ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Alot of times I hear some really messed up debate with DBZ. I will give some pretty solid evidence as to why PLS do not determine how much energy output you have. Let’s begin shall we?
Roshi Pulvirized the moon at the PL of 139 correct. The moon is 1/4 the size of the earth so logic dictates 556 would be the powerlevel you would need to blow up the world correct? Well lets do some calculations.
Raditz’s power level was 1500. Now. He can by logic blow up about 2 planets. (1500/556)
In Oozaru form(10x the normal state power) he would be busting planets 20x over (10 times 2=20)
Now Vegeta’s power was around 18k when he made the claim he could destroy the planet. But that really isn’t that impressive is it considering even RADITZ in Oozaru form could bust 20 planets.
Why would he brag about destroying just ONE planet when he has enough power to destroy 32 Planets
There was nothing wrong with that he said.
“I’m going to destroy the earth!"
that’s what he said. He wasn’t bragging about anything. Also he was weakened. For all you know he only had the power to destroy 1 planet
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
but it gets even crazier people. Oozaru Vegeta could bust 323 planets(Can be rounded to 324 because it is 323.7)
If you thought that is good psshhhh... Goku by the fight with Captian Ginyu is already more than twice as strong as he was. (His PL is 180,000 at this time) lets see...323 planets hmmmmm(Same as Vegeta’s actually in Oozaru form)
Lets speed up and go to 2nd form Frieza. With the PL of about 1 mil. Now he should be able to blow up 1798 planets. Let me remind you thats more than this solar system has
You have to take distance into account. If you copy earth over and over and put them next to each other until it reaches Mars that’s well over 1000 earths
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: I think 1798 planets are bigger than the sun
The sun is 1 million times bigger than earth. unless all the planets they’re busting are bigger than freakin jupiter 1798 planets doesn’t come close to the sun
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
...But I digress.
You also...you know what, no, it’s just too easy
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku SSJ PL 150,000,000. How many planets can he bust? 188,790. Yes people that many.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Speed up shall we? Cell’s PL apperently is about 350,000,000 lets see here: 629,496 planets. If he could do that why the hell brag about being able to destroy the solar system? Makes you wonder eh?
Cells powerlevel is never given. Powerlevels stopped being given little after the freeza saga
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Now. Apperently SSJ3 Goku was around 900 mil? Lets see how many planets now: 1,618,705 planets.
where the hell are you getting these numbers?
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
You know what? This just doesn’t work.
Not with your logic it doesn’t
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Obviously PL does not determine energy output.
that’s what he said. He wasn’t bragging about anything. Also he was weakened. For all you know he only had the power to destroy 1 planet
If Pls determine energy output he had the power to destroy way more.
You have to take distance into account. If you copy earth over and over and put them next to each other until it reaches Mars that’s well over 1000 earths
And this proves what? Sure there is a big distance but doesn’t change he had the power to destroy that many planets apperently.
The sun is 1 million times bigger than earth. unless all the planets they’re busting are bigger than freakin jupiter 1798 planets doesn’t come close to the sun
^lolz. I said planets. Not earth. Either way, you think Coola has enough energy to destroy the sun soooo...
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
...But I digress.
You also...you know what, no, it’s just too easy
Good thinking. Your arguments usually are to counter.
Cells powerlevel is never given. Powerlevels stopped being given little after the freeza saga
My point was proven long before Cell was mentioned anyway, but if you must know the internet.
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
powerlevel of 5000?
goku once had a power level of 60,000 which amounted up to 3000 kilos then the whole 300 kilos part was said and if you divide 6000 by 10 you get the real number
The sun is 1 million times bigger than earth. unless all the planets they’re busting are bigger than freakin jupiter 1798 planets doesn’t come close to the sun
He actually said PLANETS. Not earth. So yeah before you start your petty mockery read what he said instead of assuming.
