| 18 Jun 2008 09:15 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26 Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
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kev360 wrote:
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mmk, time for some basic questions that need to be answered before this goes on...
how can he stop alucard from just mind controlling him?
if alucard can mind read him, then doesn’t that mean he can predict his attacks, and using his teleportation, defeat him with ease?
how could he fight alucard if he can’t see him? (invisibility)
and, of course, how can he finish alucard off? alucard could finish it by sucking his soul out, but how could jackie do it?
no seeing as darkness can see the future as well as read peoples minds through shadows, and being invisible doesnt stop one from casting a shadow which darkness can manipulate as well as alucard would have to pass through his infinite darkling to get to jackie
no, i’m saying, if he’s invisible, then its kinda hard to attack him. you can’t attack your opponent if you don’t know where to attack. [edit] ok, i saw your answer to this in your other post.
he wouldn’t have to pass through them. he can teleport.
and, you still didn’t answer the first question, or the last one.
as can darknes, like I said darkness has all of alucards powers and more, he sees alucard and wit ha thought alucards body is being tornup as endless darkness minions pour from his body
after watch the video he also seems less durable as a bullet penetrated his skull and put him down briefly
i know that, i’m saying you can’t put a wall between you and someone else if that person can just teleport past the wall. what makes you think that would make him bat an eyelash?
yeah, stuff penetrates him, but it doesn’t bother him. he could have dodged easily, but he chose to just sit there because in the end, it didn’t really matter to him whether or not he got hit. the bullets did pretty much nothing to him. he got knocked back because thats how physics work.
and, you’ve still yet to answer my first and fourth questions.
nor did I say darkness would shoot him, merely darkness has a more durable body
and again the match would be over fast, before alucard can summon his familiars hordes of darkligns will be pouring from his body and eating his insides out
ok, given.
i really don’t think that that would bother him that much.
.....being reduced to a pile of skin in and instant wouldnt bother him?
He’d just regenerate from it.
not if its happening continually as well as the fact the darkness could then proceed to eat his flesh
Then Alucard regenerates inside Jackie’s body and kills him that way.
And plus, Alucard can absorb his soul, effectively putting an end to Jackie’s apparently immortality from the powers of the Darkness.
how in the heck would alucard amaanage to regenerate when there is nothing left to him to regenrate from
especially since once again darkness ca nuse his powers faster
You have no proof of if he can use his powers faster. Alucard can move faster than the eye can see. That’s faster than the speed of sound.
Alucard is actually faster than Jackie.
darkness however can activate his powers at the speed of sound, all darkness has to do is summon his darklings insie of alucard and its over, that simple, and faster than the eye can follow is relative to the distance between the person and the moving object
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 | | | | 18 Jun 2008 09:18 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85 Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
mmk, time for some basic questions that need to be answered before this goes on...
how can he stop alucard from just mind controlling him?
if alucard can mind read him, then doesn’t that mean he can predict his attacks, and using his teleportation, defeat him with ease?
how could he fight alucard if he can’t see him? (invisibility)
and, of course, how can he finish alucard off? alucard could finish it by sucking his soul out, but how could jackie do it?
no seeing as darkness can see the future as well as read peoples minds through shadows, and being invisible doesnt stop one from casting a shadow which darkness can manipulate as well as alucard would have to pass through his infinite darkling to get to jackie
no, i’m saying, if he’s invisible, then its kinda hard to attack him. you can’t attack your opponent if you don’t know where to attack. [edit] ok, i saw your answer to this in your other post.
he wouldn’t have to pass through them. he can teleport.
and, you still didn’t answer the first question, or the last one.
as can darknes, like I said darkness has all of alucards powers and more, he sees alucard and wit ha thought alucards body is being tornup as endless darkness minions pour from his body
after watch the video he also seems less durable as a bullet penetrated his skull and put him down briefly
i know that, i’m saying you can’t put a wall between you and someone else if that person can just teleport past the wall. what makes you think that would make him bat an eyelash?
yeah, stuff penetrates him, but it doesn’t bother him. he could have dodged easily, but he chose to just sit there because in the end, it didn’t really matter to him whether or not he got hit. the bullets did pretty much nothing to him. he got knocked back because thats how physics work.
and, you’ve still yet to answer my first and fourth questions.
nor did I say darkness would shoot him, merely darkness has a more durable body
and again the match would be over fast, before alucard can summon his familiars hordes of darkligns will be pouring from his body and eating his insides out
ok, given.
i really don’t think that that would bother him that much.
