| 15 Jun 2008 08:31 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
  | | | | 15 Jun 2008 08:32 pm |
Banned Rep: 50 Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,740 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
prove please...
and oh atheist fucking with girls on the street is humanity while Qur’an stated that we man must marry her first...??? so is that sentence making us animals... or fucking on the street is animal...???
At least in our culture women actually have the choice of marrying someone instead of having forced/arranged marriage and then being forced to have sex with their husbands whether they like it or not, which of course is considered rape. And tell me if I’m wrong, but is the woman even allowed to leave you without your consent?
2:223 Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
In other words, have sex with your woman whenever and as often as you want.
4:24 And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise.
In other words, You can’t have sex with married women... unless they are slaves obtained in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like).
You know very well that Muhammad killed people who did not share his faith and that the Qur’an still teaches that. We all know that. Islam is the religion of submission, you’re religion wants to conquer the world. How would I know you ask? Well it may just be the verses that say it is ok to kill non-believers, or maybe the continuous acts of Muslims holding up posters that say “Islam will conquer the world” and “behead those who insult Islam”.
Of course I’m not going to ignore the massive killings of Christians, Buddhists, atheists, Jews, and everyone is general who is not a Muslim. It’s called genocide, and it was attempted. Here is a fun fact: Islam has killed MANY more people than Hitler. Ridiculously more people, even though Hitler had 20th century technology when the Muslims didn’t. Hitler killed about 11 million people, and Islam throughout the last 1400 years has killed 270 million non-believers of Islam, that’s 24 times as many people as Hitler killed. I mean c’mon, Islam started right from the beginning to kill non-believers. Oh, and correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Muhammad prophesize that Islam will conquer Rome? And aren’t Muslims already trying to do that, along with Europe and the Americas?
Tell you what. I’m not trying to be arrogant, but this feels a bit like an overkill. So what I will do is make a topic to debate this. I will present my evidence that Islam wants to conquer the world, and you present your evidence that it doesn’t. Fair enough?
To fuck with them we must marry them... one, two, three or four... if you cant balance them all then marry them just one...
Islam have this world once... and it will happen again... after that Atheist will have this world... in the end... the jugdement day will happen to you...
http://www.famousmuslims.com/Saladin%20Ayyubi.htm
Islam never ruled the world and it never will, no matter how many people are Muslims there will always be reasonable people smart enough to see beyond your illusion and brave enough to not give into terrorist threats.
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
prove please...
and oh atheist fucking with girls on the street is humanity while Qur’an stated that we man must marry her first...??? so is that sentence making us animals... or fucking on the street is animal...???
At least in our culture women actually have the choice of marrying someone instead of having forced/arranged marriage and then being forced to have sex with their husbands whether they like it or not, which of course is considered rape. And tell me if I’m wrong, but is the woman even allowed to leave you without your consent?
2:223 Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
In other words, have sex with your woman whenever and as often as you want.
4:24 And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom ye seek content (by marrying them), give unto them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what ye do by mutual agreement after the duty (hath been done). Lo! Allah is ever Knower, Wise.
In other words, You can’t have sex with married women... unless they are slaves obtained in war (with whom you may rape or do whatever you like).
You know very well that Muhammad killed people who did not share his faith and that the Qur’an still teaches that. We all know that. Islam is the religion of submission, you’re religion wants to conquer the world. How would I know you ask? Well it may just be the verses that say it is ok to kill non-believers, or maybe the continuous acts of Muslims holding up posters that say “Islam will conquer the world” and “behead those who insult Islam”.
Of course I’m not going to ignore the massive killings of Christians, Buddhists, atheists, Jews, and everyone is general who is not a Muslim. It’s called genocide, and it was attempted. Here is a fun fact: Islam has killed MANY more people than Hitler. Ridiculously more people, even though Hitler had 20th century technology when the Muslims didn’t. Hitler killed about 11 million people, and Islam throughout the last 1400 years has killed 270 million non-believers of Islam, that’s 24 times as many people as Hitler killed. I mean c’mon, Islam started right from the beginning to kill non-believers. Oh, and correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Muhammad prophesize that Islam will conquer Rome? And aren’t Muslims already trying to do that, along with Europe and the Americas?
Tell you what. I’m not trying to be arrogant, but this feels a bit like an overkill. So what I will do is make a topic to debate this. I will present my evidence that Islam wants to conquer the world, and you present your evidence that it doesn’t. Fair enough?
To fuck with them we must marry them... one, two, three or four... if you cant balance them all then marry them just one...
Islam have this world once... and it will happen again... after that Atheist will have this world... in the end... the jugdement day will happen to you...
http://www.famousmuslims.com/Saladin%20Ayyubi.htm
Islam never ruled the world and it never will, no matter how many people are Muslims there will always be reasonable people smart enough to see beyond your illusion and brave enough to not give into terrorist threats.
