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07 Jul 2008 08:06 pm
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Trackz wrote:
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Cid wrote: Alucard should be Mid Herald at the least. His powers are far to great to be low level herald. He pretty much has all the abilities of Sephiroth with the exception of Super Nova.

He’s immortal, which is linked to the number of souls he’s absorbed, and right the Major says he has the souls of about 200,000,000 (Two Hundred Million) within him.

His regeneration far surpasses that of most characters, Wolverine and Hulk included. He’s been reduced to a pool of blood and completely shredded by gunfire and was able to regenerate himself near instantly.

He has super human strength to which the extent is unknown, being able to rip human beings apart with his bare hands with no difficulty at all.

He has superhuman speed, being able to move much quicker than the eye can see, which is above supersonic levels.

He can become intangible, able to do things such as pass through walls.

He can defy gravity, he’s been seen running up walls and leaping impossibly large distances.

He can manipulate shadows into physical form.

He can shapeshift into any form. Animals, humans, and even an amorphous mass of darkness.

He can teleport.

He has telekenesis to an unknown extent. He’s been seen lifting a computer chip, reloading his gun, and throwing human bodies around with it.

Mind control. *AKA the sex beam :3*

He can summon his familiars to fight for him. His familiars are those who’s souls he has absorbed. This included humans and animals. In the manga he summoned an entire army of undead, men, weapons, and horses alike.

I *could* probably find manga scans for all of this if absolutely needed. Though I’d prefer to remain lazy.

and couldnt survive a fight with any of the mid tier character seeing most of them have the power to destroy the planet


From the characters I know a lot about from the mid tier, he could probably take on Darth Nihilus, Hulk, Juggernaut, and Goku.

I told you dude, Alucard is on the level of Sephiroth and you’ve got him at High Herald.

alucard couldnt take out juggernaut,goku, or hulk

he wouldnt be able to significantly hurt any of them, especially seeing as hulk and juggernaut are people with planet destroying strength

juggernaut could simply run through alucard and scatter him into pieces

alucard hasnt shown his speed to be anything special
His durability is defienntly pretty low
his versatility however puts him at his rank

just because a alucard can survive fights with these people doesnt mean hes on their level heck wolverine has taken on the hulk and done ok but do you see the level of difference between the two?


Come on dude, Alucard can command the darkness. He can make them become his familiar (and kill them) just by absorbing their blood. He can go intangible, he can shapeshift, and he can teleport. What’s to stop him from going intangible, enterting hulks body, shape shifting into something huge, and blowing Hulk apart, then he absorbs his blood through his skin and BAM, Hulk is dead forever. And there’s nothing that could be done because intangibility = Not able to be harmed.

You’re seriously not thinking. He could take out Hulk and Goku easily like that. And I’m damn sure he could find a way to do it with Juggs as well, even if it’s just turning into something small and getting inside him and absorbing his blood. Given Alucard’s abilities, he could do any number of things that could put him on a level to kill the likes of Superman if you really wanted to break him. I would think he deserves to AT LEAST be on whatever level you’re putting Sephiroth on.
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07 Jul 2008 09:19 pm
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Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
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Cid wrote: Alucard should be Mid Herald at the least. His powers are far to great to be low level herald. He pretty much has all the abilities of Sephiroth with the exception of Super Nova.

He’s immortal, which is linked to the number of souls he’s absorbed, and right the Major says he has the souls of about 200,000,000 (Two Hundred Million) within him.

His regeneration far surpasses that of most characters, Wolverine and Hulk included. He’s been reduced to a pool of blood and completely shredded by gunfire and was able to regenerate himself near instantly.

He has super human strength to which the extent is unknown, being able to rip human beings apart with his bare hands with no difficulty at all.

He has superhuman speed, being able to move much quicker than the eye can see, which is above supersonic levels.

He can become intangible, able to do things such as pass through walls.

He can defy gravity, he’s been seen running up walls and leaping impossibly large distances.

He can manipulate shadows into physical form.

He can shapeshift into any form. Animals, humans, and even an amorphous mass of darkness.

He can teleport.

He has telekenesis to an unknown extent. He’s been seen lifting a computer chip, reloading his gun, and throwing human bodies around with it.

