| 29 Jun 2008 11:24 am |
the greatest Rep: 26 Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | doesnt really have to do with religio nand htis might be moved, but I want to know how some people believe all actions made are derived from primitive instincts ---
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Guardian of MvC Rep: 85 Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker. ---
 | | | 29 Jun 2008 11:29 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 11:33 am |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
Last edited 29 Jun 2008 11:35 am by Cid | | | 29 Jun 2008 11:37 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 11:41 am |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
If they’re not relying on instinct it means they’re making free choices. Anything that goes against your instincts can’t be an instinct. Right? If I’m wrong, please explain.
Last edited 29 Jun 2008 11:42 am by Cid | | | 29 Jun 2008 12:07 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
If they’re not relying on instinct it means they’re making free choices. Anything that goes against your instincts can’t be an instinct. Right? If I’m wrong, please explain.
initially yes, but if its done frequently enough I woudl think tha the action that once went against instincts would become a thoughtless reaction which is most similar to an instinct
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 12:15 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
If they’re not relying on instinct it means they’re making free choices. Anything that goes against your instincts can’t be an instinct. Right? If I’m wrong, please explain.
initially yes, but if its done frequently enough I woudl think tha the action that once went against instincts would become a thoughtless reaction which is most similar to an instinct
I’d more accurately describe it as a habit. Hard to break, based on the same principal, but most definitely not an instinct.
| | | 29 Jun 2008 01:23 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
If they’re not relying on instinct it means they’re making free choices. Anything that goes against your instincts can’t be an instinct. Right? If I’m wrong, please explain.
initially yes, but if its done frequently enough I woudl think tha the action that once went against instincts would become a thoughtless reaction which is most similar to an instinct
I’d more accurately describe it as a habit. Hard to break, based on the same principal, but most definitely not an instinct.
well the two are almost interchangeable, a reactive process that occurs without consious knowledge of it.
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 02:07 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31 Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,255 OFFLINE | I believe everything we do is caused by a specific instinct, since everything we do deals with some sort of emotion, which is caused by an instinct. ---
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the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
I believe everything we do is caused by a specific instinct, since everything we do deals with some sort of emotion, which is caused by an instinct.
how we react to emotions arent instincts
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Last edited 29 Jun 2008 03:56 pm by Trackz | | | 29 Jun 2008 05:45 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,255 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
I believe everything we do is caused by a specific instinct, since everything we do deals with some sort of emotion, which is caused by an instinct.
how we react to emotions arent instincts
Alot of the times they are. For instance, you are hungry, so you want to get food, that is instinct.
| | | 29 Jun 2008 05:51 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
Trackz wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
I believe everything we do is caused by a specific instinct, since everything we do deals with some sort of emotion, which is caused by an instinct.
how we react to emotions arent instincts
Alot of the times they are. For instance, you are hungry, so you want to get food, that is instinct.
yes, buut most other emotions and how you react to them arent instincts
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 05:53 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 31Joined: 06 May 2007 Posts: 3,255 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Trackz wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
I believe everything we do is caused by a specific instinct, since everything we do deals with some sort of emotion, which is caused by an instinct.
how we react to emotions arent instincts
Alot of the times they are. For instance, you are hungry, so you want to get food, that is instinct.
yes, buut most other emotions and how you react to them arent instincts
You are missing my point it seems. I am saying everything we do is connected to some kind of instinct. Emotions are instinctual. Feelings are instinctual. Everything we do is connected to some kind of feeling or emotion which is an instinct. Our brain then works to satisfy that instinct.
| | | 29 Jun 2008 06:39 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
well the two are almost interchangeable, a reactive process that occurs without consious knowledge of it.
No, I don’t think so. An instinct is something that is unlearned, inherited one would say. A habit is formed through doing it for an extended period of time.
petrofsky wrote:
You are missing my point it seems. I am saying everything we do is connected to some kind of instinct. Emotions are instinctual. Feelings are instinctual. Everything we do is connected to some kind of feeling or emotion which is an instinct. Our brain then works to satisfy that instinct.
