| 27 Jun 2008 06:19 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | This is the most impressive display of power by the Living Tribunal.
The LT holds in one hand Two Megaverses.
Each Megaverse is a collection of Multiverses.
Just one Multiverse = an infinite amount of Universes.
(excerpt from the Official Handbook 2006)
“the REALMS with a Multiverse”
“Within the Omniverse, collections of associated REALMS from different Multiverses are referred to as Megaverses”
There was also some confusion as to a mysterious “hooded spectral Ally” that LT “Consulted” with before manipulating the Two Megaverses, it seemed to allude to the Spectre, we’ll never know what it meant for sure, in the LT’s Official Bio no mention of Spectre or the “hooded spectral ally” is mentioned when they explained the event, but a “helper” was.
In any case whether or not it was the Spectre, the LT did have a helper according to the Official Bio, but it was in the form of “Consultation” (or blah blah blah)
while the LT was the one who was physically involved.
In other words ... (LT’s power alone .... manipulated the Brothers)
“the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him,
for He is its HEART,
ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny,
a Destiny spun by His mighty hand”
“A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers
to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ...
and ONLY this Judge knows why”
I ONLY see the Living Tribunal getting the CREDIT right here.
Alpha & Omega REVOLVE on the Wheel of Destiny, a Destiny Spun by His Hand” (ONE Hand/ LT’s Hand ONLY)
NOT their Hands, “by HIS Hand”
“ A HAND (ONE Hand/ LT’s Hand ONLY) soon Opening to ALLOW TWO Brothers”
and ONLY this Judge knows why”
So the recap:
1. Alpha & Omega (the Beginning & the End) are Spun by the Living Tribunal’s Hand ALONE!
2. When the Living Tribunal’s Hand ALONE Opens it will ALLOW the Two Brothers to shape their respective Megaverses.
3. and only the Living Tribunal knows why.
Even in this Scan,
nothing is mentioned about the “hooded spectral ally” having anything to do with process on a physical level,
all that is mentioned is a “Consultation”
“HE sits at the CENTER of ALL Things,
feeling the flow of Countless Realities,
their FATE irrevocably determined through the Judgment rendered by HIS Three Faces”
“Two SIBLINGS whom the Tribunal has a place for in HIS Great Scheme of Things”
First there must be the “Consultation” with his “hooded, spectral ally”
And again, even in this Scan, it’s the Living Tribunal getting ALL the CREDIT,
and this mysterious “spectral ally” is a “Consultant” ...
HE sits at the CENTER of ALL Things
ALONE!
Countless Realities, their FATE ... determined through HIS Judgment
His Judgement Alone!
Two SIBLINGS whom the Tribunal HAS a Place for
Both Megaverses are at the mercy of the Living Tribunal, and the Living Tribunal Alone!
in HIS Great Scheme of Things”
Does it say Their great scheme?
Or HIS Great Scheme?
Why ISN’T the “hooded spectral ally” even mentioned once?
Or wait, that’s right, the “hooded spectral ally” will “Advise” LT.
Then the Living Tribunal, ACCORDING to the On Panel evidence, will DO EVERYTHING HIMSELF! [/B]
And it’s ALL CANON, according to the OHOTMU v5 (2006)
“the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS, each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse, within the larger Omniverse but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse" | |
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:19 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | The Living Tribunal was displayed on the cover of a Pink Floyed album: “Saucer”
Top left Corner. | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:23 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | The Living Tribunal can’t be lied to, even by the Living Universe itself:
“Eternity ... before the Gems Resurfaced you were the unchallenged lord of ALL That Is”
“Dispersed the Gems no longer threaten your Supremacy on this Plane,
yet you still worry”
“it is Not the IW that concerns you as much as Your Own Desires”
“YES ... Desire strongly motivates my actions”
:laugh:
Eternity lasted that entire issue trying to LIE to the LT,
in order to get his hands on the Gems. | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:23 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | The Living Tribunal holds the Phoenix Force in his hands, commands it,
then sets it free to forfill it’s purpose.
“The Phoenix KNOWS the Tribunal will NOT allow it”...
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:24 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | These are the “Magistrati” ... they work for the LT.
“We are the Magistrati, and we are here to offer you a place in our order”
“The Magistrati, AGENTS of the Living Tribunal, they ACT as His Voice”
“Jennifer don’t pass up this opportunity" | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:25 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | The Stranger could have been the Fourth Face of the Living Tribunal’s Stellar Skull:
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:25 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | I forgot to add this evidence:
“Realms lacking this Hierarchy of power are Outside the Multiverse" | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:26 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | The Living Tribunal is,
the Top of the Food Chain according to Thanos with THOTI:
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:26 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | LT calls the Universe to battle Thanos with THOTI
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:27 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | This is PIS garbage, but what the heck, it’s an appearance with a bit of action.
