Zell can derail a train with his punch so he would fuck Cloud up dude, but yea if he can cover the planet in 3 second’s he is much faster than Cloud, like i said he is doing about 10-11 hit’s a second so he could match Cloud’s speed in Omnislash no doubt
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Zell can derail a train with his punch so he would fuck Cloud up dude, but yea if he can cover the planet in 3 second’s he is much faster than Cloud, like i said he is doing about 10-11 hit’s a second so he could match Cloud’s speed in Omnislash no doubt
But like I said, Zell has to be weakened to use limit breaks, giving him an aura and no giving Cloud a limit break is unfair and by te time Zell uses that item he would be dead from omnislash
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Zell can derail a train with his punch so he would fuck Cloud up dude, but yea if he can cover the planet in 3 second’s he is much faster than Cloud, like i said he is doing about 10-11 hit’s a second so he could match Cloud’s speed in Omnislash no doubt
But like I said, Zell has to be weakened to use limit breaks, giving him an aura and no giving Cloud a limit break is unfair and by te time Zell uses that item he would be dead from omnislash
Cloud and Zell have all their ability’s and item’s and Zell has Aura’s Cloud dousent it’s fact, and Cloud need’s to rechive damage to use Omnislash Zell only need’s to use aura and he win’s.
If we use no item’s that’s fair but in fair logic term’s both could use limit’s at will as it’s their tech’s lol
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Zell can derail a train with his punch so he would fuck Cloud up dude, but yea if he can cover the planet in 3 second’s he is much faster than Cloud, like i said he is doing about 10-11 hit’s a second so he could match Cloud’s speed in Omnislash no doubt
But like I said, Zell has to be weakened to use limit breaks, giving him an aura and no giving Cloud a limit break is unfair and by te time Zell uses that item he would be dead from omnislash
Cloud and Zell have all their ability’s and item’s and Zell has Aura’s Cloud dousent it’s fact, and Cloud need’s to rechive damage to use Omnislash Zell only need’s to use aura and he win’s.
If we use no item’s that’s fair but in fair logic term’s both could use limit’s at will as it’s their tech’s lol
Actually in the last battle Cloud automatically gets omnislash sooo. With no damage or items or anything
lmao you think Materia set up pwn’s the Junction system i find that lol worthy, how is Cloud going to kill Zell before he douse it, Zell is a way better stronger faster hand to hand combatent he would slap the shit out of Cloud’s wimpy ass
Cloud deestroys Zell, if we are using materia, then it’s insta-pwn to Cloud “Pre Emtive Attack” or something similar.
Zell has to get a beating to use a limit break, all you need to to do is just piss Cloud off and it’s over, Cloud isn’t going to wait for Zell to become nearly dead, he doesn’t play with his dinner. Yes Zell derailed a train, Cloud has smacked down Bahamut like it was a bitch, dodged lightning, bullets, point blankers, warp speeders, soared through mega flare. And beaten Sephiroth.
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WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Im sure Zell has counter also, plus if you set up the junction perfectly Zell can have 3 go’s before any foe due to his speed being that much higher.
If you go logicaly then Cloud dousent use materia and we take away Zell’s magic for fairness sake, witch mean’s both can attack freely, im not sure how this would play out tho cus Cloud win’s if he hit’s him with the 1st Tsurugi and Zell pwn’s in HTH Combat.
It depend’s if you look at it ingame Buster Cloud also need’s to take a beating, but Zell only need’s to use Auro and he get’s insta limit break.
Cloud used a LIMIT BREAK to smack down Bahamut Zell could naturaly derail a train without surpassing his limit’s he is alot stronger than Cloud in pysical id give him that, as for speed Zell can run around the planet in 3 second’s witch s pretty broken so he is alot faster aswell not to mention combo up over 10-11 strike’s per second so it’s pretty dam close If Cloud was useing Omnislash.
Ultimacia was>Sephiroth in term’s or raw power she made fiction fact could warp reality and pluck you from time so defeating her was alotmore impressive really.
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Cloud deestroys Zell, if we are using materia, then it’s insta-pwn to Cloud “Pre Emtive Attack” or something similar.
Zell has to get a beating to use a limit break, all you need to to do is just piss Cloud off and it’s over, Cloud isn’t going to wait for Zell to become nearly dead, he doesn’t play with his dinner. Yes Zell derailed a train, Cloud has smacked down Bahamut like it was a bitch, dodged lightning, bullets, point blankers, warp speeders, soared through mega flare. And beaten Sephiroth.
Most of that was useing limit break’s Braver knocked Bahamut down and Climhazard killed Bahamut Sin, in the Ultimania it said if you watch Cloud get’s a blue Glow around him and his sword when useing Limit Break’s, witch Zell own’s the poor MoFuck in were speed and strenth are consirned.
