| 17 Jul 2008 10:52 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 28  Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1,357 OFFLINE | Oranje wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Oranje wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Oranje wrote:
In my opinion. Time does not exist. It’s just a measurement we use to gague existance.
Without time there can be no space, and by extension gravity.
What I meant was tims is not finite. In my opinion there was no beginning and there will be no end. I was more pointing out the fact that man seems to always have to put a stamp, label or measurement on everything.
Well the thing is time IS finite, it had a beginning. If time was infinite then an infinite amount of time had to have passed before getting to this moment.
I can’t claim to be a scientist or a theorist. I was stating what I believe to be true. Time is just something that is. I don’t think anyone can claim it had a beginning or will have an end. Time is just a measurement of existance.
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| 27 Jul 2008 10:32 pm |
Str Guest | ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
OK, so if i kill someone, theyres never been a law against it? :P
I think you fail to understand what Omnipotent means. Time could be created by God. Humans cant understand a time before time, but an all powerful being could. A God could rewrite physics in ways we cant understand. You seem to be unable to grasp the concept, so it is best left alone. | |
| 28 Jul 2008 08:35 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | Str wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
OK, so if i kill someone, theyres never been a law against it? :P
I think you fail to understand what Omnipotent means. Time could be created by God. Humans cant understand a time before time, but an all powerful being could. A God could rewrite physics in ways we cant understand. You seem to be unable to grasp the concept, so it is best left alone.
If sciences cant reach another dimensions(djinn) but how come human can reach GOD level...???
 
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| 28 Jul 2008 09:11 pm |
Sean0931 Guest | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Str wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Strong wrote:
Well if god is omnipotent, he wouldn’t have to obey the laws of time as we know them, therefore the argument falls apart. interesting though
Here is the thing; laws cannot be broken. That’s why they are called laws. Hypothetically speaking, if you were able to do anything and you broke a law then guess what? It was never a law.
OK, so if i kill someone, theyres never been a law against it? :P
I think you fail to understand what Omnipotent means. Time could be created by God. Humans cant understand a time before time, but an all powerful being could. A God could rewrite physics in ways we cant understand. You seem to be unable to grasp the concept, so it is best left alone.
If sciences cant reach another dimensions(djinn) but how come human can reach GOD level...???
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| 29 Jul 2008 11:49 pm |
Regular Rep: 2  Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | ALL PEOPLE WE ALL NEED TO GET SAVED OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ REVULATION, THE LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE GOD IS AND WILL BRING ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM IN HEAVEN SO BE PREPARED!! ---
-And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.-Luke 4:8 | |
| 29 Jul 2008 11:51 pm |
Infinitus Rep: 35 Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | Does a God have to be bound to the laws of physics to exist? ---
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| 29 Jul 2008 11:53 pm |
Infinitus Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
ALL PEOPLE WE ALL NEED TO GET SAVED OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ REVULATION, THE LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE GOD IS AND WILL BRING ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM IN HEAVEN SO BE PREPARED!!
Put that gun to good use.
I stand out in a crowd!
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| 29 Jul 2008 11:54 pm |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | NAH NAH.....THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THAT GOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN GOD THATS IN HEAVEN ---
-And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.-Luke 4:8 | |
| 29 Jul 2008 11:55 pm |
Infinitus Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
NAH NAH.....THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THAT GOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN GOD THATS IN HEAVEN
Tell that to the older religions.
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| 29 Jul 2008 11:56 pm |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite wrote:
.E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
ALL PEOPLE WE ALL NEED TO GET SAVED OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ REVULATION, THE LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE GOD IS AND WILL BRING ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM IN HEAVEN SO BE PREPARED!!
Put that gun to good use.
THAT GUN DISPLAY IS JUST ON THERE CAUSE I THINK ITS COOL, NOT OF VIOLENCE OR KILLING JUST FOR COOL, BEFORE I WAS SAVED BY CHRIST LAST YEAR IVE BEEN ON THIS WEBSITE AND ITS BEEN ON HERE SINCE THEN....