LT and some of the Cosmics unite to erase Galactus from existence: :laugh:
It was never accomplished because Reed surprised the Cosmic by blasting a Super Canon into the concentration of Power being unleashed into a single point by the Cosmics, the Canon was designed to used it’s target’s energies against itself, essentially “one defeating oneself”
LT and the Cosmics were blown into other Dimensions by their own power. (PIS) | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:27 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | LT hangs out in the 16th Dimension....
“A 16 Dimensional domain at the juncture of Multiversal super-space..... The process by which the fabric of existence is woven”:
Once Eternity was summoned, LT plucked the planet Earth from his being:
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:28 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | (The Living Tribunal appearances in order by release date)
Strange Tales #157 June 1967
Strange Tales #158 July 1967
Strange Tales #160 Sept. 1967
Strange Tales #163 Dec. 1967
What If the Avenger had Become Pawns of Korvac [What If? Vol.1 #32] April 1982
Rom #41 April 1983
The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe #6 June 1983
The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #7 June 1985
Secret Wars II #6 Dec. 1985
Secret Wars II #7 Jan. 1986
Mephisto Vs. The Avengers [Mephisto Vs. #4] July 1987
The Might Thor Annual #14 1989
Silver Surfer Vol.3 #31 Dec. 1989
Guardians of the Galaxy #16 Sept. 1991
The Infinity Guantlet #3 Sept. 1991
Quasar #26 Sept. 1991
Warlock and the Infinity Watch #1 Feb. 1992
The Infinity War #2 July 1992
The Infinity War #3 Aug. 1992
Quasar #37 Aug. 1992
The Infinity War #4 Sept. 1992
Quasar #38 Sept. 1992
The Infinity War #5 Oct. 1992
Warlock and the Infinity Watch #9 Oct. 1992
Warlock and the Infinity Watch #11 Dec. 1992
The Warlock Chronicles #1 July 1993
Quasar #50 Sept. 1993
Quaser #51 Oct. 1993
The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Master Edition #33 1993
Guardians of the Galaxy #44 Jan. 1994
Guradians of the Galaxy #45 Feb. 1994
Guradians of the Galaxy #46 March 1994
Guradians of the Galaxy #47 April 1994
Quasar #57 April 1994
Guradians of the Galaxy #48 May 1994
Quasar #58 May 1994
Guradians of the Galaxy #49 June 1994
Guradians of the Galaxy #50 July 1994
Fantastic Four Annual #27 1994
The Secret Defenders #25 March 1995
The Silver Surfer/Rune #1 June 1995
The Silver Surfer/Rune #2 Aug 1995
DC Versus Marvel #1 Feb 1996
Marvel Versus DC #2 March 1996
DC Versus Marvel #4 May 1996
The Adventures of the X-Men #12 March 1997
Avataars: Covenant of the Shield#1 Sept. 2000
Avataars: Covenant of the Shield #2 Oct. 2000
Avataars: Covenant of the Shield #3 Nov. 2000
X-Men Forever #1 Jan. 2001
The Might Thor Vol.2 #41 Nov. 2001
Marvel Universe: The End #4 June 2003
Marvel Universe: The End #5 July 2003
Marvel Universe: The End #6 Aug. 2003
She-Hulk #7 Nov. 2004
Other appearances:
Fantastic Four Annual #23
What If Vol. 2 #6
Doctor Strange, Sorcerer Supreme #21
Fantasic Four Annual #23
GLA #3
Strange Tales #159
What If... Vol.2 #6
X-Men Forever #3
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| 27 Jun 2008 06:29 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | No where in that issue did Phoenix threaten the Multi-verse, Sym & Madelyn Prior (who is Jean Grey’s clone) with the help of Dr Doom & Reed Richards were the ONLY threats to the Multi-verse during that story. The Phoenix Force may have threatened that Alternate Reality at best.
Sym and Madelyn Prior (Jean Grey’s clone) were the true threats,
They opened a Dimensional Rift between LIMBO and EARTH that caused a great UNBALANCE called the “Limbo Effect”
“Phoenix...Despite her great power, was DEFEATED by Demons, who transformed her into a mannequin in a Shop Window”
Reed Richards and Dr Doom were their lackeys, and together they built a machine that could expand the “Limbo Effect”,,,, thereby granting Sym and Pryor access to the whole Multi-verse for takeover, without being interfered by anyone.
“Your Machine will be soon ready”
“In a matter of days, the Multi-verse itself will worship you”
“Same Spell which cuts this Dimension off from Intervention by OUTER Dimensional Forces”
“ALSO prevents us from attaining out Ultimate Goal, the EXTENSION of LIMBO to ALL the PLANES of the MULTI-VERSE, Richard’s and Doom’s MACHINE will MAGNIFY the Limbo Effect without opening us to OUTER Dimensional attack”
This was the Multiversal THREAT .... NOT Phoenix!
continues in the next post... | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:29 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | continues...
