| 24 Jun 2008 04:07 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 29  Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,125 OFFLINE |
 Darth Nihilus wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
One thing I have never seen. An argument between an Atheist and a Nihilist. How would that end?
Not much of an arguement goes on between the two. I have been in an argument with an atheist. It was wierd. Pretty much, it usually goes in circles. The atheist gets confused alot, and the nihilist has to repeat things. Nihilistic/Atheistic arguements are pretty funny.
Demonstration:
Ath: I don’t believe in God.
Nih: Me neither.
Ath: People in the middle east are morons, they don’t even follow morals.
Nih: What morals?
Ath: ???? You know, morals...
Nih: Well if there is no God, what made morals?
Ath: Morals exist, we perform them.
Nih: They differ from person to person, depending on life experience. If morals are that manipulative, then they really don’t seem to exist, they are an illusion.
Ath: So you think killing people is a good thing?
Nih: It is neither good or bad.
Ath: You are a sick person.
Nih: No. I am being logical. If you believe morals exist, you believe in God, because if there were such thing as morals, they would have to be made by a supreme being by God.
Ath: But there is no God...
Nih: So there are no morals
Ath: ...Wait...what?
Thank you. I just lol’d.
Lol, it always just becomes a circle LOL
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 | | 24 Jun 2008 04:10 pm |
Bitches don't know bout my Dhaos Laser. Rep: 49 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 10,855 OFFLINE | I do agree with the Nihilistic philosophy alot though. It makes alot of sence.
| | | 24 Jun 2008 04:14 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 29Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,125 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I do agree with the Nihilistic philosophy alot though. It makes alot of sence.
It is a pretty genius philosophy. Unfortunately, a lot of people are afraid of it because if they do, they will think that they are considered worthless and pointless (which is ho nihilism views life, individual people, and the universe) because there is no official meaning to life (if there is no God) and we are just a sack of meat with eyes with many chemical reactions going on in us. It is very hard to explain though. The only way someone can truly understand it is if they just truly look at everything and think about it for a while, and ask yourself “Why is it here? What is the point? etc” that is how I became a nihilst.
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| | | 24 Jun 2008 04:14 pm |
シス卿 Rep: 87 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 31,011 ONLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
One thing I have never seen. An argument between an Atheist and a Nihilist. How would that end?
Not much of an arguement goes on between the two. I have been in an argument with an atheist. It was wierd. Pretty much, it usually goes in circles. The atheist gets confused alot, and the nihilist has to repeat things. Nihilistic/Atheistic arguements are pretty funny.
Demonstration:
Ath: I don’t believe in God.
Nih: Me neither.
Ath: People in the middle east are morons, they don’t even follow morals.
Nih: What morals?
Ath: ???? You know, morals...
Nih: Well if there is no God, what made morals?
Ath: Morals exist, we perform them.
Nih: They differ from person to person, depending on life experience. If morals are that manipulative, then they really don’t seem to exist, they are an illusion.
Ath: So you think killing people is a good thing?
Nih: It is neither good or bad.
Ath: You are a sick person.
Nih: No. I am being logical. If you believe morals exist, you believe in God, because if there were such thing as morals, they would have to be made by a supreme being by God.
Ath: But there is no God...
Nih: So there are no morals
Ath: ...Wait...what?
Thank you. I just lol’d.
Lol, it always just becomes a circle LOL
That it does. haha
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 | | | 24 Jun 2008 06:57 pm |
hahahahaha Rep: 27 Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,065 ONLINE | yeah, honestly, i think a lot like that. i’m pretty dang sure that if i were to abandon christianity for whatever reason, i’d go to nihilism. without any base, moral is subjective. thats why you see different societies with different codes of morals. if you realize morals for what they are (baseless), then they really don’t exist.
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 Last edited 24 Jun 2008 07:00 pm by kev360 | | | 24 Jun 2008 07:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 29Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,125 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
yeah, honestly, i think a lot like that. i’m pretty dang sure that if i were to abandon christianity for whatever reason, i’d go to nihilism. without any base, moral is subjective. thats why you see different societies with different codes of morals. if you realize morals for what they are (baseless), then they really don’t exist.
You nailed it Kev.
But Nihilism is not all about morals not existing either. It goes very deep, even to the point of saying life and emotion does not exist, which I believe.