.....being reduced to a pile of skin in and instant wouldnt bother him?
He’d just regenerate from it.
not if its happening continually as well as the fact the darkness could then proceed to eat his flesh
Then Alucard regenerates inside Jackie’s body and kills him that way.
And plus, Alucard can absorb his soul, effectively putting an end to Jackie’s apparently immortality from the powers of the Darkness.
how in the heck would alucard amaanage to regenerate when there is nothing left to him to regenrate from
especially since once again darkness ca nuse his powers faster
You have no proof of if he can use his powers faster. Alucard can move faster than the eye can see. That’s faster than the speed of sound.
Alucard is actually faster than Jackie.
darkness however can activate his powers at the speed of sound, all darkness has to do is summon his darklings insie of alucard and its over, that simple, and faster than the eye can follow is relative to the distance between the person and the moving object
Yeah, the further away it’s easier to see. Blah Blah. Speed of sound though, even up close isn’t that fast. Alucard’s a bullet timer, more or less. He’s that damn fast. Jackie can activate his powers all he wants, Alucard will have teleported by the time it happens.
 | | | 18 Jun 2008 09:21 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
mmk, time for some basic questions that need to be answered before this goes on...
how can he stop alucard from just mind controlling him?
if alucard can mind read him, then doesn’t that mean he can predict his attacks, and using his teleportation, defeat him with ease?
how could he fight alucard if he can’t see him? (invisibility)
and, of course, how can he finish alucard off? alucard could finish it by sucking his soul out, but how could jackie do it?
no seeing as darkness can see the future as well as read peoples minds through shadows, and being invisible doesnt stop one from casting a shadow which darkness can manipulate as well as alucard would have to pass through his infinite darkling to get to jackie
no, i’m saying, if he’s invisible, then its kinda hard to attack him. you can’t attack your opponent if you don’t know where to attack. [edit] ok, i saw your answer to this in your other post.
he wouldn’t have to pass through them. he can teleport.
and, you still didn’t answer the first question, or the last one.
as can darknes, like I said darkness has all of alucards powers and more, he sees alucard and wit ha thought alucards body is being tornup as endless darkness minions pour from his body
after watch the video he also seems less durable as a bullet penetrated his skull and put him down briefly
i know that, i’m saying you can’t put a wall between you and someone else if that person can just teleport past the wall. what makes you think that would make him bat an eyelash?
yeah, stuff penetrates him, but it doesn’t bother him. he could have dodged easily, but he chose to just sit there because in the end, it didn’t really matter to him whether or not he got hit. the bullets did pretty much nothing to him. he got knocked back because thats how physics work.
and, you’ve still yet to answer my first and fourth questions.
nor did I say darkness would shoot him, merely darkness has a more durable body
and again the match would be over fast, before alucard can summon his familiars hordes of darkligns will be pouring from his body and eating his insides out
ok, given.
i really don’t think that that would bother him that much.
.....being reduced to a pile of skin in and instant wouldnt bother him?
He’d just regenerate from it.
not if its happening continually as well as the fact the darkness could then proceed to eat his flesh
Then Alucard regenerates inside Jackie’s body and kills him that way.
And plus, Alucard can absorb his soul, effectively putting an end to Jackie’s apparently immortality from the powers of the Darkness.
how in the heck would alucard amaanage to regenerate when there is nothing left to him to regenrate from
especially since once again darkness ca nuse his powers faster
You have no proof of if he can use his powers faster. Alucard can move faster than the eye can see. That’s faster than the speed of sound.
Alucard is actually faster than Jackie.
darkness however can activate his powers at the speed of sound, all darkness has to do is summon his darklings insie of alucard and its over, that simple, and faster than the eye can follow is relative to the distance between the person and the moving object
Yeah, the further away it’s easier to see. Blah Blah. Speed of sound though, even up close isn’t that fast. Alucard’s a bullet timer, more or less. He’s that damn fast. Jackie can activate his powers all he wants, Alucard will have teleported by the time it happens.
