Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
Exactly. This is one of the reasons I do not believe in God. If God wanted to make us, and for us to be happy, couldn’t he just make us perfect? What was the point of God creating us in the first place?
Tis a very good question. Maybe it’s all a test. Maybe we are being tested by God. Beliefs might not have anything to do with it.
Lol, it seems like a cluster fuck, because I don’t know why God would want to test us if he already knows our capabilities since he created us.
Oh, btw, Revenge of the Nerds is one of my favorite movies, lol. Booger is my favorite character also.
Booger fucking owns. Other than that, you never know. It all could be a test. And yeah, it does seem like a cluster fuck, but it’s been on my mind for awhile. He could be testing us, to see if we are worthy of going to Heaven, or going to Hell. IMO, it’s not about what you believe in, just about what kind of person you are.
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1outofDAinfinite wrote:
Everyday I think people can’t get any more stupid everyday I’m proven wrong.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
Exactly. This is one of the reasons I do not believe in God. If God wanted to make us, and for us to be happy, couldn’t he just make us perfect? What was the point of God creating us in the first place?
Tis a very good question. Maybe it’s all a test. Maybe we are being tested by God. Beliefs might not have anything to do with it.
Lol, it seems like a cluster fuck, because I don’t know why God would want to test us if he already knows our capabilities since he created us.
Oh, btw, Revenge of the Nerds is one of my favorite movies, lol. Booger is my favorite character also.
Booger fucking owns. Other than that, you never know. It all could be a test. And yeah, it does seem like a cluster fuck, but it’s been on my mind for awhile. He could be testing us, to see if we are worthy of going to Heaven, or going to Hell. IMO, it’s not about what you believe in, just about what kind of person you are.
But then God knows everything about us, so he should know from the start.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
He create one and named it as Heaven...
Still not answering my question. He is ruling OUR world. Why can’t he make it perfect?
He can... and He called those creatures Angels... He create us to rulez this world... for you to see who is the better human on this world and for you to see who is go againts Him...
Once again, you are not answering my question. Why can’t God make OUR world perfect???? I am not talking about heaven or hell, I am talking about here, EARTH.
Well, the thing is, do we need our world to be perfect? As we know, nothing is perfect, and never has been. God rules over Heaven. But has there been any suggestion that he rules earth? I mean he created earth, but that does not mean that he rules it. We decide what happens to us. God is not what’s wrong with the world. We are. We are the cause of what goes on in the world. We cause our own problems, and rewards.
Can’t God fix them for us though? Why couldn’t he make us so we could not make mistakes?
Then what would the point of creating humans be if he was going to fix our own mistakes? We could be mistakes that God has not fixed. Hell, for all I know, he could wipe us off of the face of the galaxy if he wanted to. Why do you think that God didn’t intervene when Adam and Eve took a bite of the Forbidden Fruit?
Exactly. This is one of the reasons I do not believe in God. If God wanted to make us, and for us to be happy, couldn’t he just make us perfect? What was the point of God creating us in the first place?
Tis a very good question. Maybe it’s all a test. Maybe we are being tested by God. Beliefs might not have anything to do with it.
Lol, it seems like a cluster fuck, because I don’t know why God would want to test us if he already knows our capabilities since he created us.
Oh, btw, Revenge of the Nerds is one of my favorite movies, lol. Booger is my favorite character also.
Booger fucking owns. Other than that, you never know. It all could be a test. And yeah, it does seem like a cluster fuck, but it’s been on my mind for awhile. He could be testing us, to see if we are worthy of going to Heaven, or going to Hell. IMO, it’s not about what you believe in, just about what kind of person you are.
But then God knows everything about us, so he should know from the start.
DAMN THIS IS GETTING CONFUSING.
He does methinks. He watched as Adam and Eve ate the Forbidden Fruit. It’s possible. He could be watching us right now, knowing what’s exactly on our minds.
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1outofDAinfinite wrote:
Everyday I think people can’t get any more stupid everyday I’m proven wrong.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us.
Isn’t it possible that he’d rather have humanity itself try to achieve happiness on it’s own rather than just himself giving it to us? If God made everything perfect we would have very little to work for. In life most civilizations and people are working towards a better tomorrow. We are trying to achieve a perfect life. And we are working extrememly hard to achieve this goal too. Of course it’ll be most likely impossible to achieve but the human race still works hard to achieve it. If God was to make everything in life perfect humans wouldn’t have to worry about anything or try to work for anything. Everything and everyone would love each other and there would be no plagues or famines. Everything would be perfect.
My main point is, mabye God just wants to see us try to achieve a better world on our own. Mabye he doesn’t want to give us everything. Mabye he wants us to try and achieve our own goals on our own.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us.
Isn’t it possible that he’d rather have humanity itself try to achieve happiness on it’s own rather than just himself giving it to us? If God made everything perfect we would have very little to work for. In life most civilizations and people are working towards a better tomorrow. We are trying to achieve a perfect life. And we are working extrememly hard to achieve this goal too. Of course it’ll be most likely impossible to achieve but the human race still works hard to achieve it. If God was to make everything in life perfect humans wouldn’t have to worry about anything or try to work for anything. Everything and everyone would love each other and there would be no plagues or famines. Everything would be perfect.
My main point is, mabye God just wants to see us try to achieve a better world on our own. Mabye he doesn’t want to give us everything. Mabye he wants us to try and achieve our own goals on our own.
Well... at least he’s already knows if we’ll succeed or not.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us.
Isn’t it possible that he’d rather have humanity itself try to achieve happiness on it’s own rather than just himself giving it to us? If God made everything perfect we would have very little to work for. In life most civilizations and people are working towards a better tomorrow. We are trying to achieve a perfect life. And we are working extrememly hard to achieve this goal too. Of course it’ll be most likely impossible to achieve but the human race still works hard to achieve it. If God was to make everything in life perfect humans wouldn’t have to worry about anything or try to work for anything. Everything and everyone would love each other and there would be no plagues or famines. Everything would be perfect.
