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[Quote] #321
02 Oct 2008 08:48 am
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the Bible is the source of all things positive.....Its an awesome book....I have never found a single atheist who found a contradiction by simply reading it. All so called contradictions are usually pulled from crap atheistic websites.Actually most of people’s percep[tions of the bible are from other secondary sources and never from the book itself.I have never come across a single person who whilst reading said there was a contradiction or error Or something else. That kind of leaves me ASKING why this is. I even asked some lecturers who responded that people are extremly lazy and were usually willing to take the majority arguement. Anyways, I would like to someone post some contradictions without using some stupid website. Just something they found for themselves.
and i dont think its a book od fiction. theres just too many things in the book that go beyond humans, if you get me. there’s no way this book can be fabricated. all you have to do is to compare it to other religious text and you will see for yourself. But will and can anybosy do that. I sorta doubt it which means the lies and half truths will continue.
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02 Oct 2008 09:44 am
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dont believe lies..... wrote: the Bible is the source of all things positive.....Its an awesome book....I have never found a single atheist who found a contradiction by simply reading it. All so called contradictions are usually pulled from crap atheistic websites.Actually most of people’s percep[tions of the bible are from other secondary sources and never from the book itself.I have never come across a single person who whilst reading said there was a contradiction or error Or something else. That kind of leaves me ASKING why this is. I even asked some lecturers who responded that people are extremly lazy and were usually willing to take the majority arguement. Anyways, I would like to someone post some contradictions without using some stupid website. Just something they found for themselves.
and i dont think its a book od fiction. theres just too many things in the book that go beyond humans, if you get me. there’s no way this book can be fabricated. all you have to do is to compare it to other religious text and you will see for yourself. But will and can anybosy do that. I sorta doubt it which means the lies and half truths will continue.
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Can you really be so ignorant as to make a statement like that? I mean... really?
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dont believe lies..... wrote: the Bible is the source of all things positive.....Its an awesome book....I have never found a single atheist who found a contradiction by simply reading it. All so called contradictions are usually pulled from crap atheistic websites.Actually most of people’s percep[tions of the bible are from other secondary sources and never from the book itself.I have never come across a single person who whilst reading said there was a contradiction or error Or something else. That kind of leaves me ASKING why this is. I even asked some lecturers who responded that people are extremly lazy and were usually willing to take the majority arguement. Anyways, I would like to someone post some contradictions without using some stupid website. Just something they found for themselves.
and i dont think its a book od fiction. theres just too many things in the book that go beyond humans, if you get me. there’s no way this book can be fabricated. all you have to do is to compare it to other religious text and you will see for yourself. But will and can anybosy do that. I sorta doubt it which means the lies and half truths will continue.
peace to ya all from the hood.

Ignorance is bliss I suppose...
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05 Oct 2008 08:42 pm
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i dont believe its ignorant THOUGH i can see why there are things he said u dont agree with i just happen to agree with him but i dont hold anything against you for not
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06 Oct 2008 08:26 am
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Astro Boy X wrote: i dont believe its ignorant THOUGH i can see why there are things he said u dont agree with i just happen to agree with him but i dont hold anything against you for not


Well we thank you for that...
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06 Oct 2008 11:30 am
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its been soooooooo long....I see that no-one has really posted anything on this thread...apart from some criticisms....hehe. though these were pretty good reading....lets see, where to begin..well, well, we have a few Bible believers...Yeah
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so... we meet again...

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[Quote] #328
07 Oct 2008 11:26 pm
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I dont get why its so easy to believe there are a infinate amount of other univeres the possibility that gravity itself comes from other univeres (1 thorey being looked at) the possibility that everything is litteraly going to litteraly end EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE IS GOING TO END INTO NOTHINGNESS EVERYTHING!!!! The fact that upon contless reasons why life shouldent excsiste anywhere ever compared to the 0 reason why life should exciste in the universe ( there is no reason why we are here we litteraly are just that fucking lucky if 1 thing was different nothing would be living on this planet.) but god cant exciste God is just way to far feched to believe i mean you have to be fing stupid to believe that there is a higher entity then humans. We humans just have to be as high as anything can go nothing will ever surpass us humans. Alians will bow to us as superior
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aes wrote: I dont get why its so easy to believe there are a infinate amount of other univeres the possibility that gravity itself comes from other univeres (1 thorey being looked at) the possibility that everything is litteraly going to litteraly end EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE IS GOING TO END INTO NOTHINGNESS EVERYTHING!!!! The fact that upon contless reasons why life shouldent excsiste anywhere ever compared to the 0 reason why life should exciste in the universe ( there is no reason why we are here we litteraly are just that fucking lucky if 1 thing was different nothing would be living on this planet.) but god cant exciste God is just way to far feched to believe i mean you have to be fing stupid to believe that there is a higher entity then humans. We humans just have to be as high as anything can go nothing will ever surpass us humans. Alians will bow to us as superior

I think you got the last part backwards... most religious people believe that they are superior to all except god. I believe that we(as humans) are no more important than your pet dog.