Cells powerlevel is never given. Powerlevels stopped being given little after the freeza saga
I find that so funny because you are being a fucking hypocrite AGAIN, I remember one time when seed said he calculated from the powerlevels that Goku can bust a universe, and then you said the 'numbers never lie' yeah this is the same seed who admitted to making up power levels but as soon as it doesn’t go in your favour, it’s like SOOOOOOOOOOOO wrong, jesus, you couldn’t be more hypocritical if you tried.
Here is the INSANE proof.
Manchester Black wrote:
Exactly.Seed keeps saying Goku can destroy it and when I ask for proof he just says he can and the numbers don’t lie.
Then you replied with
Invaderzym wrote:The numbers don’t lie. It’s your own damn fault for refusing to believe them and calling them made up
Manchester Black sums this all up
Manchester Black wrote:
The numbers lie when they themselves are lies.He just goes and states “Gokus power level increased 30,000 times” without any proof.Exactly you want to accep the numbers because it helps Brolly in this situation.
--- Possibly the quote of the week.
seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
People have said that Goku can move at the speed of light since it was stated that Raditz could in this video here. I decided to look into this theory and supposed claim.
At 9:19, Piccolo states that Raditz is faster than the speed of light.
And then I watch the Original Japanese version.
He says, “What kind of bastard is he, with such speed?" And there is no reference of the speed of light as you can see here at 8:56.
Here in the last scan, Piccolo only says that he side-stepped it. Nothing of the speed of light. I guess all he has to do is move over a little, and he’s just fine.
Then there is the theory that Burter can move at the speed of light. I have not seen anyone prove this, but I have decided to look into this.
I watch the fight where Goku is going up against Burter and Jeice of the Ginyu Force, and from watching this, at 10:52 into the video, Burter tells Jeice that he may be fast, but I’m the fastest being in the universe, nothing to refer that he can go past the speed of light.
Then I look at this scan, and Burter says to Goku that he’s the fastest in the universe. No reference to being FTL.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Alot of times I hear some really messed up debate with DBZ. I will give some pretty solid evidence as to why PLS do not determine how much energy output you have. Let’s begin shall we?
Roshi Pulvirized the moon at the PL of 139 correct. The moon is 1/4 the size of the earth so logic dictates 556 would be the powerlevel you would need to blow up the world correct? Well lets do some calculations.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Alot of times I hear some really messed up debate with DBZ. I will give some pretty solid evidence as to why PLS do not determine how much energy output you have. Let’s begin shall we?
Roshi Pulvirized the moon at the PL of 139 correct. The moon is 1/4 the size of the earth so logic dictates 556 would be the powerlevel you would need to blow up the world correct? Well lets do some calculations.
Jw, I was just watching my Kid Buu tributation and when he blows up earth you see nothing around but in the background you can see a galaxy, is that normal or did he destroy the galaxy in the anime?
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Jw, I was just watching my Kid Buu tributation and when he blows up earth you see nothing around but in the background you can see a galaxy, is that normal or did he destroy the galaxy in the anime?
I don’t know. I’ll have to look into that as well, and in the manga also.
And there are too many plot twists in DBZ, as we already know.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Jw, I was just watching my Kid Buu tributation and when he blows up earth you see nothing around but in the background you can see a galaxy, is that normal or did he destroy the galaxy in the anime?
I don’t know. I’ll have to look into that as well, and in the manga also.
And there are too many plot twists in DBZ, as we already know.
Well if he did destroy the galaxy, Goku has bad estimation in power lol. It wouldn’t controdict the manga either.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Jw, I was just watching my Kid Buu tributation and when he blows up earth you see nothing around but in the background you can see a galaxy, is that normal or did he destroy the galaxy in the anime?
I don’t know. I’ll have to look into that as well, and in the manga also.
And there are too many plot twists in DBZ, as we already know.
Well if he did destroy the galaxy, Goku has bad estimation in power lol. It wouldn’t controdict the manga either.
Well, Broly did, just not completely. There are different levels of destruction. I just had to look further into this.
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