He says it is not neccisarily bad. As long as it doesnt hurt the child. If you get down to it though God if he exists is a badguy(In some’s views) Anyway doesnt make him wrong on other stuff because he does support something morally questionable.
You know, this guy is pro-paedophilia
Yet he calls God a bad guy...
EDIT: I’m not fucking joking. He defends it in his videos.
LoL! He also has a video called “Ad Hominem”. I thought it was relevant to bring it up after your comment.
sidenote- He isn’t all for pedophilia. He only condones it in a society that deems it “ok” or “accepted”. He is saying that the real damage done to a child through pedophilia is when it is growing up in a society that says it wrong, because then the child might feel it is wrong also and become traumatized. His basic point is that “If the child doesn’t mind, it doesn’t matter” if it were in such a sexually open society.
Just remember, girls in societies everywhere, not too long ago in the past, would get married and pregnant as soon as they got their first period. That puts the possible early age for a marital relationship at between ages 9-12
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
He says it is not neccisarily bad. As long as it doesnt hurt the child. If you get down to it though God if he exists is a badguy(In some’s views) Anyway doesnt make him wrong on other stuff because he does support something morally questionable.
Khorib wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
You know, this guy is pro-paedophilia
Yet he calls God a bad guy...
EDIT: I’m not fucking joking. He defends it in his videos.
LoL! He also has a video called “Ad Hominem”. I thought it was relevant to bring it up after your comment.
sidenote- He isn’t all for pedophilia. He only condones it in a society that deems it “ok” or “accepted”. He is saying that the real damage done to a child through pedophilia is when it is growing up in a society that says it wrong, because then the child might feel it is wrong also and become traumatized. His basic point is that “If the child doesn’t mind, it doesn’t matter” if it were in such a sexually open society.
Just remember, girls in societies everywhere, not too long ago in the past, would get married and pregnant as soon as they got their first period. That puts the possible early age for a marital relationship at between ages 9-12
I’m not saying it invalidates his argument against God at all, I kind of agree with it. I just think he’s being hypocritical.
As for his the comments on paedophilia; the damage done might not necessarily be because we live in a society where it’s unacceptible. Overall, children don’t really have sexual arousal like we do until they hit puberty. Before then, they are often repulsed by it. Part of the damage is because they can’t generally consent to it and understand what is going on, though they still know they don’t like it. A lot of the symptoms from child abuse emerge right after it happens, not years later when they find out that what happened to them is considered wrong by society. Just because it was acceptable in societies in the past doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad either. Past societies of that time also had horrid, cruel and unfair laws compared to what we have today.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
He says it is not neccisarily bad. As long as it doesnt hurt the child. If you get down to it though God if he exists is a badguy(In some’s views) Anyway doesnt make him wrong on other stuff because he does support something morally questionable.
Khorib wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
You know, this guy is pro-paedophilia
Yet he calls God a bad guy...
EDIT: I’m not fucking joking. He defends it in his videos.
LoL! He also has a video called “Ad Hominem”. I thought it was relevant to bring it up after your comment.
sidenote- He isn’t all for pedophilia. He only condones it in a society that deems it “ok” or “accepted”. He is saying that the real damage done to a child through pedophilia is when it is growing up in a society that says it wrong, because then the child might feel it is wrong also and become traumatized. His basic point is that “If the child doesn’t mind, it doesn’t matter” if it were in such a sexually open society.
Just remember, girls in societies everywhere, not too long ago in the past, would get married and pregnant as soon as they got their first period. That puts the possible early age for a marital relationship at between ages 9-12
I’m not saying it invalidates his argument against God at all, I kind of agree with it. I just think he’s being hypocritical.
As for his the comments on paedophilia; the damage done might not necessarily be because we live in a society where it’s unacceptible. Overall, children don’t really have sexual arousal like we do until they hit puberty. Before then, they are often repulsed by it. Part of the damage is because they can’t generally consent to it and understand what is going on, though they still know they don’t like it. A lot of the symptoms from child abuse emerge right after it happens, not years later when they find out that what happened to them is considered wrong by society. Just because it was acceptable in societies in the past doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad either. Past societies of that time also had horrid, cruel and unfair laws compared to what we have today.
I think I gotta disagree. I myself was highly sexual, for whatever reason, well before puberty. But that aside from the point, I’d still say that a child at 8 years old will know intuitively that that the act is considered perverse by society, and it being secretive only adds to the idea of it possibly being wrong.