-And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.-Luke 4:8 | |
| 29 Jul 2008 11:57 pm |
Infinitus Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
.E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
ALL PEOPLE WE ALL NEED TO GET SAVED OPEN YOUR BIBLE AND READ REVULATION, THE LAST BOOK OF THE BIBLE GOD IS AND WILL BRING ETERNAL LIFE WITH HIM IN HEAVEN SO BE PREPARED!!
Put that gun to good use.
THAT GUN DISPLAY IS JUST ON THERE CAUSE I THINK ITS COOL, NOT OF VIOLENCE OR KILLING JUST FOR COOL, BEFORE I WAS SAVED BY CHRIST LAST YEAR IVE BEEN ON THIS WEBSITE AND ITS BEEN ON HERE SINCE THEN....
Can you stop writing in all caps.
I stand out in a crowd!
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| 29 Jul 2008 11:58 pm |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | Yeah ---
-And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.-Luke 4:8 | |
| 29 Jul 2008 11:59 pm |
Infinitus Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
Yeah
Thankyou, now how did the lord help you?
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| 30 Jul 2008 12:03 am |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | Well I just thought I was goin' through some hard times and I decided to change my life around I first started praying and repenting then as the year went by He Blessed me and changed my ways and I felt better, reading the Bible and everything just keeping your faith in Him and being the person the Lord wants you to be, then He will transform you! ---
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| 30 Jul 2008 12:05 am |
Infinitus Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
Well I just thought I was goin' through some hard times and I decided to change my life around I first started praying and repenting then as the year went by He Blessed me and changed my ways and I felt better, reading the Bible and everything just keeping your faith in Him and being the person the Lord wants you to be, then He will transform you!
For God to help you must first help yourself.
Sorry buddy God didn’t help you he just gave you the opportunity to help yourself.
I stand out in a crowd!
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| 30 Jul 2008 12:08 am |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite wrote:
.E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
Well I just thought I was goin' through some hard times and I decided to change my life around I first started praying and repenting then as the year went by He Blessed me and changed my ways and I felt better, reading the Bible and everything just keeping your faith in Him and being the person the Lord wants you to be, then He will transform you!
For God to help you must first help yourself.
Sorry buddy God didn’t help you he just gave you the opportunity to help yourself.
nope...... its true He did give the opportunity to help myself and I did, then He did help me to transform and to be wise
-And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.-Luke 4:8Last edited 30 Jul 2008 12:10 am by .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID | |
| 30 Jul 2008 12:10 am |
Infinitus Rep: 35Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | .E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
.E_G-THA 2 FACED KID wrote:
Well I just thought I was goin' through some hard times and I decided to change my life around I first started praying and repenting then as the year went by He Blessed me and changed my ways and I felt better, reading the Bible and everything just keeping your faith in Him and being the person the Lord wants you to be, then He will transform you!
For God to help you must first help yourself.
Sorry buddy God didn’t help you he just gave you the opportunity to help yourself.
nope...... its true He did give the opportunity to help myself and I did, then He did help me to transform and to be wise
Read the bible clearly god no longer interferes with man.
I stand out in a crowd!
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| 30 Jul 2008 12:12 am |
Regular Rep: 2Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 902 OFFLINE | ??? give me a scripture on that ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 01:56 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 05 Aug 2008 Posts: 68 OFFLINE | petrofsky nli wrote:
Keep in mind this is just an idea, just how people who believe in God is an idea. It does not mean that I am right or wrong.
Okay, let’s say God’s life is a never ending line. and in the middle of this line is when God created the world.
Here is the point.
God never created the world.
Because the time before he got to that point is infinite, and never ending, he never would have reached the point of making the planet.
This was an idea I came up with, and I thought it was interesting.
B/C god is above time. You cannot put a time scale to god b/c he is not bound by time or other words not in it. The only way to messuer something that cannot be messured by time is to say it is infinite. Therfor when god created the universe there was a infident amount of what you would say time but there is no time there for you cannot say a infident amount of time only that it is infident. But since no time is passing everything god did would not seem infident but acctualy simutainious or instant b/c there is no time to messure what he is creating. | |
| 06 Aug 2008 11:37 pm |
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