My main point is, mabye God just wants to see us try to achieve a better world on our own. Mabye he doesn’t want to give us everything. Mabye he wants us to try and achieve our own goals on our own.
Well... at least he’s already knows if we’ll succeed or not.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us.
Isn’t it possible that he’d rather have humanity itself try to achieve happiness on it’s own rather than just himself giving it to us? If God made everything perfect we would have very little to work for. In life most civilizations and people are working towards a better tomorrow. We are trying to achieve a perfect life. And we are working extrememly hard to achieve this goal too. Of course it’ll be most likely impossible to achieve but the human race still works hard to achieve it. If God was to make everything in life perfect humans wouldn’t have to worry about anything or try to work for anything. Everything and everyone would love each other and there would be no plagues or famines. Everything would be perfect.
My main point is, mabye God just wants to see us try to achieve a better world on our own. Mabye he doesn’t want to give us everything. Mabye he wants us to try and achieve our own goals on our own.
Well... at least he’s already knows if we’ll succeed or not.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us.
Isn’t it possible that he’d rather have humanity itself try to achieve happiness on it’s own rather than just himself giving it to us? If God made everything perfect we would have very little to work for. In life most civilizations and people are working towards a better tomorrow. We are trying to achieve a perfect life. And we are working extrememly hard to achieve this goal too. Of course it’ll be most likely impossible to achieve but the human race still works hard to achieve it. If God was to make everything in life perfect humans wouldn’t have to worry about anything or try to work for anything. Everything and everyone would love each other and there would be no plagues or famines. Everything would be perfect.
My main point is, mabye God just wants to see us try to achieve a better world on our own. Mabye he doesn’t want to give us everything. Mabye he wants us to try and achieve our own goals on our own.
Well... at least he’s already knows if we’ll succeed or not.
If he is all knowing, then yes.
Doesn’t he have to be to qualify as God???
I think so, but i’ve heard of some religions that say God isn’t all knowing and that he is only all powerful. However i’m not to sure which religions believe this.
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
God is PERFECT... Human and others not perfect...
even with limitations some people say that they are a god...
You are not answering my question. Yes, God is perfect. He rules the world. Can’t he make the world absolutely perfect with no downsides whatsoever? Wh cant he do that?
What if he doesn’t want too. What if the term perfection is easily twisted.
Why wouldn’t he want to? We are God’s children aren’t we? Doesn’t he want us to be as happy as we can?
He’s god, he’s the boss. He doesn’t have to care about us, he didn’t have to create us. And so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have to take care of us.
Isn’t it possible that he’d rather have humanity itself try to achieve happiness on it’s own rather than just himself giving it to us? If God made everything perfect we would have very little to work for. In life most civilizations and people are working towards a better tomorrow. We are trying to achieve a perfect life. And we are working extrememly hard to achieve this goal too. Of course it’ll be most likely impossible to achieve but the human race still works hard to achieve it. If God was to make everything in life perfect humans wouldn’t have to worry about anything or try to work for anything. Everything and everyone would love each other and there would be no plagues or famines. Everything would be perfect.
My main point is, mabye God just wants to see us try to achieve a better world on our own. Mabye he doesn’t want to give us everything. Mabye he wants us to try and achieve our own goals on our own.
He create this one and He called it heaven...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster —
Wait a minute... your telling me god, who apparently purposely created an imperfect race, wants us to be perfect? Even if that wasn’t impossible, what would be the point of it?
Allow me to play devil’s advocate for a moment (oh divine irony).
“God is slavery.” Could you please back this up a little more? I cannot see any statements to correlate with it.
I very much agree with the contradictions and hypocrisy in the holy books.
“yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated “satan” but no. God won’t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?”
No one can claim to know what God wants. I view the existence of these things as they embodiment of free will and the choices people have the freedom of making rather than being born into a ‘perfect’ world where you don’t realize how good it is because there is no ‘bad’ or ‘evil’ to compare it to.
I think you are putting words into God’s mouth. Something religion tends to do as well. This makes you no better than the other hate-preachers.
ramunematt wrote:
Wait a minute... your telling me god, who apparently purposely created an imperfect race, wants us to be perfect? Even if that wasn’t impossible, what would be the point of it?
Since there is no point, there would be no creation of human beings. But if we were created for a reason, and God loved us, he would make the world perfect. Does anyone else see the conflict here?
Oranje wrote:
Allow me to play devil�s advocate for a moment (oh divine irony).
�God is slavery.� Could you please back this up a little more? I cannot see any statements to correlate with it.
I very much agree with the contradictions and hypocrisy in the holy books.
�yet he tries to have fun be throwing war and hate into the game. He does not want to help our problems, he wants sin in this world. He could have eliminated sin, but no. God could have eliminated �satan� but no. God won�t help us even though he can do whatever he wants without even really thinking of it. Where is God in these hard times?�
No one can claim to know what God wants. I view the existence of these things as they embodiment of free will and the choices people have the freedom of making rather than being born into a �perfect� world where you don�t realize how good it is because there is no �bad� or �evil� to compare it to.
I think you are putting words into God�s mouth. Something religion tends to do as well. This makes you no better than the other hate-preachers.
It was not “God” is Slavery, it is “religion” is slavery. What I mean by that is that religion controls our actions and our thoughts because of the fear of “hell."
No one knows what God wants. That is the biggest problem with religion. I am looking at the God, however, that religion preaches about. And so what if there is no evil to compare it to? God could simply put the idea of what real evil is into our minds and compare what we have to what evil is.
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