It might not have necessarily been a “time didn’t exist” or “time went forever back” state. It could be, for example, totally random such as; back, forward, stop, back, back back, forward, or it could be to time as an unbroken circle is to the spacial dimensions, a loop that keeps replaying itself over and over and always will replay itself over and over.
Rapture wrote:
So just because there is no end and no beginning, then God (a being capable of anything, mind you) cannot create the Earth?
I’m not the only one who sees how silly this is, right?
Alright, so we have a god that has been around forever. He made the earth. But he has been around forever, so the time keeps going back and back and back. Really, when you think about it, he never would have reached the particular point in time where he created earth. What was he doing that entire time?
But time can’t be viewed infinitely in the negative direction mainly because its already occurred. It is physically impossible in the same dimension to reach a certain point of time if it is infinite in both directions. But because we are in that point of time, the present, then there must have been a beginning, at least by human understanding. Now there might be things about time we don’t understand but by today’s logic, that’s it.
Zucas wrote:
But time can’t be viewed infinitely in the negative direction mainly because its already occurred. It is physically impossible in the same dimension to reach a certain point of time if it is infinite in both directions. But because we are in that point of time, the present, then there must have been a beginning, at least by human understanding. Now there might be things about time we don’t understand but by today’s logic, that’s it.
Yeah, but if God is a being that had no beginning, wouldnt that negative end go on forever and ever?
In order for time to be negative there would have to be a starting point. Eternity has no starting or ending point, so it has no directions and there are no negatives to it. In fact, I’m not even sure if it has positives to it. It may be neutral.
Zucas wrote:
But time can’t be viewed infinitely in the negative direction mainly because its already occurred. It is physically impossible in the same dimension to reach a certain point of time if it is infinite in both directions. But because we are in that point of time, the present, then there must have been a beginning, at least by human understanding. Now there might be things about time we don’t understand but by today’s logic, that’s it.
Yeah, but if God is a being that had no beginning, wouldnt that negative end go on forever and ever?
If he had no beginning then he can’t exist by our logic. Of course we don’t fully understand. If something has no beginning then it never actually was.
The god the christians have made up, is impossible.
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Zucas wrote:
But time can’t be viewed infinitely in the negative direction mainly because its already occurred. It is physically impossible in the same dimension to reach a certain point of time if it is infinite in both directions. But because we are in that point of time, the present, then there must have been a beginning, at least by human understanding. Now there might be things about time we don’t understand but by today’s logic, that’s it.
Yeah, but if God is a being that had no beginning, wouldnt that negative end go on forever and ever?
If he had no beginning then he can’t exist by our logic. Of course we don’t fully understand. If something has no beginning then it never actually was.
Time has no beginning... We cant understand Him since it was beyond our imagination... we even cant see the current condition of andromeda galaxy but how come we can know the existance of god by His particles...???
He create Time and Space...
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Time had a beginning, otherwise we wouldn’t be here. I don’t think you understand what time really is. Without time movement is impossible, and god is no exception.
Zucas wrote:
But time can’t be viewed infinitely in the negative direction mainly because its already occurred. It is physically impossible in the same dimension to reach a certain point of time if it is infinite in both directions. But because we are in that point of time, the present, then there must have been a beginning, at least by human understanding. Now there might be things about time we don’t understand but by today’s logic, that’s it.
Yeah, but if God is a being that had no beginning, wouldnt that negative end go on forever and ever?
If he had no beginning then he can’t exist by our logic. Of course we don’t fully understand. If something has no beginning then it never actually was.
Time has no beginning... We cant understand Him since it was beyond our imagination... we even cant see the current condition of andromeda galaxy but how come we can know the existance of god by His particles...???
He create Time and Space...
God cannot function without time, or else time really just does not exist.
a. wrote:
you know if god isnt eternal then what caused whatever caused the universe? and what caused whatever caused that? and so forth.
like it or not there has to be something eternal.
This is a question that I think we have to be humble about. Why not just admit that we don’t know exactly how we got here instead of making up an answer like, “god did it”? What’s so hard about that?
Oh, and physical eternity is impossible because time had a beginning.
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
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