I don’t think one instinct would drive a person to disobey the most primitive and necessary of instincts, to survive. So I highly doubt emotions are instincts, just more like reactions to chemical imbalances, blah, blah, blah.
| | | 29 Jun 2008 06:51 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
well the two are almost interchangeable, a reactive process that occurs without consious knowledge of it.
No, I don’t think so. An instinct is something that is unlearned, inherited one would say. A habit is formed through doing it for an extended period of time.
petrofsky wrote:
You are missing my point it seems. I am saying everything we do is connected to some kind of instinct. Emotions are instinctual. Feelings are instinctual. Everything we do is connected to some kind of feeling or emotion which is an instinct. Our brain then works to satisfy that instinct.
I don’t think one instinct would drive a person to disobey the most primitive and necessary of instincts, to survive. So I highly doubt emotions are instincts, just more like reactions to chemical imbalances, blah, blah, blah.
yeah I get what youre saying, youre right.
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 08:15 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
If they’re not relying on instinct it means they’re making free choices. Anything that goes against your instincts can’t be an instinct. Right? If I’m wrong, please explain.
initially yes, but if its done frequently enough I woudl think tha the action that once went against instincts would become a thoughtless reaction which is most similar to an instinct
Are you programmer...??? People cant create program by instinct... it needs THINKING... people must not say “I think said that the math is good and the black hole exist”..." but instead they must say “my instinct said that the math is good and the black hole exist”...
I think must be replaced by my instinct...
anyone of you agree with that...???
What makes us diff with animals if our reaction diff than them...???
Animals = Instinct
Human = Instinct
Human <> Thinking...
1 + 1 = 3 ... My instinct said that is correct...
 
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 29 Jun 2008 08:28 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
It’s impossible for ALL actions made to be the product of primitive instinct. Actions taken to deliberately harm oneself is going against the instinct of survival, so yah. Anybody who believes that is one stupid ass mother fucker.
not exaaaactly, once an action is done enough times that it becomes a reaction to an emoition (such as cutting ones wrist) it is comparable to an instinct you could say
Maybe, however it isn’t an instinct the first time. It becomes a created instinct, not a natural one. And I don’t even believe it really becomes instinct because it’s made freely of one’s own choice and still goes against the most basic of instincts, survival. That instinct always overrides any other instincts, and such would be the case with suicides, and other self harming things that may have become a self created instinct.
well a human is different than most anilmals, it, unlike other animals, can’t rely purely on basic instinct since many of them have been pulled away with time
If they’re not relying on instinct it means they’re making free choices. Anything that goes against your instincts can’t be an instinct. Right? If I’m wrong, please explain.
initially yes, but if its done frequently enough I woudl think tha the action that once went against instincts would become a thoughtless reaction which is most similar to an instinct
Are you programmer...??? People cant create program by instinct... it needs THINKING... people must not say “I think said that the math is good and the black hole exist”..." but instead they must say “my instinct said that the math is good and the black hole exist”...
I think must be replaced by my instinct...
anyone of you agree with that...???
What makes us diff with animals if our reaction diff than them...???
Animals = Instinct
Human = Instinct
Human <> Thinking...
1 + 1 = 3 ... My instinct said that is correct...
....this post shows zero reading comprehension, otherwise you wouldve read the thread and seen that I was in agreement with you
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| | | 29 Jun 2008 09:28 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | Thinking <> Instinct...
Computer said that 1 + 1 = 3...
Do you believe computer is scientific product... then sciences goes wrong...
1 + 1 = 2 ---
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 29 Jun 2008 09:36 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Thinking <> Instinct...
Computer said that 1 + 1 = 3...
Do you believe computer is scientific product... then sciences goes wrong...
1 + 1 = 2
...oh wow
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