| 27 Jun 2008 09:48 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE | Now I have a few people send me this, and I just want to lay it to rest.
The document they sign said:
“We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life.
Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged."
Now any scientist that is honest would have to agree, because everything in science should be approached with skepticism, and careful examination of the evidence.
This shows everyone how low the discovery institute will dive to try and get intelligent design pass peer review in straight into classrooms.
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| 27 Jun 2008 10:21 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22 Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 1,067 OFFLINE | A scientist would approach creationism with just as much skepticism.
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| 27 Jun 2008 02:24 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 29 Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,128 OFFLINE | I don’t see why they should be skeptic about evolution. It does not really have any major flaws, at least not anymore since they have discovered a few things like the missing link between man and ape.
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| 27 Jun 2008 02:52 pm |
hahahahaha Rep: 28 Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 15,077 OFFLINE | what is this? of course they are skeptical. thats their job. it means nothing. lol
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| 27 Jun 2008 09:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23 Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,898 OFFLINE | Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
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| 28 Jun 2008 07:40 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE | Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
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| 28 Jun 2008 11:47 am |
the greatest Rep: 21Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 5,792 ONLINE | for one who is so infatuated with sciences, you should know gradual evolution is both still only a theory and not the only theory for the progression and survival of species. others exist such as punctuated equlibria which holds just as much ground as gradual evolution.
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| 28 Jun 2008 09:24 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,898 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
No, it’s not. In my dreams, I can see myself in the mirror as a gigantic purple frog with fifty heads that can fly; does that mean I am a gigantic flying purple frog in real life? No... it doesn’t even mean my dream self is an actual existance at all, no matter what form it takes.
Face it, nobody has any real evidence that this existance is any closer to reality than a schizoid hallucination, an acid trip or a nightmare.
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| 29 Jun 2008 02:57 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE | Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
No, it’s not. In my dreams, I can see myself in the mirror as a gigantic purple frog with fifty heads that can fly; does that mean I am a gigantic flying purple frog in real life? No... it doesn’t even mean my dream self is an actual existance at all, no matter what form it takes.
Face it, nobody has any real evidence that this existance is any closer to reality than a schizoid hallucination, an acid trip or a nightmare.
Thats where you are wrong, in a dream, you have no choice but to take it as reality, any other course of actions is ilogical and plan just stupid.
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| 29 Jun 2008 03:25 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,898 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
No, it’s not. In my dreams, I can see myself in the mirror as a gigantic purple frog with fifty heads that can fly; does that mean I am a gigantic flying purple frog in real life? No... it doesn’t even mean my dream self is an actual existance at all, no matter what form it takes.
Face it, nobody has any real evidence that this existance is any closer to reality than a schizoid hallucination, an acid trip or a nightmare.
Thats where you are wrong, in a dream, you have no choice but to take it as reality, any other course of actions is ilogical and plan just stupid.
No. You haven’t heard of lucid dreaming, where the dreamer is self conscious that what he’s experiencing is a dream.
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| 29 Jun 2008 09:20 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE | Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
No, it’s not. In my dreams, I can see myself in the mirror as a gigantic purple frog with fifty heads that can fly; does that mean I am a gigantic flying purple frog in real life? No... it doesn’t even mean my dream self is an actual existance at all, no matter what form it takes.
Face it, nobody has any real evidence that this existance is any closer to reality than a schizoid hallucination, an acid trip or a nightmare.
Thats where you are wrong, in a dream, you have no choice but to take it as reality, any other course of actions is ilogical and plan just stupid.
No. You haven’t heard of lucid dreaming, where the dreamer is self conscious that what he’s experiencing is a dream.
Then again that is the evidence, its simple, you are trying to justify the belief in a religion the same as dreaming, your experience in any reality is far more evidence then any religion in this reality that I am in, and that I assume you are in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3RKZjSzYg[/youtube]
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| 29 Jun 2008 11:20 am |
the greatest Rep: 21Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 5,792 ONLINE | Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
No, it’s not. In my dreams, I can see myself in the mirror as a gigantic purple frog with fifty heads that can fly; does that mean I am a gigantic flying purple frog in real life? No... it doesn’t even mean my dream self is an actual existance at all, no matter what form it takes.
Face it, nobody has any real evidence that this existance is any closer to reality than a schizoid hallucination, an acid trip or a nightmare.
Thats where you are wrong, in a dream, you have no choice but to take it as reality, any other course of actions is ilogical and plan just stupid.
No. You haven’t heard of lucid dreaming, where the dreamer is self conscious that what he’s experiencing is a dream.
Then again that is the evidence, its simple, you are trying to justify the belief in a religion the same as dreaming, your experience in any reality is far more evidence then any religion in this reality that I am in, and that I assume you are in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3RKZjSzYg[/youtube]
...he’s is justifying it far more than you are justifying yours
all we can ever no for certain is that we exist “I think therefore I am” I in no way can prove that yo uaren’t a figment of my imagination, and you cant prove that i am not one of yours
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:06 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
Of course; they have a reasonless faith when it comes to their own existance and take it on without evidence, though. Yes, very skeptical. Because if they didn’t do this it might mean skepticism doesn’t always make sense if nothing can possibly be proven, which is why they pick and choose.
For me to believe I exist isnt take it on faith - or without evidence - because the evidence is me.
No, it’s not. In my dreams, I can see myself in the mirror as a gigantic purple frog with fifty heads that can fly; does that mean I am a gigantic flying purple frog in real life? No... it doesn’t even mean my dream self is an actual existance at all, no matter what form it takes.
Face it, nobody has any real evidence that this existance is any closer to reality than a schizoid hallucination, an acid trip or a nightmare.
Thats where you are wrong, in a dream, you have no choice but to take it as reality, any other course of actions is ilogical and plan just stupid.
No. You haven’t heard of lucid dreaming, where the dreamer is self conscious that what he’s experiencing is a dream.
Then again that is the evidence, its simple, you are trying to justify the belief in a religion the same as dreaming, your experience in any reality is far more evidence then any religion in this reality that I am in, and that I assume you are in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3RKZjSzYg[/youtube]
...he’s is justifying it far more than you are justifying yours
all we can ever no for certain is that we exist “I think therefore I am” I in no way can prove that yo uaren’t a figment of my imagination, and you cant prove that i am not one of yours
What? Did you watch the video? you can not prove somethign 100%.. Im sure I went over this with you already. The fact is the scientificy method is the only effective way to separate fact from fantasy.
Using the scientific method we can determin that his religion and god is bs, and does not deserve the right to claim that it exist just as much as I do.
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:10 am |
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi Rep: 31 Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,772 OFFLINE | Scientists should always be skeptical of EVERYTHING. I’m sure there are instances of theories being overturned, so every possible theory should be scientifically treated with skepticism regardless of what it is.
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:10 am |
PK3 Nli Guest | Re-do the BB-Code Gplex...
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:12 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3RKZjSzYg
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:13 am |
PK3 Nli Guest | Quote me.
[youtube]qs3RKZjSzYg[/youtube]
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:14 am |
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi Rep: 31Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 6,772 OFFLINE |
Done.
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:14 am |
PK3 Nli Guest | Thanks.
OMG HAI MAGGOT 
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| 30 Jun 2008 02:15 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 53Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,933 OFFLINE |
Thanks, I forgot it was like that on this forum.
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