Sephiroth exceeds Sora and Riku by a long shot. Even CC incarnation. He is stronger,Faster,more durable,smarter,more expirenced, and is certianly much cooler.
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Yeah. Your right.
As for before:
Sephiroth, from mere shockwaves from his sword alone tore apart a huge cannon,Sora cut a few buildings in half by slicing through them but that isn’t as impressive as not even touching them.
Speed, well when you fight him he basically teleports in CC so that should be obvious
Durable, He got impaled by a huge ass sword(Buster sword) and got back up didn’t he?
Intelligence, Sephiroth is a genius in battle. Hence why he is a general. He also seems very knowledgeable outside battle too.
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Yeah. Your right.
As for before:
Sephiroth, from mere shockwaves from his sword alone tore apart a huge cannon,Sora cut a few buildings in half by slicing through them but that isn’t as impressive as not even touching them.
Speed, well when you fight him he basically teleports in CC so that should be obvious
Durable, He got impaled by a huge ass sword(Buster sword) and got back up didn’t he?
Intelligence, Sephiroth is a genius in battle. Hence why he is a general. He also seems very knowledgeable outside battle too.
Mabe Riku is secretly stronger than Sora?, he did one hit KO Roxas and could have killed him but dident hmmm...
Sephiroth blade beamed that Cannon his sword could be seen cutting it like a knife through hot butter so Impressive but it dousen’t prove he is stronger only his weapon is incredibly sharp a sword Sora can block with the keyblade just as Genesis did those blade beam’s (Sora also cut building’s like nothing).
Speed is good but Sora and Riku could deflect hundred’s of beam’s flying at them from all angle’s and dodge and fend of multiple Xemnes who could also teliport.
Durability is questionable as Riku took those shot’s from Xemnes weapon’s with little injury
Intel is deffinately on Seph’s side tho
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Yeah. Your right.
As for before:
Sephiroth, from mere shockwaves from his sword alone tore apart a huge cannon,Sora cut a few buildings in half by slicing through them but that isn’t as impressive as not even touching them.
Speed, well when you fight him he basically teleports in CC so that should be obvious
Durable, He got impaled by a huge ass sword(Buster sword) and got back up didn’t he?
Intelligence, Sephiroth is a genius in battle. Hence why he is a general. He also seems very knowledgeable outside battle too.
Mabe Riku is secretly stronger than Sora?, he did one hit KO Roxas and could have killed him but dident hmmm...
Sephiroth blade beamed that Cannon his sword could be seen cutting it like a knife through hot butter so Impressive but it dousen’t prove he is stronger only his weapon is incredibly sharp a sword Sora can block with the keyblade just as Genesis did those blade beam’s (Sora also cut building’s like nothing).
Speed is good but Sora and Riku could deflect hundred’s of beam’s flying at them from all angle’s and dodge and fend of multiple Xemnes who could also teliport.
Durability is questionable as Riku took those shot’s from Xemnes weapon’s with little injury
Intel is deffinately on Seph’s side tho
Strength: Let us not forget he is the only one capable of wielding that blade correctly. His strength exceeds the ledends. The fact he was creating aftershocks from his blade shows how strong he is.
Speed: That doesn’t change the fact he is faster, they may have a good reaction to things but didn’t Sephiroth take on Angeal and the other dude pretty easily and they were going pretty fast.
Durability: I see where you get that, We have never seen Sephiroth hurt though.
1. But Cloud also can make Blade Beam’s and so can Zack and Squall, this isn’t strenth it’s an ability one witch failed to hurt Genesis who chopped the beam’s in half with his sword despite them cutting the mako cannon to bit’s.
Sora and Riku can cut building’s to bit’s and block Xemnes beam sabre’s with their keyblade’s, also Sephiroth and Cloud’s weapons.
2. Genesis and Angeal were going easy on Sephiroth as it was a training simulation, Genesis decide’s to fight Sephiroth alone later if you watch the Video and douse remarkably well against Sephiroth holding his own.
Sephiroth is faster but they can react to his speed just as Cloud and Zack did, Xemnes could teliport and Multiform and they could still react in time to deflect his hit’s (he also used hundred’s of heat beam’s on them but they deflect all of them from all angles).
Seph need’s more than speed im afraid.
He was hurt when Cloud impailed him he is seen holding his gut in pain, however Xemnes weapon’s did nothing to Riku.
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Not really. Sora did all the damage to Xemnas.
Riku simply defended Sora, for the most part.
