| 21 Jun 2008 10:29 pm |
Banned Rep: 50  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,740 ONLINE | Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
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| 21 Jun 2008 10:44 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31 Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
Winnar.
If God could disobey time, then that pretty much means that there is no such thing as time. If God was working before time existed, wouldn’t that mean there was some other form of time before time itself?
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| 15 Jul 2008 05:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 30 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,024 OFFLINE | There is actually a flaw in omnipotence. ---
Possibly the quote of the week.
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WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
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| 15 Jul 2008 05:35 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22 Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 1,281 OFFLINE | In my opinion. Time does not exist. It’s just a measurement we use to gague existance. ---
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| 15 Jul 2008 06:59 pm |
Scriptor of Alacritas Rep: 61 Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 16,346 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
As long as humans exist, God exists as well.
God existed before humans, also.
God did not exist before Humans, he was made up by men during the time of the Roman Empire to explain things, that fairly enough were unexplainable at that time. Now that we can explain things people still cling to God to try and explain the universe. Its kind of sad. But still I hold some respect for religion for its core values.
everyonebothersme wrote:
because you are an athiest, and you will go to Hell
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| 15 Jul 2008 08:36 pm |
Banned Rep: 50Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,740 ONLINE | Oranje wrote:
In my opinion. Time does not exist. It’s just a measurement we use to gague existance.
Without time there can be no space, and by extension gravity.
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| 15 Jul 2008 08:56 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
Winnar.
If God could disobey time, then that pretty much means that there is no such thing as time. If God was working before time existed, wouldn’t that mean there was some other form of time before time itself?
If god were created then he is not god but creature...
God could disobey time is yes... he controlling time...
Your mind cant reach something spiritual...
I know that you are nihilist...
 
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| 15 Jul 2008 09:50 pm |
Banned Rep: 50Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,740 ONLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
Winnar.
If God could disobey time, then that pretty much means that there is no such thing as time. If God was working before time existed, wouldn’t that mean there was some other form of time before time itself?
If god were created then he is not god but creature...
God could disobey time is yes... he controlling time...
Your mind cant reach something spiritual...
I know that you are nihilist...
No Itachi, god doesn’t control time... gravity does.
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| 15 Jul 2008 09:53 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
Winnar.
If God could disobey time, then that pretty much means that there is no such thing as time. If God was working before time existed, wouldn’t that mean there was some other form of time before time itself?
If god were created then he is not god but creature...
God could disobey time is yes... he controlling time...
Your mind cant reach something spiritual...
I know that you are nihilist...
No Itachi, god doesn’t control time... gravity does.
can you see gravity atheist...???
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| 15 Jul 2008 09:57 pm |
Regular Rep: 7Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 413 OFFLINE | can you see gravity atheist...???
You don’t need to see something for it to be there Itachi. I’m pretty sure that this logic applies to your god as well. | |
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| 15 Jul 2008 10:13 pm |
Regular Rep: 25 Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 660 ONLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
Winnar.
If God could disobey time, then that pretty much means that there is no such thing as time. If God was working before time existed, wouldn’t that mean there was some other form of time before time itself?
If god were created then he is not god but creature...
God could disobey time is yes... he controlling time...
Your mind cant reach something spiritual...
I know that you are nihilist...
No Itachi, god doesn’t control time... gravity does.
can you see gravity atheist...???
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| 15 Jul 2008 10:41 pm |
Regular Rep: 7Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 413 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
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| 16 Jul 2008 06:18 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35 Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,137 OFFLINE | petrofsky nli wrote:
Keep in mind this is just an idea, just how people who believe in God is an idea. It does not mean that I am right or wrong.
Okay, let’s say God’s life is a never ending line. and in the middle of this line is when God created the world.
Here is the point.
God never created the world.
Because the time before he got to that point is infinite, and never ending, he never would have reached the point of making the planet.
This was an idea I came up with, and I thought it was interesting.
ok ur really stupid and u dont know shit buddy
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| 16 Jul 2008 06:19 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 35Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,137 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
Winnar.
If God could disobey time, then that pretty much means that there is no such thing as time. If God was working before time existed, wouldn’t that mean there was some other form of time before time itself?
If god were created then he is not god but creature...
God could disobey time is yes... he controlling time...
Your mind cant reach something spiritual...
I know that you are nihilist...
No Itachi, god doesn’t control time... gravity does.
God will do whatever he wants to do... sending you to hell is one of them since your the most dickheaded atheist around
MORTIS, THE SMARTEST PERSON ON MOVIECODEC
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| 16 Jul 2008 06:35 am |
Regular Rep: 5 Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 147 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
can you see gravity
uh it’s a distortion, and actually yes we can. Einstein gave us a nice clear picture of light bending around the sun during a solar eclipse proving indisputably that gravity exists as the sun affected the photons enough to bend them around itself.
Here’s a link
Solar eclipse
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| 16 Jul 2008 01:33 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | Mortis wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Keep in mind this is just an idea, just how people who believe in God is an idea. It does not mean that I am right or wrong.
Okay, let’s say God’s life is a never ending line. and in the middle of this line is when God created the world.
Here is the point.
God never created the world.
Because the time before he got to that point is infinite, and never ending, he never would have reached the point of making the planet.
This was an idea I came up with, and I thought it was interesting.
ok ur really stupid and u dont know shit buddy
You obviously had no idea what I said, did you?
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| 16 Jul 2008 01:36 pm |
or just Red Rep: 72 Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16,991 OFFLINE | petrofsky nli wrote:
Keep in mind this is just an idea, just how people who believe in God is an idea. It does not mean that I am right or wrong.
Okay, let’s say God’s life is a never ending line. and in the middle of this line is when God created the world.
Here is the point.
God never created the world.
Because the time before he got to that point is infinite, and never ending, he never would have reached the point of making the planet.
This was an idea I came up with, and I thought it was interesting.
So going by your logic here...
Since numbers are infinite, then by your logic, any one number cannot exist since there are infinite numbers on either side of it.
But we know that this is not the case, so once again, God lives on.
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| 16 Jul 2008 01:44 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,248 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky nli wrote:
Keep in mind this is just an idea, just how people who believe in God is an idea. It does not mean that I am right or wrong.
Okay, let’s say God’s life is a never ending line. and in the middle of this line is when God created the world.
Here is the point.
God never created the world.
Because the time before he got to that point is infinite, and never ending, he never would have reached the point of making the planet.
This was an idea I came up with, and I thought it was interesting.
So going by your logic here...
Since numbers are infinite, then by your logic, any one number cannot exist since there are infinite numbers on either side of it.
But we know that this is not the case, so once again, God lives on.
Time DOES go on forever though.
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