The funny thing is while creationist on this site talk about using facts and what not as proff all thier facts get changed every few years and there for are not facts at all. Not only that a shit ton of things we learn is just speculation like string theory and extra dimentions and infinit universes.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
have you read this entire debate? if you have, pay more attention to what ChibiDiscoDhaos says.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
see? ChibiDiscoDhaos has most of the answers... from that point of view anyway.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
and to the people back in the 1700’s they were all this compared to the people back in the 1400’s. You want to believe that we are more advanced then we really are. People 100 years from now will say the same thing about us now and pepole 100 yeas from them will say the same thing. what you are saying is relevent to the present of any era and can be said by any era x years after
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
and to the people back in the 1700’s they were all this compared to the people back in the 1400’s. You want to believe that we are more advanced then we really are. People 100 years from now will say the same thing about us now and pepole 100 yeas from them will say the same thing. what you are saying is relevent to the present of any era and can be said by any era x years after
So you’re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
and to the people back in the 1700’s they were all this compared to the people back in the 1400’s. You want to believe that we are more advanced then we really are. People 100 years from now will say the same thing about us now and pepole 100 yeas from them will say the same thing. what you are saying is relevent to the present of any era and can be said by any era x years after
So you’re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
i think everyone is missing the point. back then they thought they know everything and what not. 50 years ago they thought they knew everything and what not. every generation thinks they know everything and have the answers to everything throught history. Its just the way it is. chibi is sounding just like this about todays world. The truth is us humans are not that smart.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
and to the people back in the 1700’s they were all this compared to the people back in the 1400’s. You want to believe that we are more advanced then we really are. People 100 years from now will say the same thing about us now and pepole 100 yeas from them will say the same thing. what you are saying is relevent to the present of any era and can be said by any era x years after
So you’re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
i think everyone is missing the point. back then they thought they know everything and what not. 50 years ago they thought they knew everything and what not. every generation thinks they know everything and have the answers to everything throught history. Its just the way it is. chibi is sounding just like this about todays world. The truth is us humans are not that smart.
then you don’t get my point, i was saying that humans conflict with religion will never cease...even if the evidence is incorrect they will still believe in it until they are proven wrong...that is how science works...
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
No straight away.. it usually takes a few months of them thinking about it... for logic to slowly over shadow blind faith.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
Khorib wrote:
So you\'re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
not outdated, updated. Better understanding of everything we already know..
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
and to the people back in the 1700’s they were all this compared to the people back in the 1400’s. You want to believe that we are more advanced then we really are. People 100 years from now will say the same thing about us now and pepole 100 yeas from them will say the same thing. what you are saying is relevent to the present of any era and can be said by any era x years after
So you’re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
i think everyone is missing the point. back then they thought they know everything and what not. 50 years ago they thought they knew everything and what not. every generation thinks they know everything and have the answers to everything throught history. Its just the way it is. chibi is sounding just like this about todays world. The truth is us humans are not that smart.
Khorib wrote:
So you\'re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
not outdated, updated. Better understanding of everything we already know..
I know, I was more just trying to find out what his point is. The thing is, if we always assume what were are doing will be wrong in the future, then we will never progress. The only reason that we believe that we are right is because our “right” answer hasn’t been proven wrong yet... and in the world of science, proving that something is wrong is called Progress!.
J peth wrote:
because they will never submit no mater what you say thus it is a stalemate...
Yeah, but there are those like Gplex that will say anything to try to persuade people to go A-wall. (see wut I did thar?)
thus they are the unstoppable object, they will not stop trying to persuade the creationists from there belief. and the unmovable object is the creationists who (the majority i mean) will not stop believing no mater what the evidence.
Explain evidence. B/c in the 1700’s they said they had all the evidence to prove that the earth was in the center and the other planets revolved around it. They even used science and models to prove/fit it. For some reason people like to think that the era they live in is so advanced that they have all the correct answers.
Nothing is for sure but you must understand We have so much more advancement and tecnology now from the 1700’s it’s not even funny. It’s also pointless to worry about what we MIGHT find an era from now. According to the evidence presented now, we have answers and conclusions drawn from them. Such as Evolution. It could be disproved tomorow, as unlikely as that is it COULD happen. It means the evidence would point a different way.
So thats about it. You must look at the present evidence. As for the earth being the center, I thought that was further back than the 1700’s and was that the church who had these models so it could fit their biblical teachings? Anyway, we have advances beyond belief since then. Not only in knowledge, but medicine,transportation,tools,clothes,homes,work conditions, safer work places,weapons,etc.
and to the people back in the 1700’s they were all this compared to the people back in the 1400’s. You want to believe that we are more advanced then we really are. People 100 years from now will say the same thing about us now and pepole 100 yeas from them will say the same thing. what you are saying is relevent to the present of any era and can be said by any era x years after
So you’re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
i think everyone is missing the point. back then they thought they know everything and what not. 50 years ago they thought they knew everything and what not. every generation thinks they know everything and have the answers to everything throught history. Its just the way it is. chibi is sounding just like this about todays world. The truth is us humans are not that smart.
Point out a race or spieces smarter.
angels, demons, spirits.......if you’re that way inclined...
Khorib wrote:
So you\'re saying that we should realize that everything we know now in the present will be outdated and worthless 100 years in the future?
not outdated, updated. Better understanding of everything we already know..
I know, I was more just trying to find out what his point is. The thing is, if we always assume what were are doing will be wrong in the future, then we will never progress. The only reason that we believe that we are right is because our “right” answer hasn’t been proven wrong yet... and in the world of science, proving that something is wrong is called Progress!.
that is what i’m saying (i said almost the same thing in my post “18 Aug 2008 10:56 pm...')
--- -And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.-Luke 4:8
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