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
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| | | 18 Jun 2008 09:24 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
| | | 18 Jun 2008 09:37 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
mindcontorl wouldnt work seeing as hes been up against demons stronger than alucard before as well as te fact that once again alucard cant move/walk/attack wit hhis insides eaten out, darkness can preform this faster/as fast as the speed of sound
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| | | 18 Jun 2008 09:38 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
mindcontorl wouldnt work seeing as hes been up against demons stronger than alucard before as well as te fact that once again alucard cant move/walk/attack wit hhis insides eaten out, darkness can preform this faster/as fast as the speed of sound
So, demons have tried to mind control him?
Fair enough. Alucard is still actually faster though.
| | | 18 Jun 2008 09:41 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
mindcontorl wouldnt work seeing as hes been up against demons stronger than alucard before as well as te fact that once again alucard cant move/walk/attack wit hhis insides eaten out, darkness can preform this faster/as fast as the speed of sound
So, demons have tried to mind control him?
Fair enough. Alucard is still actually faster though.
not faster than teleportation, makes them equalls fast, and again darkness power to manifest his demons inside alucard is the ace i nthe hole
me=destinyguy678
| | | 18 Jun 2008 09:45 pm |
SAMOŠ Rep: 34 Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,715 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
mindcontorl wouldnt work seeing as hes been up against demons stronger than alucard before as well as te fact that once again alucard cant move/walk/attack wit hhis insides eaten out, darkness can preform this faster/as fast as the speed of sound
So, demons have tried to mind control him?
Fair enough. Alucard is still actually faster though.
not faster than teleportation, makes them equalls fast, and again darkness power to manifest his demons inside alucard is the ace i nthe hole
but, going intangible kinda stops this.
 | | | 18 Jun 2008 09:47 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
mindcontorl wouldnt work seeing as hes been up against demons stronger than alucard before as well as te fact that once again alucard cant move/walk/attack wit hhis insides eaten out, darkness can preform this faster/as fast as the speed of sound
So, demons have tried to mind control him?
Fair enough. Alucard is still actually faster though.
not faster than teleportation, makes them equalls fast, and again darkness power to manifest his demons inside alucard is the ace i nthe hole
but, going intangible kinda stops this.
Having regeneration MUCH greater than that of Wolverine and the Hulk combined kind of stops that.
| | | 18 Jun 2008 10:01 pm |
SAMOŠ Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,715 OFFLINE | ok, how about this...they both read minds, so that alone would make a pretty crazy fight of mind games, but we gotta assume both know everything about the other because of this. that means alucard knows jackie’s weakness. and its a huge one. alucard has shown that he is smart enough to come up with complex strategies when he needs to (he almost never does), so it would only be a matter of time before they were in the sunlight. then, it would be over. alucard isn’t a big fan of sunlight, but the sun rapes jackie hard core like. ---
| | | 18 Jun 2008 10:09 pm |
SAMOŠ Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,715 OFFLINE | and, here’s for this. three reasons why that tactic won’t work.
1) alucard has amazing healing abilities, and would probably collapse his body into hundreds of bats when it first started happening.
2) he can simply become intangible when they are summoned (note: yes, i realize this requires him having knowledge of whats going to happen, but mind reading kind of lets that happen.)
3) he can change his shape into a mass of darkness. ---
| | | 18 Jun 2008 10:46 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
ok, how about this...they both read minds, so that alone would make a pretty crazy fight of mind games, but we gotta assume both know everything about the other because of this. that means alucard knows jackie’s weakness. and its a huge one. alucard has shown that he is smart enough to come up with complex strategies when he needs to (he almost never does), so it would only be a matter of time before they were in the sunlight. then, it would be over. alucard isn’t a big fan of sunlight, but the sun rapes jackie hard core like.
sunlight no longer affects jackie
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| | | 18 Jun 2008 10:47 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
and, here’s for this. three reasons why that tactic won’t work.
1) alucard has amazing healing abilities, and would probably collapse his body into hundreds of bats when it first started happening.