Mind control. *AKA the sex beam :3*

He can summon his familiars to fight for him. His familiars are those who’s souls he has absorbed. This included humans and animals. In the manga he summoned an entire army of undead, men, weapons, and horses alike.

I *could* probably find manga scans for all of this if absolutely needed. Though I’d prefer to remain lazy.

and couldnt survive a fight with any of the mid tier character seeing most of them have the power to destroy the planet


From the characters I know a lot about from the mid tier, he could probably take on Darth Nihilus, Hulk, Juggernaut, and Goku.

I told you dude, Alucard is on the level of Sephiroth and you’ve got him at High Herald.

alucard couldnt take out juggernaut,goku, or hulk

he wouldnt be able to significantly hurt any of them, especially seeing as hulk and juggernaut are people with planet destroying strength

juggernaut could simply run through alucard and scatter him into pieces

alucard hasnt shown his speed to be anything special
His durability is defienntly pretty low
his versatility however puts him at his rank

just because a alucard can survive fights with these people doesnt mean hes on their level heck wolverine has taken on the hulk and done ok but do you see the level of difference between the two?


Come on dude, Alucard can command the darkness. He can make them become his familiar (and kill them) just by absorbing their blood. He can go intangible, he can shapeshift, and he can teleport. What’s to stop him from going intangible, enterting hulks body, shape shifting into something huge, and blowing Hulk apart, then he absorbs his blood through his skin and BAM, Hulk is dead forever. And there’s nothing that could be done because intangibility = Not able to be harmed.

You’re seriously not thinking. He could take out Hulk and Goku easily like that. And I’m damn sure he could find a way to do it with Juggs as well, even if it’s just turning into something small and getting inside him and absorbing his blood. Given Alucard’s abilities, he could do any number of things that could put him on a level to kill the likes of Superman if you really wanted to break him. I would think he deserves to AT LEAST be on whatever level you’re putting Sephiroth on.

his powers are pretty muc hidentical to darkness so theyr eon the same level

and absorbing their blood requires....drawing their blood which he couldnt from most mid tiers seeing as they are durable enough to take city exploding blasts at the LEAST

and people have tried that against hulk, alucard would kill himself seeing as hulks insides are JUST as durable as his outsides

and Im pretty sure sephiroth is a planet busting entity and on top of that more versatile, faster, and stronger

alucard would have no hope against superman sad
going inside superman? he’d die hiscells for one are super charged and his insides are durable as well (his brain can take the equivalent of 10 h-bombs or more)
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07 Jul 2008 09:47 pm
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I added tangent superman to high herald if anyone has an arguement please let me know
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07 Jul 2008 09:49 pm
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For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.
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07 Jul 2008 09:54 pm
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Trackz wrote: and absorbing their blood requires....drawing their blood which he couldnt from most mid tiers seeing as they are durable enough to take city exploding blasts at the LEAST


I ignored the rest of your post because none of it matters except for this.

Alucard can absorb blood simply by touching it. He doesn’t have to draw it through puncture wounds like your typical vampire. When Luke Valentine was killed, Alucard absorbed the blood through his feet, while his boots were on.

So therefore, he gets inside of a person, he absorbs their blood. Plain and simple. This puts him in a position to defeat a lot of the high tier characters.
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The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on
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07 Jul 2008 09:56 pm
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Trackz wrote: and Im pretty sure sephiroth is a planet busting entity and on top of that more versatile, faster, and stronger


This matters too. Cause, you know... Two of the most knowledgeable people on Sephiroth thought he should be mid herald. *Buster and myself*
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Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.
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07 Jul 2008 10:03 pm
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Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt
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07 Jul 2008 10:10 pm
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Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt


Once again, you can’t defeat what you can’t touch. I swear dude, you’re gonna get owned you try to debate this with me. All I’m saying is that both Alu and Seph should be mid herald and Cloud high meta human. I’m not trying to have Alucard take out Superman here, although he can do it if you break him enough.
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07 Jul 2008 10:12 pm
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Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt


Once again, you can’t defeat what you can’t touch. I swear dude, you’re gonna get owned you try to debate this with me. All I’m saying is that both Alu and Seph should be mid herald and Cloud high meta human. I’m not trying to have Alucard take out Superman here, although he can do it if you break him enough.