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Not really. Sora did all the damage to Xemnas.
Riku simply defended Sora, for the most part.
Well Riku did fight of a Xemnes on his way to free Sora from Xemnes assault then proceed to nullify his lightning attack punch Xemnes in the face then spin him around tossing him aside if that count’s as damageing an opponent?
Next he saved Sora 3 time’s in that fight tossing him his keyblade stoping Xemnes assualt and blocking Xemnes attack’s on Sora twice with his body.
That’s the only reason Sora wasnt dead up untill the end of the whole fight, Riku was watching his back the whole time he wouldent even have rechived damage if he never had to cover for Sora in that battle and both made the final victory shot anyway...
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Not really. Sora did all the damage to Xemnas.
Riku simply defended Sora, for the most part.
Well Riku did fight of a Xemnes on his way to free Sora from Xemnes assault then proceed to nullify his lightning attack punch Xemnes in the face then spin him around tossing him aside if that count’s as damageing an opponent?
Next he saved Sora 3 time’s in that fight tossing him his keyblade stoping Xemnes assualt and blocking Xemnes attack’s on Sora twice with his body.
That’s the only reason Sora wasnt dead up untill the end of the whole fight, Riku was watching his back the whole time he wouldent even have rechived damage if he never had to cover for Sora in that battle and both made the final victory shot anyway...
That 'Riku saving Sora' part was not intended by the creator to be there. I’ve heard somewhere that fans wanted to play as Riku, so the developers just decided to add it without the author knowing it.
Saving Sora is irrelevant, by the way. Other characters saved Sora’s ass from danger multiple times.
No, just because Riku helped Sora to fight Xemnas does not mean he’s any stronger. Helping is hardly a proof.
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Not really. Sora did all the damage to Xemnas.
Riku simply defended Sora, for the most part.
Well Riku did fight of a Xemnes on his way to free Sora from Xemnes assault then proceed to nullify his lightning attack punch Xemnes in the face then spin him around tossing him aside if that count’s as damageing an opponent?
Next he saved Sora 3 time’s in that fight tossing him his keyblade stoping Xemnes assualt and blocking Xemnes attack’s on Sora twice with his body.
That’s the only reason Sora wasnt dead up untill the end of the whole fight, Riku was watching his back the whole time he wouldent even have rechived damage if he never had to cover for Sora in that battle and both made the final victory shot anyway...
That 'Riku saving Sora' part was not intended by the creator to be there. I’ve heard somewhere that fans wanted to play as Riku, so the developers just decided to add it without the author knowing it.
Saving Sora is irrelevant, by the way. Other characters saved Sora’s ass from danger multiple times.
No, just because Riku helped Sora to fight Xemnas does not mean he’s any stronger. Helping is hardly a proof.
They kinda Fought Xemnes together they helped each other for the win, How many time’s douse Sora have to save Riku none Riku saved Sora 3 time’s in that same fight he is better.
The same can be said if you look at Riku vs Roxas and Sora vs Roxas,
Riku K.O’s Roxas and decide’s not to kill him and own’s him again when envokeing the darkness, Sora on the other hand struggle’s and would have lost if he didn’t have that conviniant ability to summon the Keyblade
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Not really. Sora did all the damage to Xemnas.
Riku simply defended Sora, for the most part.
Well Riku did fight of a Xemnes on his way to free Sora from Xemnes assault then proceed to nullify his lightning attack punch Xemnes in the face then spin him around tossing him aside if that count’s as damageing an opponent?
Next he saved Sora 3 time’s in that fight tossing him his keyblade stoping Xemnes assualt and blocking Xemnes attack’s on Sora twice with his body.
That’s the only reason Sora wasnt dead up untill the end of the whole fight, Riku was watching his back the whole time he wouldent even have rechived damage if he never had to cover for Sora in that battle and both made the final victory shot anyway...
That 'Riku saving Sora' part was not intended by the creator to be there. I’ve heard somewhere that fans wanted to play as Riku, so the developers just decided to add it without the author knowing it.
Saving Sora is irrelevant, by the way. Other characters saved Sora’s ass from danger multiple times.
No, just because Riku helped Sora to fight Xemnas does not mean he’s any stronger. Helping is hardly a proof.
They kinda Fought Xemnes together they helped each other for the win, How many time’s douse Sora have to save Riku none Riku saved Sora 3 time’s in that same fight he is better.
