeks....but otherwise, unless he could absorb a cheetah’s speed or bird’s flying talent, he can’t absorb something natural..

6. Psychic attack:: useless against CLark, whos' immune to being persuaded...we’ve seen this so many times in small ville

7: radiation:: Peter has no way of knowing about kryptonite, so he can’t win...and ,red sun radiation he doesn’t know about either ,so he has no choice but to fight clark at full power..ALso, radiation is useless against Clark, who currently emis heat from his eyes, and sees in x ray, but in the future will be able to see, and SHOOT the whole electromagnetic spectrum, AND THEN SOME!
8: ..PEter can regenerate, but how’s that going to help if he’s evaporated by heat vision set to wide blasting? Or, how’s it going to help if clark attacks him faster than he can heal? Or if clar kthrows him off the planet ,towards the sun? Clark is INVINCIBLE, to Peter.....because peter doesn;t know anything about clark...

9:
PEter’s only chance is time.stopping..oh wait, NOPE, FAIL! Clark’s reaction time is TOO fast for peter to even THINK!!Remember when Clark met Bart, this proves this! Besides ,the time effect wont help, as CLark moves so fast , tiem stops...don’t forget, this is a clark who will eventually be able to go more than 14 times the speed of light..but, time wont help if you’re knocked out in a picosecond , or LESS, by clark...even if he lets you use it, he’ll still be comign at you, usign his own power to OWN YOU!

10: ANything peter can practically do, clark can do better....he’d easily rip his head off ,and his regeneration wont help then...Im sorry, but this is rthe one guy peter loses to....i mean, the only thing clark cant tdo is a kamehameha ...and we dont even know that...



There powers are natural so he could gain Clarks

Iv seen a episode of JL where a thing could mimic powers of others. It was pure domination. The JL was lucky and the dude just stoped fighting said something like is this all you have turned gold and flew off. He had the same ability as peter
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