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[Quote] #21
10 Jun 2008 10:00 pm
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Khorib wrote: I’m curious. If I said that I don’t believe a god exists, which naturally means I think people that do believe there is a god are wrong... is that insulting?


Of course not. Christians believe Atheists are wrong, and that is not considered insulting. There is just a lot of hypocrisy in this world.
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11 Jun 2008 12:23 am
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petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

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11 Jun 2008 02:33 am
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Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

smiley


I believed in God for years and years. He did nothing. Something you will not accept.

Could he make us the perfect being if he loves us so much? He wants us to be as happy as possible. He could make us perfect, and this entire planet perfect. If the world does get fucked up, hell god could fix it with the blink of an eye.

Why god want us to think His creations? reword please. The confusion shards are swimming.

If God does not like Satan, he can eliminate him, can’t he? Or is your God not as powerful as you wish to think?
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Darth Nihilus wrote: No offense, but it almost seems as if you are becoming the Nihilist version of Gplex, Petrofsky. And we don’t need another Gplex.


Eh, I disagree. Petrofsky critisizes religion, but he doesn’t do it in such an agressive manner, he doesn’t bitch about other people’s bitching (he doesn’t bitch much at all), he doesn’t say sarcastic comments about God being evil/stupid (in his opinion).

Petrofsky does, however, have the bad habit of throwing insults like “Fuck you asshole” or “You’re a retard” if you say you hate his favourite music genre, but I don’t really care because most of the time he’s pretty nice and he doesn’t do that often.

I would also like to note that, though I think Gplex can be a bit of an ass to religion and religious people, he’s pretty respectful when it comes to other things, and he’s not always saying something offensive, it’s just he’s offended other people before so his reputation sticks with him along with the power of expectation to make some of his not-so-offensive posts seem more of a big deal than they actually are. I mean, come on, you’re not going to remember the unoffensive ones as much as the offensive ones.
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petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

smiley


I believed in God for years and years. He did nothing. Something you will not accept.

Could he make us the perfect being if he loves us so much? He wants us to be as happy as possible. He could make us perfect, and this entire planet perfect. If the world does get fucked up, hell god could fix it with the blink of an eye.

Why god want us to think His creations? reword please. The confusion shards are swimming.

If God does not like Satan, he can eliminate him, can’t he? Or is your God not as powerful as you wish to think?


(everything I am posting is mostly Theistic opinion, not my own, so don’t take this as being what I believe)

Yeah, well that’s true, the old God’s been a bit lazy these days. However, you must remember that Theists have an explanation for this, judgement day, to be followed up by a utopian Earth.

Should he fix the world and destory Satan? He’s being fair to Satan and seeing if the world would be better without a God to demonstrate to his creations that God’s way of ruling the world is the real one, he’s also giving people a choice about whether they want to folow God or not by doing this. Also note, a God may not want to interfere, he may simply want to sit back and watch.
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Cid wrote: Yeah, I didn’t say anything about you and I’m certainly not defending anybody. Just simply stating why people don’t like Gplex.

You hate me because I wont give religion the respect it doesnt deserve.
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Gplex wrote:
Cid wrote: Yeah, I didn’t say anything about you and I’m certainly not defending anybody. Just simply stating why people don’t like Gplex.

You hate me because I wont give religion the respect it doesnt deserve.


Wrong, I hate you because you disrespect it. I don’t give a shit whether you respect it or not, but disrespecting it is what makes you an incompetent asshole.
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Cid wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Cid wrote: Yeah, I didn’t say anything about you and I’m certainly not defending anybody. Just simply stating why people don’t like Gplex.

You hate me because I wont give religion the respect it doesnt deserve.


Wrong, I hate you because you disrespect it. I don’t give a shit whether you respect it or not, but disrespecting it is what makes you an incompetent asshole.