The same can be said if you look at Riku vs Roxas and Sora vs Roxas,
Riku K.O’s Roxas and decide’s not to kill him and own’s him again when envokeing the darkness, Sora on the other hand struggle’s and would have lost if he didn’t have that conviniant ability to summon the Keyblade
What? Just because Riku never got in danger because all he did was stay in the sidelines is not a proof that he is stronger than Sora. Sora did all the attacking. Riku was more of a back-up.
How’s it same?
Sora beat Roxas by his own.
Riku couldn’t beat Roxas until he fully turned into Ansem-Riku, the same ability he lost right before fighting Xemnas.
I told you this already: Riku only won because of Xehanort’s darkness. It disappeared by that explosion before Xemnas fight, weakening Riku.
See how Riku can no longer use portals with the power of darkness. (Right before Xemnas airship battle)
Kyle Knight wrote:
Also am i th only one who Noticed Riku did more than Sora in that Fight.
1. Threw Sora his Keyblade to fend of Xemnes
2. Saved Sora from Xemnes assualt
3. took two blow’s from Xemnes for Sora even pushing him away from harm?
Not really. Sora did all the damage to Xemnas.
Riku simply defended Sora, for the most part.
Well Riku did fight of a Xemnes on his way to free Sora from Xemnes assault then proceed to nullify his lightning attack punch Xemnes in the face then spin him around tossing him aside if that count’s as damageing an opponent?
Next he saved Sora 3 time’s in that fight tossing him his keyblade stoping Xemnes assualt and blocking Xemnes attack’s on Sora twice with his body.
That’s the only reason Sora wasnt dead up untill the end of the whole fight, Riku was watching his back the whole time he wouldent even have rechived damage if he never had to cover for Sora in that battle and both made the final victory shot anyway...
That 'Riku saving Sora' part was not intended by the creator to be there. I’ve heard somewhere that fans wanted to play as Riku, so the developers just decided to add it without the author knowing it.
Saving Sora is irrelevant, by the way. Other characters saved Sora’s ass from danger multiple times.
No, just because Riku helped Sora to fight Xemnas does not mean he’s any stronger. Helping is hardly a proof.
They kinda Fought Xemnes together they helped each other for the win, How many time’s douse Sora have to save Riku none Riku saved Sora 3 time’s in that same fight he is better.
The same can be said if you look at Riku vs Roxas and Sora vs Roxas,
Riku K.O’s Roxas and decide’s not to kill him and own’s him again when envokeing the darkness, Sora on the other hand struggle’s and would have lost if he didn’t have that conviniant ability to summon the Keyblade
What? Just because Riku never got in danger because all he did was stay in the sidelines is not a proof that he is stronger than Sora. Sora did all the attacking. Riku was more of a back-up.
How’s it same?
Sora beat Roxas by his own.
Riku couldn’t beat Roxas until he fully turned into Ansem-Riku, the same ability he lost right before fighting Xemnas.
I told you this already: Riku only won because of Xehanort’s darkness. It disappeared by that explosion before Xemnas fight, weakening Riku.
See how Riku can no longer use portals with the power of darkness. (Right before Xemnas airship battle)
Riku was fighting right along side Sora throughout the battle dude, he save’s him help’s him deflect hundred’s of beam attack’s and finish Xemnes together.
Riku did Beat Roxas on his own, he K.O’s him and could have killed him, he envoked the darkness cus he dident have his keyblade
Actualy Riku was stronger because he had overcome the Darkness in his heart, notice both can fire the light from that Keyblade at the end
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Riku was fighting right along side Sora throughout the battle dude, he save’s him help’s him deflect hundred’s of beam attack’s and finish Xemnes together.
Riku did Beat Roxas on his own, he K.O’s him and could have killed him, he envoked the darkness cus he dident have his keyblade
Actualy Riku was stronger because he had overcome the Darkness in his heart, notice both can fire the light from that Keyblade at the end
And any other wonderful accomplishments he did with Sora other than those two dramatic cutscenes at the VERY end?
Riku helped, but Sora did most of the work.
Roxas = 1/2 Sora
Sora defeated Xehanort Riku. So it’s only natural half of Sora would be pwned by Xehanort Riku instead. Furthermore, Riku can no longer invoke darkness from his heart after Ansem’s machine exploded.
And Riku does have a keyblade. It’s not Sora’s keyblade, though.
Actually, Riku got weaker. He didn’t overcome the darkness by himself. It was Ansem’s machine’s work. (Which exploded into hell) And firing shiny stuff from your keyblade doesn’t make you more powerful.
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