vansonbee wrote:
base goku now, should be much stronger then saga freiza final form, if Freiza can destroy a planet, why not goku base*?
ssj2 is strong, so he deserve to be high herald,
ssj 3 is stronger then 2, but he can’t compete with sub-father’s so high herald is good place for ssj3 with ssj2
just place extra wording, letting people know ssj3 is stronger then 2 that all
or mid herald for ssj2 ? I guess its up to you,
more than one power determines what level they are on, he has that busting power, but he is physically weaker and slower than everyone who is high herald, at best he is mid herald ssj3
Seriously, IDK. they never really set a limit on his power, but in his weakest form he unleashed a supernova, while missing an eye, an arm, and with his blood turned to poison. He kept reality whole with his mind, he has stopped time in the entire galaxy. So I imagine it would be something like destruction of the galaxy. He has incredibly powerful psychic powers, and he could most likely send planets crazy with a casual flick. I’d say he’s mid or high herald.
Necron Lord wrote:
Seriously, IDK. they never really set a limit on his power, but in his weakest form he unleashed a supernova, while missing an eye, an arm, and with his blood turned to poison. He kept reality whole with his mind, he has stopped time in the entire galaxy. So I imagine it would be something like destruction of the galaxy. He has incredibly powerful psychic powers, and he could most likely send planets crazy with a casual flick. I’d say he’s mid or high herald.
Necron Lord wrote:
Seriously, IDK. they never really set a limit on his power, but in his weakest form he unleashed a supernova, while missing an eye, an arm, and with his blood turned to poison. He kept reality whole with his mind, he has stopped time in the entire galaxy. So I imagine it would be something like destruction of the galaxy. He has incredibly powerful psychic powers, and he could most likely send planets crazy with a casual flick. I’d say he’s mid or high herald.
forget abtract beings, they shouldnt even be used in vs. matches
Watchman wrote:
Thanos should not be surrounded with the minions that are supes, amazo, lobo etc....He is pawns everyone in that league with no exception.......
do you have context? and a weakened galactus can be beaten by thor, so yeah theyre on level (especially since i believe thor at full power has beaten thanos)
Also, I recommend the Nightbringer for low herald and the Void Dragon for mid herald.
The Nightbringer can phase out of space, making him invincible, has a scythe that can cut anything, is an i9ncarnation of death, and imprinted the fear of death on all races. It can kill stars, and if its body is destroyed it only possesses a new one. The only battle it ever lost was against a god of war, who was destroyed by the explosion of its body. It can summon hellfire from the ground and make explosions to kill its enemies.
The void dragon is somewhat like the Nightbringer, except three or four times more powerful and controls anything mechanical. Meaning guns won’t fire, vehicles don’t work, and all those implants are useless.
Necron Lord wrote:
Also, I recommend the Nightbringer for low herald and the Void Dragon for mid herald.
The Nightbringer can phase out of space, making him invincible, has a scythe that can cut anything, is an i9ncarnation of death, and imprinted the fear of death on all races. It can kill stars, and if its body is destroyed it only possesses a new one. The only battle it ever lost was against a god of war, who was destroyed by the explosion of its body. It can summon hellfire from the ground and make explosions to kill its enemies.
The void dragon is somewhat like the Nightbringer, except three or four times more powerful and controls anything mechanical. Meaning guns won’t fire, vehicles don’t work, and all those implants are useless.
nightbringer seems high herald and void dragon it probably sub-skyfather
Necron Lord wrote:
Well, actually I misspoke- the Nightbringer isn’t invincible, he phases in for striking, you just have to have superhuman reflexes to strike him.
oh ok then mid herald, I dunno where to put void dragon
Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Brolli, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Darth Nihilus, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hulk, Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Juggernaut (Classic), Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Nightbringer, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Son Goku (SSJ3), Supergirl, Supreme, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman
Tracks you want to put goku under superman and in the same category with wonder woman? after the long debate goku vds superman now you manage to put superman above :/
I accept goku has no feats but common sense he is above freeza who survive weakened and cut in half a planet explosion bigger than earth, with teleporting he will dominate all the other characters above, except supergirl and general zod maybe(because his supersenses as same like superman)and his Kamehame ha was stated that will destroy the planet earth since he was fighting Freeza who was a planet destroyer too.