So because I dont agree with the religious teachings, I somehow become a incompetent asshole, wow are you a scientologist?
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Gplex wrote:
So because I dont agree with the religious teachings, I somehow become a incompetent asshole, wow are you a scientologist?


Damn you are one stupid human being. Let’s review what I said.

Wrong, I hate you because you disrespect it. I don’t give a shit whether you respect it or not, but disrespecting it is what makes you an incompetent asshole.


Read it, seriously.

I said I didn’t give a shit whether you respected it or not. That means you can believe what ever you want. But openly criticizing and demeaning those who do believe is wrong. That’s why you’re an asshole and the fact that you fail to understand anything anybody says is why you’re incompetent.
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You don’t believe there is a God or a God-like being? Well, to each their own.
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Cid wrote:
Gplex wrote:
So because I dont agree with the religious teachings, I somehow become a incompetent asshole, wow are you a scientologist?


Damn you are one stupid human being. Let’s review what I said.

Wrong, I hate you because you disrespect it. I don’t give a shit whether you respect it or not, but disrespecting it is what makes you an incompetent asshole.


Read it, seriously.

I said I didn’t give a shit whether you respected it or not. That means you can believe what ever you want. But openly criticizing and demeaning those who do believe is wrong. That’s why you’re an asshole and the fact that you fail to understand anything anybody says is why you’re incompetent.

Have you read any of my post before? I state what is wrong with that belief, I show how it is incompatible with reality, and then people like cid say that I am disrespecting that belief, so am I incompetent for avoiding his strawman? I think not.
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Rapture wrote: You don’t believe there is a God or a God-like being? Well, to each their own.

I believe their are god like beings, but they claims that most people make about their god of their religion, is usually complete lies.
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Gplex wrote:
Cid wrote:
Gplex wrote:
So because I dont agree with the religious teachings, I somehow become a incompetent asshole, wow are you a scientologist?


Damn you are one stupid human being. Let’s review what I said.

Wrong, I hate you because you disrespect it. I don’t give a shit whether you respect it or not, but disrespecting it is what makes you an incompetent asshole.


Read it, seriously.

I said I didn’t give a shit whether you respected it or not. That means you can believe what ever you want. But openly criticizing and demeaning those who do believe is wrong. That’s why you’re an asshole and the fact that you fail to understand anything anybody says is why you’re incompetent.

Have you read any of my post before? I state what is wrong with that belief, I show how it is incompatible with reality, and then people like cid say that I am disrespecting that belief, so am I incompetent for avoiding his strawman? I think not.


You’re incompetent for not listening to what you’re being told. Just like right now. I told you why I didn’t like you and you’re completely twisting it into something it never was.
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Sean of the Living wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

smiley


I believed in God for years and years. He did nothing. Something you will not accept.

Could he make us the perfect being if he loves us so much? He wants us to be as happy as possible. He could make us perfect, and this entire planet perfect. If the world does get fucked up, hell god could fix it with the blink of an eye.

Why god want us to think His creations? reword please. The confusion shards are swimming.

If God does not like Satan, he can eliminate him, can’t he? Or is your God not as powerful as you wish to think?


(everything I am posting is mostly Theistic opinion, not my own, so don’t take this as being what I believe)

Yeah, well that’s true, the old God’s been a bit lazy these days. However, you must remember that Theists have an explanation for this, judgement day, to be followed up by a utopian Earth.

Should he fix the world and destory Satan? He’s being fair to Satan and seeing if the world would be better without a God to demonstrate to his creations that God’s way of ruling the world is the real one, he’s also giving people a choice about whether they want to folow God or not by doing this. Also note, a God may not want to interfere, he may simply want to sit back and watch.


But doesn’t God want this world to be perfect, and us to be as peaceful as possible, and as happy as possible? I think God, being the eternal and all-powerful being he is would know that the world would turn into a shit-hole without him. God wants us to follow him, so without even really thinking, he could make us all believe in him.

