| 24 Jun 2008 03:32 pm |
Str Guest | Apparently, now the Catholic Church is Non-Creationist, and refuses to be fitted into the way evolution has been framed as aetheistic.
So, where has the idea that Jesus and Darwin are enemies come from, and why does it persist?
On a side note, i would ask those posters attempting to disprove Creationism to refer to it as Creationism, not Christianity, for clarity. | |
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| 25 Jun 2008 08:25 pm |
Scriptor of Alacritas Rep: 63  Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 17,101 OFFLINE | "Evolutionism”? ---
It Puts the Lotion on It’s Skin or Else it Gets the Hose Again...
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| 27 Jun 2008 09:53 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55 Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | Crimson_Blade wrote:
“Evolutionism”?
No such thing, you can make up a word and give it a meaning but unless you are willing to give a “ism” to everything that science explains eg. gravitism, electorism, theromism, celldivism, theory of atomism, nuclearism.
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 28 Jun 2008 10:04 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe ---
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| 28 Jun 2008 11:00 pm |
Scriptor of Alacritas Rep: 63Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 17,101 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Crimson_Blade wrote:
“Evolutionism”?
No such thing, you can make up a word and give it a meaning but unless you are willing to give a “ism” to everything that science explains eg. gravitism, electorism, theromism, celldivism, theory of atomism, nuclearism.
Thats what I meant...
It Puts the Lotion on It’s Skin or Else it Gets the Hose Again...
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:10 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe
Evolution has nothing to do with how life started that is abiogenesis, evolution explains the diversity of life, nothing else.
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 30 Jun 2008 02:11 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | Crimson_Blade wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Crimson_Blade wrote:
“Evolutionism”?
No such thing, you can make up a word and give it a meaning but unless you are willing to give a “ism” to everything that science explains eg. gravitism, electorism, theromism, celldivism, theory of atomism, nuclearism.
Thats what I meant...
I thought I would point it out better...
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 30 Jun 2008 02:13 am |
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi Rep: 31 Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,772 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Trackz wrote:
why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe
Evolution has nothing to do with how life started that is abiogenesis, evolution explains the diversity of life, nothing else.
Exactly right.
That’s why it’s very much possible for me to believe in creationism AND evolution.
 
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:14 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | Maggot Face wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Trackz wrote:
why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe
Evolution has nothing to do with how life started that is abiogenesis, evolution explains the diversity of life, nothing else.
Exactly right.
That’s why it’s very much possible for me to believe in creationism AND evolution.
well, its kind of hard to ignore the diversity of life thats on this planet....
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 30 Jun 2008 02:16 am |
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi Rep: 31Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,772 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Maggot Face wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Trackz wrote:
why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe
Evolution has nothing to do with how life started that is abiogenesis, evolution explains the diversity of life, nothing else.
Exactly right.
That’s why it’s very much possible for me to believe in creationism AND evolution.
well, its kind of hard to ignore the diversity of life thats on this planet....
I agree. There’s plenty of reason to believe evolution made the diversity, what stimulated the initial life is a different story.
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:19 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | Maggot Face wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Maggot Face wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Trackz wrote:
why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe
Evolution has nothing to do with how life started that is abiogenesis, evolution explains the diversity of life, nothing else.
Exactly right.
That’s why it’s very much possible for me to believe in creationism AND evolution.
well, its kind of hard to ignore the diversity of life thats on this planet....
I agree. There’s plenty of reason to believe evolution made the diversity, what stimulated the initial life is a different story.
We dont know, thats where abiogenesis comes in, but its never been proven. Oh and evolution didnt cause anything, its just explain how the diversity of life got here.
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 30 Jun 2008 02:22 am |
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi Rep: 31Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,772 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Maggot Face wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Maggot Face wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Trackz wrote:
why cant evolution and creationism be one in the same, yo ud orealize how hard it would be for life to be spontaneusly created,, evolution can just be a gift given in order for His creations to survive and change with the ever changing universe
Evolution has nothing to do with how life started that is abiogenesis, evolution explains the diversity of life, nothing else.
Exactly right.
That’s why it’s very much possible for me to believe in creationism AND evolution.
well, its kind of hard to ignore the diversity of life thats on this planet....
I agree. There’s plenty of reason to believe evolution made the diversity, what stimulated the initial life is a different story.
We dont know, thats where abiogenesis comes in, but its never been proven. Oh and evolution didnt cause anything, its just explain how the diversity of life got here.
Meh. The term “evolution” has become synonymous with “natural selection”. I think there actually were evolutionary theories that didn’t involve natural selection at all.
I can’t remember honestly. I always slept in science and went off prior knowledge. I’m a horrible example of a gifted student. xD
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:24 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | Maggot Face wrote:
Meh. The term “evolution” has become synonymous with “natural selection”. I think there actually were evolutionary theories that didn’t involve natural selection at all.
I can’t remember honestly. I always slept in science and went off prior knowledge. I’m a horrible example of a gifted student. xD
Natrual selection is part of the function that help create the diversity of life...
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 01 Jul 2008 07:34 am |
Wannabe Rep: 2  Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 59 OFFLINE | and your natures screw up but natural selection will fix that for us. and when it does we’ll give you the charles darwin award. youd like that wouldn;t you ---
Theory is not a guess or hunch. A theory is a logical, self-consistent model. I am a theory. I’m logical and self-consistent about eradicating religion. Um. I guess a theory is a hunch because I’m a hunchback. In fact, I am the hunchback of Notre Dame. It’s ten cents a ride. | |
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