2) he can simply become intangible when they are summoned (note: yes, i realize this requires him having knowledge of whats going to happen, but mind reading kind of lets that happen.)
3) he can change his shape into a mass of darkness.
intangability doesnt exactly stop tihngs that are manifesting inside you, when you go intangible things inside your body stay inside your body
jackie controls darkness
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| | | 18 Jun 2008 10:49 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
intangability doesnt exactly stop tihngs that are manifesting inside you, when you go intangible things inside your body stay inside your body
That still doesn’t get through that he can simply disperse into a bunch of bats, I think he can turn into smoke as well. I’ll need to look that up.
| | | 18 Jun 2008 10:53 pm |
SAMOŠ Rep: 34Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,715 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
ok, how about this...they both read minds, so that alone would make a pretty crazy fight of mind games, but we gotta assume both know everything about the other because of this. that means alucard knows jackie’s weakness. and its a huge one. alucard has shown that he is smart enough to come up with complex strategies when he needs to (he almost never does), so it would only be a matter of time before they were in the sunlight. then, it would be over. alucard isn’t a big fan of sunlight, but the sun rapes jackie hard core like.
sunlight no longer affects jackie
since when? either way, devouring his soul still stands, though it would only be after a long enough fight to get in a position where he could deliver the finishing blow. so, its not instant win.
um...how exactly do you eat something thats intangible? i’ve tried before, and its REALLY tough.
as can alucard.
| | | 19 Jun 2008 09:33 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
darknes is just as fast as alucard is and can teleport just as easily, all darknness does is look at him and his minions come pouring out, you hoever havent given any succesful way in which alucard could harm darkness
We’ve been telling you that Alucard can absorb souls since page one. He doesn’t even have to be close either.
He can also put Jackie under his mind control. You’re the one who’s failing to give valid points on how he can do any harm to Alucard. Considering that blessed weapons are the only things that actually hurt Alucard.
mindcontorl wouldnt work seeing as hes been up against demons stronger than alucard before as well as te fact that once again alucard cant move/walk/attack wit hhis insides eaten out, darkness can preform this faster/as fast as the speed of sound
So, demons have tried to mind control him?
Fair enough. Alucard is still actually faster though.
not faster than teleportation, makes them equalls fast, and again darkness power to manifest his demons inside alucard is the ace i nthe hole
but, going intangible kinda stops this.
Having regeneration MUCH greater than that of Wolverine and the Hulk combined kind of stops that.
except for the fact darknss has the same amount of regeneration, aaand if its happening continually he cant regenerate from it
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| | | 19 Jun 2008 09:34 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
Trackz wrote:
kev360 wrote:
ok, how about this...they both read minds, so that alone would make a pretty crazy fight of mind games, but we gotta assume both know everything about the other because of this. that means alucard knows jackie’s weakness. and its a huge one. alucard has shown that he is smart enough to come up with complex strategies when he needs to (he almost never does), so it would only be a matter of time before they were in the sunlight. then, it would be over. alucard isn’t a big fan of sunlight, but the sun rapes jackie hard core like.
sunlight no longer affects jackie
since when? either way, devouring his soul still stands, though it would only be after a long enough fight to get in a position where he could deliver the finishing blow. so, its not instant win.
um...how exactly do you eat something thats intangible? i’ve tried before, and its REALLY tough.
as can alucard.
have you read the character recently?, and the beats are manifesting inside him, when something goes intangible what they ate for breakfast doesnt fall out of them, it goes intangible with them
me=destinyguy678
| | | 19 Jun 2008 09:35 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
intangability doesnt exactly stop tihngs that are manifesting inside you, when you go intangible things inside your body stay inside your body
That still doesn’t get through that he can simply disperse into a bunch of bats, I think he can turn into smoke as well. I’ll need to look that up.
....ok...he turns into a bunch of bats the bats get eaten
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| | | 19 Jun 2008 09:39 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25 Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 2,098 OFFLINE | i see this battle end in a very big draw they’re both the same some wat. i like them both they’re some bad mof’s, eb this was one great battle i wish i can give you rep for this fight | | | 26 Oct 2008 12:33 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 2,098 OFFLINE | i had to bring this one back. i just seen a new darkness book he has no new powers i never knew about. | | |
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