As for your last point, DING DING! I believe that if there is a God, that is correct. We are just entertainment figures of his. He is having fun watching us kill each other.

As for me and the “You are a retard” thing, I seriously do not remember ever saying anything like that.
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petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

smiley


I believed in God for years and years. He did nothing. Something you will not accept.

Could he make us the perfect being if he loves us so much? He wants us to be as happy as possible. He could make us perfect, and this entire planet perfect. If the world does get fucked up, hell god could fix it with the blink of an eye.

Why god want us to think His creations? reword please. The confusion shards are swimming.

If God does not like Satan, he can eliminate him, can’t he? Or is your God not as powerful as you wish to think?


Before God create Adam, Satan was the best amongs the angels... but When God create Adam(Human), And told to all His creations to Bow to Adam... All angels and creations bow except Satan... Coz he think he is better than Adam then God punish him by cursing him... and Satan said I will tempt human to agaiants you from front, back, left and right...

Let say about this... I am your parent and I’m giving a room for someone before you but they ruin it and almost destroy it but then I fixed it... the I give it to you for you to take care but ruin it too and even try to againts the me...

do you think I will forgive you coz of you ruin your room or I will punish you for you to go againts me...??? I will forgive you if you ruin your room and if your try to fix it... but if you go againts me... there is no way for you to survive unless you beg for forgiven... simple if you open your mind...

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petrofsky wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

smiley


I believed in God for years and years. He did nothing. Something you will not accept.

Could he make us the perfect being if he loves us so much? He wants us to be as happy as possible. He could make us perfect, and this entire planet perfect. If the world does get fucked up, hell god could fix it with the blink of an eye.

Why god want us to think His creations? reword please. The confusion shards are swimming.

If God does not like Satan, he can eliminate him, can’t he? Or is your God not as powerful as you wish to think?


(everything I am posting is mostly Theistic opinion, not my own, so don’t take this as being what I believe)

Yeah, well that’s true, the old God’s been a bit lazy these days. However, you must remember that Theists have an explanation for this, judgement day, to be followed up by a utopian Earth.

Should he fix the world and destory Satan? He’s being fair to Satan and seeing if the world would be better without a God to demonstrate to his creations that God’s way of ruling the world is the real one, he’s also giving people a choice about whether they want to folow God or not by doing this. Also note, a God may not want to interfere, he may simply want to sit back and watch.


But doesn’t God want this world to be perfect, and us to be as peaceful as possible, and as happy as possible? I think God, being the eternal and all-powerful being he is would know that the world would turn into a shit-hole without him. God wants us to follow him, so without even really thinking, he could make us all believe in him.

As for your last point, DING DING! I believe that if there is a God, that is correct. We are just entertainment figures of his. He is having fun watching us kill each other.

As for me and the “You are a retard” thing, I seriously do not remember ever saying anything like that.


Thats why rulez is exist... thats why God give us mind to act like human not like animals...
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Ya sure about that Itachi? I’m pretty sure rape, killing, intolerance, and terrorism are not above animals.
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petrofsky wrote:
Rapture wrote: For several reasons, but I’m just going to sit back and watch for now.


Go right on ahead.


Oh he won’t. Nervin is the king of nothingness haha. He says something strong but can’t back it up so he nonchalantly beats around the bush. Best just to ignore him.
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petrofsky wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote: Itachi has recently been attacking me for my Nihilistic beliefs and thinks I am in denial. Really, only recently (a year or less ago) I am no longer in denial. And what was I in denial from? That God does not exist, Religion is hate, and the idea of God is slavery.

Why do I believe in these ideas you ask?

My story is after a long chain of events of stress and depression throughout my life. Eventually I came to the idea God does not exist. I became in denial of this and tried to get tighter with my religion (Judaism) so I went to synagogue more often. I read verses from the Torah. I even read other religious books to feel more connected. I read the Bible, and some of the Qu’ran. As I read these books I found a strong amount of hypocrisy throughout. I found a sense of hate from this so called “loving God." This loving God of ours tells us to kill our own children? Kill people that do not believe the same ideas you have? To hate the African Americans? To enslave people that are different? And even though these things were said, God said to never commit murder, and to respect others. I find that to be bullshit.

