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thats why its current espada vs aizen

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Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote: thats why its current espada vs aizen


if currently I believe Aizen win hand down, ranking from 5 to 10 espada only XD

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espada 4-1 pwns

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28 Jun 2008 10:53 am
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Espada=Vasto Lorde

See the anime. It’s in the so called 'hollow dictionary.'
Vasto Lorde hollows are any hollow with broken mask. (Or part of it) And they look like humans.

All Arrancars are Vasto Lorde except Number 9.

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Last edited 28 Jun 2008 10:56 am by LordMarluxia
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Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote: none of the espada are vasto lords


ok, I just read the wiki on Bleach

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_(Bleach)#Arrancar
-Pretty much most Espada so far 1-10 evolve from Adjuchas.

-Their a chance that some of the espada are Vasto Lord,zero information been revealed of that.

* I am throwing out a limb and saying 1-4 rank are Vasto Lord(This is my own thought)

But I do agree that most of the currently espada are adjunchas and Aizen can beat rank 5 to 10 for sure.


You’d be better of using the manga, since wikipedia can be edited to anyone’s desires, making the statements there fake.


bump, well can’t really take anime in as manga might differ

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vansonbee wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote: none of the espada are vasto lords


ok, I just read the wiki on Bleach

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_(Bleach)#Arrancar
-Pretty much most Espada so far 1-10 evolve from Adjuchas.

-Their a chance that some of the espada are Vasto Lord,zero information been revealed of that.

* I am throwing out a limb and saying 1-4 rank are Vasto Lord(This is my own thought)

But I do agree that most of the currently espada are adjunchas and Aizen can beat rank 5 to 10 for sure.


You’d be better of using the manga, since wikipedia can be edited to anyone’s desires, making the statements there fake.


bump, well can’t really take anime in as manga might differ


You’d be better using manga, since the anime is full of fillers and such.

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Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote: none of the espada are vasto lords


ok, I just read the wiki on Bleach

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_(Bleach)#Arrancar
-Pretty much most Espada so far 1-10 evolve from Adjuchas.

-Their a chance that some of the espada are Vasto Lord,zero information been revealed of that.

* I am throwing out a limb and saying 1-4 rank are Vasto Lord(This is my own thought)

But I do agree that most of the currently espada are adjunchas and Aizen can beat rank 5 to 10 for sure.


You’d be better of using the manga, since wikipedia can be edited to anyone’s desires, making the statements there fake.


bump, well can’t really take anime in as manga might differ


You’d be better using manga, since the anime is full of fillers and such.



fillers are kind of boring

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Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote: none of the espada are vasto lords


ok, I just read the wiki on Bleach

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_(Bleach)#Arrancar
-Pretty much most Espada so far 1-10 evolve from Adjuchas.

-Their a chance that some of the espada are Vasto Lord,zero information been revealed of that.

* I am throwing out a limb and saying 1-4 rank are Vasto Lord(This is my own thought)

But I do agree that most of the currently espada are adjunchas and Aizen can beat rank 5 to 10 for sure.


You’d be better of using the manga, since wikipedia can be edited to anyone’s desires, making the statements there fake.


bump, well can’t really take anime in as manga might differ


You’d be better using manga, since the anime is full of fillers and such.


Bount is the only filler arc.
Everything else is almost exactly the same as manga.

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LordMarluxia wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
vansonbee wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote: none of the espada are vasto lords


ok, I just read the wiki on Bleach

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollow_(Bleach)#Arrancar
-Pretty much most Espada so far 1-10 evolve from Adjuchas.

-Their a chance that some of the espada are Vasto Lord,zero information been revealed of that.

* I am throwing out a limb and saying 1-4 rank are Vasto Lord(This is my own thought)

But I do agree that most of the currently espada are adjunchas and Aizen can beat rank 5 to 10 for sure.


You’d be better of using the manga, since wikipedia can be edited to anyone’s desires, making the statements there fake.


bump, well can’t really take anime in as manga might differ


You’d be better using manga, since the anime is full of fillers and such.


Bount is the only filler arc.
Everything else is almost exactly the same as manga.


Well then, never mind.

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LordMarluxia wrote: Espada=Vasto Lorde

See the anime. It’s in the so called 'hollow dictionary.'
Vasto Lorde hollows are any hollow with broken mask. (Or part of it) And they look like humans.

All Arrancars are Vasto Lorde except Number 9.