Im sure Zell has counter also, plus if you set up the junction perfectly Zell can have 3 go’s before any foe due to his speed being that much higher.
Since when?
If you go logicaly then Cloud dousent use materia and we take away Zell’s magic for fairness sake, witch mean’s both can attack freely, im not sure how this would play out tho cus Cloud win’s if he hit’s him with the 1st Tsurugi and Zell pwn’s in HTH Combat.
Meh
It depend’s if you look at it ingame Buster Cloud also need’s to take a beating, but Zell only need’s to use Auro and he get’s insta limit break.
Didn’t need to do it at the end against Sephiroth and this is comfirmed by AC.
Cloud used a LIMIT BREAK to smack down Bahamut Zell could naturaly derail a train without surpassing his limit’s he is alot stronger than Cloud in pysical id give him that, as for speed Zell can run around the planet in 3 second’s witch s pretty broken so he is alot faster aswell not to mention combo up over 10-11 strike’s per second so it’s pretty dam close If Cloud was useing Omnislash.
How would Zell even land a punch on Cloud? And his run around the world limit break is very fast, but again he’d have to wait for a beating. And so what if Cloud used a limit break? I could easily say when Zell uses them, how comes the opponenets doesn’t fly off the screen? Omnislash is intant, and doesn’t require getting owned first.
Ultimacia was>Sephiroth in term’s or raw power she made fiction fact could warp reality and pluck you from time so defeating her was alotmore impressive really.
She’s physically weaker than Sephiroth, and the last time I checked, Ultimecia fought ALL of the squad, Cloud solos Sephiroth.
Most of that was useing limit break’s Braver knocked Bahamut down and Climhazard killed Bahamut Sin, in the Ultimania it said if you watch Cloud get’s a blue Glow around him and his sword when useing Limit Break’s, witch Zell own’s the poor MoFuck in were speed and strenth are consirned.
I never said it wasnt limit break =P How does he own in speed when he only runs around the world in a limit break? and you forget that Omnislash is instant. Cloud has better reflexes.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Im sure Zell has counter also, plus if you set up the junction perfectly Zell can have 3 go’s before any foe due to his speed being that much higher.
Since when?
If you go logicaly then Cloud dousent use materia and we take away Zell’s magic for fairness sake, witch mean’s both can attack freely, im not sure how this would play out tho cus Cloud win’s if he hit’s him with the 1st Tsurugi and Zell pwn’s in HTH Combat.
Meh
It depend’s if you look at it ingame Buster Cloud also need’s to take a beating, but Zell only need’s to use Auro and he get’s insta limit break.
Didn’t need to do it at the end against Sephiroth and this is comfirmed by AC.
Cloud used a LIMIT BREAK to smack down Bahamut Zell could naturaly derail a train without surpassing his limit’s he is alot stronger than Cloud in pysical id give him that, as for speed Zell can run around the planet in 3 second’s witch s pretty broken so he is alot faster aswell not to mention combo up over 10-11 strike’s per second so it’s pretty dam close If Cloud was useing Omnislash.
How would Zell even land a punch on Cloud? And his run around the world limit break is very fast, but again he’d have to wait for a beating. And so what if Cloud used a limit break? I could easily say when Zell uses them, how comes the opponenets doesn’t fly off the screen? Omnislash is intant, and doesn’t require getting owned first.
Ultimacia was>Sephiroth in term’s or raw power she made fiction fact could warp reality and pluck you from time so defeating her was alotmore impressive really.
She’s physically weaker than Sephiroth, and the last time I checked, Ultimecia fought ALL of the squad, Cloud solos Sephiroth.
Most of that was useing limit break’s Braver knocked Bahamut down and Climhazard killed Bahamut Sin, in the Ultimania it said if you watch Cloud get’s a blue Glow around him and his sword when useing Limit Break’s, witch Zell own’s the poor MoFuck in were speed and strenth are consirned.
I never said it wasnt limit break =P How does he own in speed when he only runs around the world in a limit break? and you forget that Omnislash is instant. Cloud has better reflexes.
1. Erm like since it was made DON’T tell me you diden’t no this aswell lol???
2. Yea meh
3. That’s assumeing Cloud instantly used Omni-Slash to beat Sephiroth witch highly contradict’s you saying he fought with him in the lifestream?
It’s called limit break both need to be pushed to their limit, emotionaly (Cloud) and Pysicaly (Zell) so it’s a double edged sword really
4. What lol sure Cloud could avoid a few of Zell’s strike’s but not all of them as Zell is an expert in HTH combat (The best in SeeD) it’s not Cloud’s main fortay so he won’t anticipate all of his move’s same with Zell, and Zell not knocking them of the screen is PIS you know that, they stay till they die sad but true (like Zell and Tifa can both pick up huge opponent’s waighing multiple ton’s (Ruby@Omega) and toss them flying useing limit break’s) Cloud’s finishing touch work’s simalar i belive?