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| | | 24 Jun 2008 07:20 pm |
hahahahaha Rep: 27Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,065 ONLINE | petrofsky wrote:
kev360 wrote:
yeah, honestly, i think a lot like that. i’m pretty dang sure that if i were to abandon christianity for whatever reason, i’d go to nihilism. without any base, moral is subjective. thats why you see different societies with different codes of morals. if you realize morals for what they are (baseless), then they really don’t exist.
You nailed it Kev.
But Nihilism is not all about morals not existing either. It goes very deep, even to the point of saying life and emotion does not exist, which I believe.
yeah, and my thoughts do the same. but, we were kinda on the subject of morals.
but, yeah, i kinda go though fazes of depression where i think about how my life really doesn’t have any meaning. in fact, no ones life has any meaning. nothing has meaning. we are all just one six in a half billion. we are all nothing. together, we are nothing, because as individuals, we are nothing. human society is nothing. we are just cockroaches, squirming around based on primal instincts till we die and its all over. as you said, life is just a bunch of chemical reactions that take place and happen to force things to move. its really nothing more then any other cycle. this one is just a bit more complex.
yeah...thats when i have to remind myself what i believe.
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| | | 24 Jun 2008 07:22 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 29Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,125 OFFLINE | kev360 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
kev360 wrote:
yeah, honestly, i think a lot like that. i’m pretty dang sure that if i were to abandon christianity for whatever reason, i’d go to nihilism. without any base, moral is subjective. thats why you see different societies with different codes of morals. if you realize morals for what they are (baseless), then they really don’t exist.
You nailed it Kev.
But Nihilism is not all about morals not existing either. It goes very deep, even to the point of saying life and emotion does not exist, which I believe.
yeah, and my thoughts do the same. but, we were kinda on the subject of morals.
but, yeah, i kinda go though fazes of depression where i think about how my life really doesn’t have any meaning. in fact, no ones life has any meaning. nothing has meaning. we are all just one six in a half billion. we are all nothing. together, we are nothing, because as individuals, we are nothing. human society is nothing. we are just cockroaches, squirming around based on primal instincts till we die and its all over. as you said, life is just a bunch of chemical reactions that take place and happen to force things to move. its really nothing more then any other cycle. this one is just a bit more complex.
yeah...thats when i have to remind myself what i believe.
Yeah, it sounds like you are on the same page as me. Sounds like you very well could be a nihilist. Nihilism is a very depressing idea, but really, when you think about it, is that really gonna stop you from doing what you want to do as a human? If you think about that, you wont be as depressed when you are a nihilst. When I first becamoe one i was very depressed, but I realized that it does not mean I have to be sad. I can do what I want, and I have freedom!
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| | | 24 Jun 2008 07:27 pm |
hahahahaha Rep: 27Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,065 ONLINE | petrofsky wrote:
kev360 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
kev360 wrote:
yeah, honestly, i think a lot like that. i’m pretty dang sure that if i were to abandon christianity for whatever reason, i’d go to nihilism. without any base, moral is subjective. thats why you see different societies with different codes of morals. if you realize morals for what they are (baseless), then they really don’t exist.
You nailed it Kev.
But Nihilism is not all about morals not existing either. It goes very deep, even to the point of saying life and emotion does not exist, which I believe.
yeah, and my thoughts do the same. but, we were kinda on the subject of morals.
but, yeah, i kinda go though fazes of depression where i think about how my life really doesn’t have any meaning. in fact, no ones life has any meaning. nothing has meaning. we are all just one six in a half billion. we are all nothing. together, we are nothing, because as individuals, we are nothing. human society is nothing. we are just cockroaches, squirming around based on primal instincts till we die and its all over. as you said, life is just a bunch of chemical reactions that take place and happen to force things to move. its really nothing more then any other cycle. this one is just a bit more complex.
yeah...thats when i have to remind myself what i believe.
Yeah, it sounds like you are on the same page as me. Sounds like you very well could be a nihilist. Nihilism is a very depressing idea, but really, when you think about it, is that really gonna stop you from doing what you want to do as a human? If you think about that, you wont be as depressed when you are a nihilst. When I first becamoe one i was very depressed, but I realized that it does not mean I have to be sad. I can do what I want, and I have freedom!
heh, yeah, i guess i’m just an extremest. i throw myself completely into christianity, but if i weren’t doing that, i’d be throwing myself into its polar opposite.
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