Well i disagree, i think the goku vs Superman thread was declare a tie. to now put goku under him is sneaky from you, but well, is shame the Dawn lack of goku power feats after 10 years of waiting for Ubb.
Middle
Alexander Nero, Beta Ray Bill, Binary, Black Adam, Black Bolt, Brolli, Cable (Full Power), Captain Atom, Cpt. Comet, Captain Marvel (DC), Count Nefaria, Damien Hellstrom, Darth Nihilus, Evinlea, The Fallen One, Firelord, Firestorm, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), The General (Shaggy Man), General Zod, Gladiator, Green Lantern (Guy, John, Katma, Kilowog), Hulk, Hyperion, Ikaris, Imperiex Probes, Juggernaut (Classic), Kid Omega, Lobo, Loki, Magus (Post-IG), Martian Manhunter, Maxima, Metamorpho, Mon-El, Morg, Nate Grey, Nightbringer, Orion, Rachel Summers (Phoenix II), Red Shift, Sersi, Shaman, Skreet, Son Goku (SSJ3), Supergirl, Supreme, Terrax the Tamer, Void, Waverider, Wildfire, Witchfire (Demon Form), Wonder Woman
Tracks you want to put goku under superman and in the same category with wonder woman? after the long debate goku vds superman now you manage to put superman above :/
I accept goku has no feats but common sense he is above freeza who survive weakened and cut in half a planet explosion bigger than earth, with teleporting he will dominate all the other characters above, except supergirl and general zod maybe(because his supersenses as same like superman)and his Kamehame ha was stated that will destroy the planet earth since he was fighting Freeza who was a planet destroyer too.
Well i disagree, i think the goku vs Superman thread was declare a tie. to now put goku under him is sneaky from you, but well, is shame the Dawn lack of goku power feats after 10 years of waiting for Ubb.
you obviously dont know how powerful these characters are,
and superman vs. goku was one sided for a very long time and was only kept alive by the streams of dbz fanboys who poured in :/
and you apparently didnt read the notes:
Taken from KMC (credit to its members for making this), sadly it doesnt have anime characters so we can put anime characters on after, this gives a general idea where characters fit; it doesnt mean a character from a lower tier cant beat a higher one though,
Superman vs. Black Adam (who I listed the same as goku ssj3)
KMC tried allowing Anime in vs battles for a short time and it just didn’t work the forums were flooded with waves of anime fanboys mainly DBZ ones.I think he belongs in the Mid Herald level I wouldn’t put him on the level of Surfer,Superman,Hal,Kyle,Alan,Sentry,Genis.
Necron Lord wrote:
Well, actually I misspoke- the Nightbringer isn’t invincible, he phases in for striking, you just have to have superhuman reflexes to strike him.
oh ok then mid herald, I dunno where to put void dragon
Probably high herald. Note his size and the fact that the thing he is holding in his hand like a kids toy (in a pic) can destroy a city with 1 shot.
Lucian89 wrote:
KMC tried allowing Anime in vs battles for a short time and it just didn’t work the forums were flooded with waves of anime fanboys mainly DBZ ones.I think he belongs in the Mid Herald level I wouldn’t put him on the level of Surfer,Superman,Hal,Kyle,Alan,Sentry,Genis.
Agree that they are some saying stuff like Galaxy destruction and staff, but KMC forums have to me understimated DB.
Tracks i accept your perception of Goku, i just said that i disagre and why.
Well mostly Goku is put lower against this high herald levels by using the Cell was Bluffing tactic, hyperbole tactics,Saying things like Vegeta was mad, he lie when he said he will destroy the planet tactic, all this Kmc tactics.
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