And Zell require’s an Auro for his limit break without getting pissed of or beaten down on what’s your point?
5. Cloud is a bitch compared with Sephiroth he barely beat him without spiritual power’s in AC So to consider Zell fought a fully powered Ultimacia in many Form’s and Gravior is still far more impressive as she is naturaly more powerful than Sephiroth anyway even overlooking her tranceformation’s and Gravior.
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I never said it wasnt limit break =P How does he own in speed when he only runs around the world in a limit break? and you forget that Omnislash is instant. Cloud has better reflexes.
Well try and be more clear next time mofuck 0.0 he also can punch someone 10-11 time’s in one second omnislash isn’t instant hell light speed isn’t instant (witch Cloud sure as hell isn’t)instant would be in the same momment like teliporting, Cloud may have greater reflex’s but Zell fought someone were time wasn’t a factor bitch
1. Erm like since it was made DON’T tell me you diden’t no this aswell lol???
What the hell do you mean aswell? I’m not the one who said Sephiroth was a protagonist. Show me where FFVIII characters can have pre-emtive strikes then if you are so sure.
2. Yea meh
w/e trevor.
3. That’s assumeing Cloud instantly used Omni-Slash to beat Sephiroth witch highly contradict’s you saying he fought with him in the lifestream?
Did I say Cloud would use it instantly? Will you stop putting words into my mouth and actually read my post, Cloud has the advantage with limit breaks because he doesn’t have to be near death to use it.
It’s called limit break both need to be pushed to their limit, emotionaly (Cloud) and Pysicaly (Zell) so it’s a double edged sword really
Didn’t show any emotions for Blade Beam, or Finishing Touch.
4. What lol sure Cloud could avoid a few of Zell’s strike’s but not all of them as Zell is an expert in HTH combat (The best in SeeD) it’s not Cloud’s main fortay so he won’t anticipate all of his move’s same with Zell, and Zell not knocking them of the screen is PIS you know that, they stay till they die sad but true (like Zell and Tifa can both pick up huge opponent’s waighing multiple ton’s (Ruby@Omega) and toss them flying useing limit break’s) Cloud’s finishing touch work’s simalar i belive?
I could say the same for Zell, not avoiding all of Cloud’s attacks. I don’t care if Zell is an expert in Martial Arts, so is Tifa, your point? So what if Zell is SEED, your arguement is as weak as hell, Cloud is in battle but he won’t anticipate attacks? That makes NO sense. I actually wasn’t discrediting the limit breaks thing.
And Zell require’s an Auro for his limit break without getting pissed of or beaten down on what’s your point?
It’a actually Aura, and if Zell is gonna get magic, so is Cloud.
5. Cloud is a bitch compared with Sephiroth he barely beat him without spiritual power’s in AC So to consider Zell fought a fully powered Ultimacia in many Form’s and Gravior is still far more impressive as she is naturaly more powerful than Sephiroth anyway even overlooking her tranceformation’s and Gravior.
Sure Cloud is a bitch if Sephiroth was using all his abilities. I could say the same for Ultimecia, if she used Time Compression, it would be over for Zell AND his crew, who also used MAGIC and SUMMONS and ITEMS. Did Cloud have this luxury? No. Ultimecia is not more powerful than Sephiroth in every way, for starters she’s not even a fucking melee fighter.
Well try and be more clear next time mofuck 0.0 he also can punch someone 10-11 time’s in one second omnislash isn’t instant hell light speed isn’t instant (witch Cloud sure as hell isn’t)instant would be in the same momment like teliporting, Cloud may have greater reflex’s but Zell fought someone were time wasn’t a factor bitch
Well I assumed you knew, so what would be the point in me saying it, he also had Geostigma when he beat down Bahamut. SE stated it to be in a blink of an eye, and that’s the original, not the AC. So what if Zell fought Ultimecia, he fought her with his whole team, with Magic, Items and summons, and also Ultimecia wasn’t time compressing while fighting them, if she did, it would be a horrible death for the world of FFVIII.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Lets just say that limit breaks are out guys. They are rediculas and not ment to be taken seriously. Zell’s “around the world run” makes no sence because you can use it anywhere (in buildings, and a cave, in a place you’re suppose to be held captive, even in another dimension). Same thing goes for summons. Some of Bahamut’s blasts have been so big, the explosion is like 1/10th the size of earth, and then when the battle is over, there is no damage to the terrain what-so-ever. Make this fight a fair duel. No magic, No Limit Breaks.
That being said, I am positive Cloud would take this one. After AC, I just don’t see Zell pulling it off.
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