I need feats though, it would help if yo ucould make an alucard respect thread (by the way I made the superman thread before reading this it wasnt supposed to be out of spite)


but seriously I cant move him up without feats sad
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07 Jul 2008 10:13 pm
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Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt


Once again, you can’t defeat what you can’t touch. I swear dude, you’re gonna get owned you try to debate this with me. All I’m saying is that both Alu and Seph should be mid herald and Cloud high meta human. I’m not trying to have Alucard take out Superman here, although he can do it if you break him enough.

I need feats though, it would help if yo ucould make an alucard respect thread (by the way I made the superman thread before reading this it wasnt supposed to be out of spite)


but seriously I cant move him up without feats sad


I gave you feats, unless you have to have manga scans. straight
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07 Jul 2008 10:13 pm
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but now that I think about it an actualy superman vs. alucard thread could be fun, Ill let the one I posted play out first
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07 Jul 2008 10:16 pm
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Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt


Once again, you can’t defeat what you can’t touch. I swear dude, you’re gonna get owned you try to debate this with me. All I’m saying is that both Alu and Seph should be mid herald and Cloud high meta human. I’m not trying to have Alucard take out Superman here, although he can do it if you break him enough.

I need feats though, it would help if yo ucould make an alucard respect thread (by the way I made the superman thread before reading this it wasnt supposed to be out of spite)


but seriously I cant move him up without feats sad


I gave you feats, unless you have to have manga scans. straight

you gave me powers, those dont help me determine his speed (most mid high heralds are light speed or just short of it)

or his durability (which hasnt been shown to be special sad)
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07 Jul 2008 10:22 pm
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Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt


Once again, you can’t defeat what you can’t touch. I swear dude, you’re gonna get owned you try to debate this with me. All I’m saying is that both Alu and Seph should be mid herald and Cloud high meta human. I’m not trying to have Alucard take out Superman here, although he can do it if you break him enough.

I need feats though, it would help if yo ucould make an alucard respect thread (by the way I made the superman thread before reading this it wasnt supposed to be out of spite)


but seriously I cant move him up without feats sad


I gave you feats, unless you have to have manga scans. straight

you gave me powers, those dont help me determine his speed (most mid high heralds are light speed or just short of it)

or his durability (which hasnt been shown to be special sad)


I’m pretty sure that Goku, Hulk, and Juggernaut are NOWHERE near lightspeed... In fact, the latter two seem pretty slow in comparison to Alucard, who does move quicker than the eye can see. I’ll find some scans later on tomorrow to prove it.

And no, his durability isn’t anything special as to how hard it is to hurt him. However, looking at how much it takes to put him down, he seems damn near unstoppable... In the first episode along he was shot so full of holes that he looked like swiss cheese by the time it was done with. And yet he was up a second later killing the things that tried to kill him.
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07 Jul 2008 10:33 pm
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Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
The Dahaka wrote: For some reason, I think that Alucard can beat Superman. It’s possible.

how?

a fullout punch from superman would probably disintergrate alucard, superman could freeze and break him into millions of pieces, vaporize him until theres nothing left, throw him off of the planet, and so on


Intangibility. Supes can’t attack what he can’t touch.

superman reacts at faster than light speeds

alucard doesnt


Once again, you can’t defeat what you can’t touch. I swear dude, you’re gonna get owned you try to debate this with me. All I’m saying is that both Alu and Seph should be mid herald and Cloud high meta human. I’m not trying to have Alucard take out Superman here, although he can do it if you break him enough.

I need feats though, it would help if yo ucould make an alucard respect thread (by the way I made the superman thread before reading this it wasnt supposed to be out of spite)


but seriously I cant move him up without feats sad


I gave you feats, unless you have to have manga scans. straight

you gave me powers, those dont help me determine his speed (most mid high heralds are light speed or just short of it)

or his durability (which hasnt been shown to be special sad)


I’m pretty sure that Goku, Hulk, and Juggernaut are NOWHERE near lightspeed... In fact, the latter two seem pretty slow in comparison to Alucard, who does move quicker than the eye can see. I’ll find some scans later on tomorrow to prove it.