Not true if you recall the fight between Ichigo and Grimmjow; where Grimmjow explains things we find out the Menos Grande have three sub groups. Gillian, Adjuchas, and Vasto Lorde. Grimmjow wsa a Adjuchas. And most likely # 5,6,7,8,and 10are Adjuchas seeing that Ulquiorra is the only one as of now whom has a mask that appears to be Vasto Lorde


LordMarluxia wrote: Bount is the only filler arc.
Everything else is almost exactly the same as manga.


Thats not true if you read the manga closely you’ll see little filler arcs here and their like the current story with the new 3rd division captain or the one with the multiplying Arracar

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Chaos Theory wrote: Not true if you recall the fight between Ichigo and Grimmjow; where Grimmjow explains things we find out the Menos Grande have three sub groups. Gillian, Adjuchas, and Vasto Lorde. Grimmjow wsa a Adjuchas. And most likely # 5,6,7,8,and 10are Adjuchas seeing that Ulquiorra is the only one as of now whom has a mask that appears to be Vasto Lorde


My mistake. Not all arrancars are Vasto Lorde. Totally forgot about Adjuschas.

Tell me, though, where it says Grimmjow is Adjuschas. Link/proof. I think he is Vasto Lorde because...

I think people are getting confused with this VL menos class thing. From my view, all current Espada and previous Espada except #9 were VL class menos. Grimmjow is definately a VL menos as Shawlong said it himself that Grimmjow was destined to continue on evolving into a VL. Just because they showed a flash back of Grimmjow as Adjuchas doesn’t mean he never evolved into a VL.

When an Arrancar releases their sword they revert back to their previous form as a Hollow. You can determine which class menos they were previously just by looking at the size of their released form.

Human size release forms: (VL Class)

Former Espada: Dordonii, Thunderwich, Afro, Nel

Current Espada: # Nnoitra, Grimmjow, Zommari Leroux, Szayel Aporro Granz

All of their releases were of human shape form, even the former espada. Human shape form doesn’t mean they’ll look human when release, it’s just their bodies are of same shape or size as a human.

Medium size release forms: (Adjuchas class)

Shawlong, Edrad, Yylfordt Granz, Tesla

Even though they look human as an Arrancar but when released they no longer look human or come close to human sized or shape.


Huge release forms: (Gillian Class)

Aaroniero Arruruerie

This is probably the only Gillian release form we’ve seen. I was thinking maybe Grand Fisher was a Gillian Arrancar also.

Quote from Ishida in Bleach Chapter 144 (Anime) 11 mins

“Apparently the group that Grimmjow brought with him were a mixture of Gillian to Adjuchas class Arrancar. When Menos Grande breaks its mask and becomes Arrancar, it usually takes on a human like body. But only the most powerful class, the Vasto Lorde, have 100% chance of successfully taking on human shape. A large number of the other two classes aren’t able to fully take on a human form after becoming Arrancar and the lower their intelligence is, the more they resemble ordinary hollows.“



Chaos Theory wrote: Thats not true if you read the manga closely you’ll see little filler arcs here and their like the current story with the new 3rd division captain or the one with the multiplying Arracar


Got too lazy and didn’t bother to add them.
3rd Division Captain arc is the recent one, and I thought the multiplying Arrancars were not fillers. Oh, well. :/

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http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-284-page-11.html

here ya go where we fing out that Grimmjow is a Adjuchas

And I’ll agree that it never said that he stayed an Adjuchas, but it also never says he became a VL the only Arracar that we can assume is a VL is Ulquiorra due to what his broken mask resembles, as far as appearance goes Szayel didn’t look anything human when he released his Zanpaktou

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Chaos Theory wrote: http://manga.bleachexile.com/bleach-chapter-284-page-11.html

here ya go where we fing out that Grimmjow is a Adjuchas


That was a flashback. Grimmjow changed.

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Sorry I was editing my post after I went back and read all of yours, I’ll agree that; that was a flash back, but Tite never confirms or denies that Grimmjow went on to become a VL, to be perfectly honest it would make sense that the lower five espada be Adjuchas and Gillian class menos grande seeing how Aizen has always worked.

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then maybe only one is a vasto lord?

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20 Sep 2008 03:30 am
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Of course Aizen wins. Didn’t you see the episode where he made Grimmjow collapse to ground by just releasing a tiny bit of his reiatsu? If he went all out, he would slaughter them all. Aizen is the guy that stopped Bankai Ichigo’s blade with one finger and then brutally defeated him. He’s also the one that instantly defeated Captain Komamura as well, and he stated that at that time, he DIDN’T PERFORM THE KIDOU CORRECTLY. This is out of the question.

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i think Aizen...but i’m not sure...

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