If we moslems go againts crimes considered as terrorist... defending our self you consider us as terrorist... Bush aint terrorist, Ariel Sharon aint terrorist, Hitler aint terrorist... and oh USA troops in vietnam aint terrorist...
Hiroshima and Nagasaki... America is such a hero country... say that to more than 100.000 people who died coz of that atomic bombs...
 
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 16 Jun 2008 12:50 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 16 Jun 2008 02:41 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
| | | 16 Jun 2008 02:43 am |
The Dark Rep: 61 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,810 ONLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
Just to throw something out there. How would we know what perfect is though? I mean, sure perfect is without flaws but what is a perfect world?
Chaos Theory Made | | | 16 Jun 2008 02:49 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
Just to throw something out there. How would we know what perfect is though? I mean, sure perfect is without flaws but what is a perfect world?
Absolutely nothing wrong. No poverty, no racism, no unhappiness, etc. God has the power to eliminate that, doesn’t he?
| | | 16 Jun 2008 02:52 am |
The Dark Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,810 ONLINE | petrofsky wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
Just to throw something out there. How would we know what perfect is though? I mean, sure perfect is without flaws but what is a perfect world?
Absolutely nothing wrong. No poverty, no racism, no unhappiness, etc. God has the power to eliminate that, doesn’t he?
I would think so. Or perhaps God is disabled. Unable to help his creations that he wants nothing but the best for. Of course...This 'God' if he exists is supposed to be omnipotent and if he is an all loving god, why not take away racism,poverty,etc?
Chaos Theory MadeLast edited 16 Jun 2008 02:54 am by ChibiDiscoDhaos | | | 16 Jun 2008 03:39 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 28 Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1,357 OFFLINE | Just throwin this out there. What if MY idea of perfect involves some of the negative? What if I want to feel pain and sadness every now and then? Why do I want this? Because it balances the positives. It makes the good even better. And I need to be reminded of that pain every now and then so I don’t lose sight of how good things can be.
If Heaven were a place where nothing “bad” could ever happen, I can only imagine being utterly bored for the rest of eternity. I need there to be at least SOME danger to keep things interesting. I think heaven in general is just a bad idea. It’s worse that people don’t stop and actually think about what their “reward” actually is...
I suppose damnation being an alternative is a common response to this. However, personally, If I died and found myself standing before god and he was about to send me to hell for not believing in him, I’d tell him he can go fuck himself, for I’ve lived my life as honestly as I could, helped others, and have been generally kind and considerate person. And then I’d ask him who he thinks he is to damn me to eternal suffering for not believing in him when he has offered me NO REASON, NOT ONE, for him to even NEED to exist. Let alone ever let me know that he does. It’s not my fault that my parents didn’t indoctrinate me into a state of blind absolute-certainty for his existence in the face of zero evidence. ---
 Last edited 16 Jun 2008 10:01 am by Khorib | | | 16 Jun 2008 08:15 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 16 Jun 2008 10:23 pm |
petrofsky nli Guest | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH. | | | 16 Jun 2008 10:58 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 26 Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 3,105 OFFLINE | petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
Everyday I think people can’t get any more stupid everyday I’m proven wrong.
 | | | 16 Jun 2008 10:58 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 69 Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,780 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted. | | | 16 Jun 2008 11:09 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
| | | 16 Jun 2008 11:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | Rapture wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
| | | 16 Jun 2008 11:11 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 26Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 3,105 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
Everyday I think people can’t get any more stupid everyday I’m proven wrong.
Last edited 16 Jun 2008 11:15 pm by The Dahaka | | | 16 Jun 2008 11:22 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
Exactly. This is one of the reasons I do not believe in God. If God wanted to make us, and for us to be happy, couldn’t he just make us perfect? What was the point of God creating us in the first place?
| | | 16 Jun 2008 11:23 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 26Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 3,105 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
Exactly. This is one of the reasons I do not believe in God. If God wanted to make us, and for us to be happy, couldn’t he just make us perfect? What was the point of God creating us in the first place?
Tis a very good question. Maybe it’s all a test. Maybe we are being tested by God. Beliefs might not have anything to do with it.
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
Everyday I think people can’t get any more stupid everyday I’m proven wrong.
| | | 16 Jun 2008 11:44 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
The Dahaka wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
Exactly. This is one of the reasons I do not believe in God. If God wanted to make us, and for us to be happy, couldn’t he just make us perfect? What was the point of God creating us in the first place?
Tis a very good question. Maybe it’s all a test. Maybe we are being tested by God. Beliefs might not have anything to do with it.
Lol, it seems like a cluster fuck, because I don’t know why God would want to test us if he already knows our capabilities since he created us.
Oh, btw, Revenge of the Nerds is one of my favorite movies, lol. Booger is my favorite character also.
| | | 16 Jun 2008 11:46 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 69Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,780 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Rapture wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us. Last edited 16 Jun 2008 11:46 pm by NEREVAR117 | | |
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