I think if you heard about it all the time, like over hearing your neighbors talk about it, and people at school, etc... (as fucked up as that sounds) I still agree and think the kids wouldn’t sustain any psychological damage.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
He says it is not neccisarily bad. As long as it doesnt hurt the child. If you get down to it though God if he exists is a badguy(In some’s views) Anyway doesnt make him wrong on other stuff because he does support something morally questionable.
Khorib wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
You know, this guy is pro-paedophilia
Yet he calls God a bad guy...
EDIT: I’m not fucking joking. He defends it in his videos.
LoL! He also has a video called “Ad Hominem”. I thought it was relevant to bring it up after your comment.
sidenote- He isn’t all for pedophilia. He only condones it in a society that deems it “ok” or “accepted”. He is saying that the real damage done to a child through pedophilia is when it is growing up in a society that says it wrong, because then the child might feel it is wrong also and become traumatized. His basic point is that “If the child doesn’t mind, it doesn’t matter” if it were in such a sexually open society.
Just remember, girls in societies everywhere, not too long ago in the past, would get married and pregnant as soon as they got their first period. That puts the possible early age for a marital relationship at between ages 9-12
I’m not saying it invalidates his argument against God at all, I kind of agree with it. I just think he’s being hypocritical.
As for his the comments on paedophilia; the damage done might not necessarily be because we live in a society where it’s unacceptible. Overall, children don’t really have sexual arousal like we do until they hit puberty. Before then, they are often repulsed by it. Part of the damage is because they can’t generally consent to it and understand what is going on, though they still know they don’t like it. A lot of the symptoms from child abuse emerge right after it happens, not years later when they find out that what happened to them is considered wrong by society. Just because it was acceptable in societies in the past doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad either. Past societies of that time also had horrid, cruel and unfair laws compared to what we have today.
I think I gotta disagree. I myself was highly sexual, for whatever reason, well before puberty. But that aside from the point, I’d still say that a child at 8 years old will know intuitively that that the act is considered perverse by society, and it being secretive only adds to the idea of it possibly being wrong.
I think if you heard about it all the time, like over hearing your neighbors talk about it, and people at school, etc... (as fucked up as that sounds) I still agree and think the kids wouldn’t sustain any psychological damage.
What the fuck? Do you think the 8 year old is going to flirt sexually with adults older than them, then when asked for sex; strip willingly and lie down and take it and enjoy it? They’re not pint sized adults, Khorib. If they can’t understand it, but still know they don’t like it, it will fuck with their mind regardless. Even if some of them do like it, there will be many who don’t and they could be pressured by the “utopian society” (Dendrophillians own words) to conform to it and that could cause psychological damage later in life if they couldn’t express or understand their dislike at the time or even grasp the concept of what they were doing, in which case it wouldn’t be consensual. Sure, not everything unconsensual (like bath and bedtimes) is bad for a child, but when it comes to sex, to not have consent is fucking rape.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, 8 years old is too young, I think by like 14 or 15 though, One is really old enough to give consent. That my opinion.
Well, I don’t really care if it’s teenagers. To me the fact that teenagers often have sexual arousal, sexual fantasies, developed sex organs and sexual relationships proves that they are sexual. Kids are a different matter.
In other words, I agree.
Last edited 25 Jun 2008 08:57 pm by Sean of the Living
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, 8 years old is too young, I think by like 14 or 15 though, One is really old enough to give consent. That my opinion.
Well, I don’t really care if it’s teenagers. To me the fact that teenagers often have sexual arousal, sexual fantasies, developed sex organs and sexual relationships proves that they are sexual. Kids are a different matter.
In other words, I agree.
Yeah, and people at NAMBLA are trying to get the adultxkids thing legalized. Like being able to get married and such.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, 8 years old is too young, I think by like 14 or 15 though, One is really old enough to give consent. That my opinion.
Well, I don’t really care if it’s teenagers. To me the fact that teenagers often have sexual arousal, sexual fantasies, developed sex organs and sexual relationships proves that they are sexual. Kids are a different matter.
In other words, I agree.
Yeah, and people at NAMBLA are trying to get the adultxkids thing legalized. Like being able to get married and such.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, 8 years old is too young, I think by like 14 or 15 though, One is really old enough to give consent. That my opinion.
Well, I don’t really care if it’s teenagers. To me the fact that teenagers often have sexual arousal, sexual fantasies, developed sex organs and sexual relationships proves that they are sexual. Kids are a different matter.
In other words, I agree.
Yeah, and people at NAMBLA are trying to get the adultxkids thing legalized. Like being able to get married and such.
What does NAMBLA stand for?
North American Man-Boy Love Association
--- When good men do nothing, that is evil enough.
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