The theory involves gravity coming from another dimension, not another universe. Again, god is an answer for those that cannot find an answer, or refuse to do the work to find one.

“god” is the answer to the unanswerable... and while there are still plenty of unanswered questions, more and more question are being answered as time goes on.
Nowadays, God is what happens when you give up...
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11 Oct 2008 09:22 am
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hahaha.... for evolution to occur it would require a very long time to do so. In order for evolution to have any weight a several billion year old earth is necessary to support the theory. At this point it would be very easy for atheist to rebutt if they could offer one proved dating system that supports our Earth over 100,000 years old......there is not one accurate dating system that can support this notion......for e.g. Tree Ring Dating, Dendrochronology........it would be nice if you atheist could find a tree over 10,000 years old just to throw the Intelligent Design/God crowd out of the mix. Tree ring dating is not disputed and very accurate. What a humorous coincidence, if one tree was found to be older than the age many literal bible interpreters hold to, the faith would be easy to dispute. Such is the case no tree has been found over 10000 years or so.........

As members of the Skeptic’s Society you guys pride yourself on being skeptical of extraordinary claims... whats more you also pride yourself on silencing everyone who is skeptical of the extraordinary claims of evolution....ne
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11 Oct 2008 09:26 am
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Watchman wrote: hahaha.... for evolution to occur it would require a very long time to do so. In order for evolution to have any weight a several billion year old earth is necessary to support the theory. At this point it would be very easy for atheist to rebutt if they could offer one proved dating system that supports our Earth over 100,000 years old......there is not one accurate dating system that can support this notion......for e.g. Tree Ring Dating, Dendrochronology........it would be nice if you atheist could find a tree over 10,000 years old just to throw the Intelligent Design/God crowd out of the mix. Tree ring dating is not disputed and very accurate. What a humorous coincidence, if one tree was found to be older than the age many literal bible interpreters hold to, the faith would be easy to dispute. Such is the case no tree has been found over 10000 years or so.........

As members of the Skeptic’s Society you guys pride yourself on being skeptical of extraordinary claims... whats more you also pride yourself on silencing everyone who is skeptical of the extraordinary claims of evolution....ne

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11 Oct 2008 11:07 am
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ok......Scientists also support biogenesis now too... This means life comes from life and does not just appear. If scientists believe this, then how can they say evolution is correct. Evolution is something came from nothing (Non-living)which means scientists know evolution is wrong but they don’t want to admit it or even give it a chance of being wrong because if a scientist came out and said we were wrong about evolution, they would be blasted and fired and lose all funding for everything...

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i dnt understand this topic, can someone explain to me plz ?
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11 Oct 2008 12:39 pm
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Watchman wrote: ok......Scientists also support biogenesis now too... This means life comes from life and does not just appear. If scientists believe this, then how can they say evolution is correct. Evolution is something came from nothing (Non-living)which means scientists know evolution is wrong but they don’t want to admit it or even give it a chance of being wrong because if a scientist came out and said we were wrong about evolution, they would be blasted and fired and lose all funding for everything...

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WRONG.
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11 Oct 2008 02:17 pm
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why dont you go deface some money by scribbling God off the dollar bill!............
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11 Oct 2008 02:19 pm
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Watchman wrote: why dont you go deface some money by scribbling God off the dollar bill!............

I rewrote the pledge of allegiance to say under Satan, Under Allah, Under logic instead of under god a few times.
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can someone exlain this topic to me plz...
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11 Oct 2008 02:28 pm
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Swift-D wrote: can someone exlain this topic to me plz...

It’s a debate between if Creation or evolution is true
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Watchman wrote: ok......Scientists also support biogenesis now too... This means life comes from life and does not just appear. If scientists believe this, then how can they say evolution is correct. Evolution is something came from nothing (Non-living)which means scientists know evolution is wrong but they don’t want to admit it or even give it a chance of being wrong because if a scientist came out and said we were wrong about evolution, they would be blasted and fired and lose all funding for everything...

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So because we dont know what started the big bang, somehow that makes every theory wrong... fail, the theory of gravity isnt wrong because no one can explain the big bang.
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Watchman wrote: ok......Scientists also support biogenesis now too... This means life comes from life and does not just appear. If scientists believe this, then how can they say evolution is correct. Evolution is something came from nothing (Non-living)which means scientists know evolution is wrong but they don’t want to admit it or even give it a chance of being wrong because if a scientist came out and said we were wrong about evolution, they would be blasted and fired and lose all funding for everything...

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Evolution is NOT about “something coming from nothing”. It is about an species becoming or creating another species... to sum it up anyway.

Life coming from non-organic matter is Abiogenesis. Even if Abiogenesis didn’t occur, it still doesn’t disprove evolution.

Another point is... and I don’t know if this is what you follow... according to the bible, god created the earth around the same time he created the universe. We can tell the universe wasn’t created within the last several million years... We KNOW this because of how far away the stars that we can see are. If we can see a star or galaxy that is far far far more than 100,000 lightyears away, then we know they have existed for at least that long.
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