And no, his durability isn’t anything special as to how hard it is to hurt him. However, looking at how much it takes to put him down, he seems damn near unstoppable... In the first episode along he was shot so full of holes that he looked like swiss cheese by the time it was done with. And yet he was up a second later killing the things that tried to kill him.

ys but their strength and durability make up for it, and hulk is over supr sonic speed as well

and his healing factor doesnt put him up their either, it seems equal to deadpools youll notice deadpool isnt pu their with them either

being able to survive of a fight doesnt put him up their with hulk and juggernaut
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08 Jul 2008 01:33 pm
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I think Kuja(Trance) is high herald level.

feats:
Garland gave him control of a big space ship and he could actually control it without actually being on it or piloting it. (Normal form)
Bahamut is seperior to Odin in the story, Odin makes a nuclear explosion type attack(Just for referance) Kuja took a shot from Bahamut and only had a cut on his head and he even said “You even hurt me...A little."(Normal form)
He became trance, destroyed a planet in less than a minute(It is said that it perished and he destroyed it by himself, this is AFTER you see the surface razed, there is also the whole fact that as it’s collapsing and all that they say the planet will soon be destroyed so there was more damage done) -Trance form
He not only beat the invincible back to Gaia(It made it to gaia pretty damn quick) but he covered the world in mist and made a diminsional portal to Memoria. He also says he created 4 chaoses from the crystals memory. It is stated all memories in the universe are connected to the crystal so it isn’t far fetched to say he can re create anything he wants from it) -Trance Kuja
Trance Kuja also killed the party,destroyed the crystal, and fell to gaia. Later, he actually not only brings Zidane and co back to life but he takes them from Necron’s diminsion in NORMAL form in a WEAKENED state.

He has a few other feats such as the ability to create monsters from the mist instantly, Hell he even created Deathguise instantly. Also he has shown the ability to make fake clones of the party before(He did this in his palace when he tried to trick Zidane) they were in the pit, but I believe they turned out to be something else. Anyway, it was an illusionary power nonetheless.
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i was asking cause I just realised that there are so many others.....like Lucifer Morningstar
Michael the Archangel
5-D imps
Yuga Khan
the King of Tears
Clockwerx
the Eucros
the Anti-Life Entity
the Monitor and Anti-Monitor
The Source

so many more
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08 Jul 2008 06:40 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: I think Kuja(Trance) is high herald level.

feats:
Garland gave him control of a big space ship and he could actually control it without actually being on it or piloting it. (Normal form)
Bahamut is seperior to Odin in the story, Odin makes a nuclear explosion type attack(Just for referance) Kuja took a shot from Bahamut and only had a cut on his head and he even said “You even hurt me...A little."(Normal form)
He became trance, destroyed a planet in less than a minute(It is said that it perished and he destroyed it by himself, this is AFTER you see the surface razed, there is also the whole fact that as it’s collapsing and all that they say the planet will soon be destroyed so there was more damage done) -Trance form
He not only beat the invincible back to Gaia(It made it to gaia pretty damn quick) but he covered the world in mist and made a diminsional portal to Memoria. He also says he created 4 chaoses from the crystals memory. It is stated all memories in the universe are connected to the crystal so it isn’t far fetched to say he can re create anything he wants from it) -Trance Kuja
Trance Kuja also killed the party,destroyed the crystal, and fell to gaia. Later, he actually not only brings Zidane and co back to life but he takes them from Necron’s diminsion in NORMAL form in a WEAKENED state.

He has a few other feats such as the ability to create monsters from the mist instantly, Hell he even created Deathguise instantly. Also he has shown the ability to make fake clones of the party before(He did this in his palace when he tried to trick Zidane) they were in the pit, but I believe they turned out to be something else. Anyway, it was an illusionary power nonetheless.

yeah hes good

high herald really is just planet destroying level pretty much
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08 Jul 2008 06:41 pm
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Watchman wrote: i was asking cause I just realised that there are so many others.....like Lucifer Morningstar
Michael the Archangel
5-D imps
Yuga Khan
the King of Tears
Clockwerx
the Eucros
the Anti-Life Entity
the Monitor and Anti-Monitor
The Source

so many more
yeah but their powers are pretty much limitless I’d rather leave them until the end
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