Oranje wrote:
Not as if Khorib needs to know The Good Book cover to cover. He’s saying if/when he asks a believer a question regarding it they are ill-informed.
This can be the result of many things. They can be misreading a passage. Oblivious to the answer. Twisting the answer to what suits them.
Having grown up in a VERY religious bacground, I find the biggest turn-off can be hypocrisy which happened often in my expeirence.
Perhaps more on this later if the debate leads to that point.
Dude, somebody can only be defined as ll informed if the same person has read or is well versed in the said item...If I ask you about japanese language, you would expect me to have some knowledge on the said subject ...ne?
I think Oranje on this post was saying that, in the example of Japanese, you don’t need to fluently speak Japanese to know or understand its origins and history.
yes...ithink he got the point but wastrying not to say it.....
Oranje wrote:
“as to your question, it relates to your experience....many have found to their delight that when they believe, they recieve this person who went through the death...its beyond their concept because He is supposed to be dead but their He is, at the beginning and at certain times in their lives and situations He displays Himself...Now I am not talking about the deadness of religion, where if you eat something (or dont eat something), go to a particular city , wear particular clothing, do certain things like charity...this is something different. And let me say it again...all religions have been dealt the death blow (judged)..."
Am I to understand that you are saying 'He' only exists (if at all) in any one person’s mind due to their expeirence?
Of course not.....Thats why you have the Bible...It is the outward Word and testimony that should make all Christians one... if everything was simply related to individuals and their experiences, well the situation would be ........what we have today. Everybody manufacturing experiences that are said to be Divine issued....pitiful..all true experiences are balanced by this Bible....
Sean of the Living wrote:
I don’t like Richard Dawkins. It’s not that he speaks out for Atheism and Evolution or anything, I just think he’s a prick.
Why would you say he is a prick? I know too many religious people who go off on Atheists and how they are “stupid," but why can’t an Atheist do the same thing? It is a bit unfair.
Sean of the Living wrote:
I don’t like Richard Dawkins. It’s not that he speaks out for Atheism and Evolution or anything, I just think he’s a prick.
Why would you say he is a prick? I know too many religious people who go off on Atheists and how they are “stupid," but why can’t an Atheist do the same thing? It is a bit unfair.
No, I didn’t say that, I think that those religious people who do that are pricks too.
Sean of the Living wrote:
I don’t like Richard Dawkins. It’s not that he speaks out for Atheism and Evolution or anything, I just think he’s a prick.
Why would you say he is a prick? I know too many religious people who go off on Atheists and how they are “stupid," but why can’t an Atheist do the same thing? It is a bit unfair.
No, I didn’t say that, I think that those religious people who do that are pricks too.
I know, I was just using that as an example. I know too many people like that.
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