This Alternate Universe was already unbalanced because of Sym & Madelyn,
“with Earth’s PLANE so Unbalanced Mystically, due to it’s convergence with Limbo ... it is only a matter of time before the Living Tribunal arrives”
“the Tribunal’s role is to ensure the Balance of the Mystic Energies in the Multi-verse”
“even if it means Destroying our Planet, or our entire Universe”
So before that happens, Dr Strange convinces Rachel to summon the Phoenix Force in it’s ENTIRETY, (“if we can summon it ALL”  to cleanse the Earth before LT arrives who will Destory the Earth, or the Universe if he has to to safeguard the Multi-verse.
The FULL Phoenix Force is summoned:
“the awesome Entity THAT IS the FORCE hears and responds from it’s place out in the Cosmos”
Then Madelyn realizes what Rachel’s doing so before the Phoenix reaches Earth, Madelyn begins to take control of the Phoenix Force aswell:
This is amusing, two Mutants MANIPULATING the FULL Phoenix Force in a psionic tug of war.
Sym is killed by Mordo after losing power fighting Strange, so Madelyn now sets her eyes on “THIS UNIVERSE” as she says, since the Multiversal takeover is now over, and ALL the power of the FULL Phoenix Force is not going to set that dream back in motion.
Madelyn gets the upper hand and takes control of the FULL Phoenix Force:
“I’ve got no competition for dominion over THIS Universe, for the power of the Phoenix is here and mine”
And as always, a being with the FULL power of the Phoenix Force is killed by getting stabbed once, with Wolverines claws (he sent Jean six feet under too right?)
Sym reanimated Wolverines bones (who had died) and killed Madelyn.
The Phoenix switches masters now and Rachel ends up controlling the FULL Phoenix Force, Rachel seems to instigate the Phoenix at the behest of Dr Strange,
So the Phoenix Force burned away (or purified) the Earth, leaving it in a prehistoric age, giving Humanity a second chance.
Much of Earth’s population died in the process,
but Rachel and Strange survived along with others.
continues in the next post.... | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:30 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | continues....
SO what does,
“the Phoenix knows the Tribunal WILL NOT ALLOW it to return to the Planet or a Human Host, knows that much as it loves having a Human Host, no Human can long SAFELY contain the power, and though the Phoenix feels denied, it also knows that, for the sake of the Multi-verse, it must today heed”
This Alternate Reality/Universe is in danger of a Human Host mis-using the Power of the Phoenix Force, this can lead to a Mystically Unbalanced Universe, which would threaten the Multiversal balance,
just like Strange said,
“with Earth’s PLANE so Unbalanced Mystically, due to it’s convergence with Limbo ... it is only a matter of time before the Living Tribunal arrives
the Tribunal’s role is to ensure the Balance of the Mystic Energies in the Multi-verse,
even if it means Destroying our Planet, or our entire Universe”
So any Universe Mystically Unbalanced can threaten the Multi-verse, this is what they were referring to, NOT the Phoenix Force’s power directly.
Once the Phoenix Force came into the picture in this issue, which was more than half way through, the only concern was for the Universe,
NOT the Multi-verse which was ONLY threatened by Sym’s and Madelyn’s Limbo Effect with help from a machine Reed and Doom built that would EXPAND the Limbo Effect across the Multi-verse. | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:30 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | | |
| 27 Jun 2008 06:31 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | By order of The Living Tribunal himself, this thread has ended. | |
| 26 Sep 2008 07:56 am |
papamidnite420 Guest | korvac didnt have help from death i got that book he sheilded off his earth from the final judgement of the lt and even the lt said his power was greater than his.......but u must not have read the book cuz he had tha power = to galactus already.......then he killed galactus the gardner the stranger the in betweener and took their power and added it to his own.....along with the high evolutionary’s god helmet........how the stalemate ended was when korvac used the nullifier and destroyed the universe korvac was wayyyyy stronger than death in the end he absorbed the entire population and the shaper of worlds power.......he then became 1 with eternity and death showed up and said wat she said then he blew up the universe........and the lt couldnt beat protege himself so he went to that celestial for help cuz he couldnt pass judgement on him......then the celestial beat the shit outta him.....since celestials r not governed by the tribunal like every1 else is.........he needed him to beat protege so he could pass judgement on him.....lt is a physical being and it is said all celestials r physically the most powerful beings in the marvel universe.........their the only ppl with everything incalculable......they created a race that fought and beat on the norse and olypian gods.....the dreaming celestial has been sleepin for millions and millions of yrs depowered but woke up saying as weak as i am now i can still destroy a galaxy with but a thought........and their’s 100s of celestials mayb more its a race........ | |
| 30 Sep 2008 05:26 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | great thread... ---

“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | |
| 26 Oct 2008 02:11 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 21  Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,520 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
great thread...
Yet, you still think Seiya cast has chance against this being? Oh please~ | |
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