Also comes the idea, why did God not make everything perfect?

God supposedly has this power to make everything perfect? Why can’t he use it? He loves each and every one of us, yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?


Did I tell this once...???

God will help us with many ways... something that you will never accept...

if god created us with perfect form perhaps like superman there will be more destruction on earth..... bullets can kill us but still we cause more damage to this world... but if bullets cant kill us what will happen then...???


why god want us to think His creations...??? for ut to know our limitations... for us to know that God can create everything... Satan know directly what God can do but he still againts Him...

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I believed in God for years and years. He did nothing. Something you will not accept.

Could he make us the perfect being if he loves us so much? He wants us to be as happy as possible. He could make us perfect, and this entire planet perfect. If the world does get fucked up, hell god could fix it with the blink of an eye.

Why god want us to think His creations? reword please. The confusion shards are swimming.

If God does not like Satan, he can eliminate him, can’t he? Or is your God not as powerful as you wish to think?


(everything I am posting is mostly Theistic opinion, not my own, so don’t take this as being what I believe)

Yeah, well that’s true, the old God’s been a bit lazy these days. However, you must remember that Theists have an explanation for this, judgement day, to be followed up by a utopian Earth.

Should he fix the world and destory Satan? He’s being fair to Satan and seeing if the world would be better without a God to demonstrate to his creations that God’s way of ruling the world is the real one, he’s also giving people a choice about whether they want to folow God or not by doing this. Also note, a God may not want to interfere, he may simply want to sit back and watch.


But doesn’t God want this world to be perfect, and us to be as peaceful as possible, and as happy as possible? I think God, being the eternal and all-powerful being he is would know that the world would turn into a shit-hole without him. God wants us to follow him, so without even really thinking, he could make us all believe in him.

As for your last point, DING DING! I believe that if there is a God, that is correct. We are just entertainment figures of his. He is having fun watching us kill each other.

As for me and the “You are a retard” thing, I seriously do not remember ever saying anything like that.


I’m just saying a diety doesn’t have to be good, he could be evil or neutral, and there is a big difference between letting something happen and causing it. He’s not making us kill each other. But he’s not stepping in. That makes him neutral, not evil. Unless of course, the afterlife exists, in which case it doesn’t matter anyway.

You called me an “All round retard” on the “Nu Metal are bullshit” thread and you said “Fuck you asshole” the first time I said I hated Cannibal Corpse, but I forget which thread that was on. Kev360 was talking about Queen, and you had an avatar of a fiery humanoid face at the time, but’s that’s all I can remember.
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Cid wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Cid wrote:
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So because I dont agree with the religious teachings, I somehow become a incompetent asshole, wow are you a scientologist?


Damn you are one stupid human being. Let’s review what I said.

Wrong, I hate you because you disrespect it. I don’t give a shit whether you respect it or not, but disrespecting it is what makes you an incompetent asshole.


Read it, seriously.

I said I didn’t give a shit whether you respected it or not. That means you can believe what ever you want. But openly criticizing and demeaning those who do believe is wrong. That’s why you’re an asshole and the fact that you fail to understand anything anybody says is why you’re incompetent.

Have you read any of my post before? I state what is wrong with that belief, I show how it is incompatible with reality, and then people like cid say that I am disrespecting that belief, so am I incompetent for avoiding his strawman? I think not.


You’re incompetent for not listening to what you’re being told. Just like right now. I told you why I didn’t like you and you’re completely twisting it into something it never was.

Yet you still have yet to quote me, you just make alot of Ad Hominid arguments, I quoted u a few times even in the quote above you still do these types of attacks....
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