^ Ouch i love it when someone get’s wtf pwned but yea your right Knight MoFuck,
In DBZ Freiza was stated to be the strongest being in his Universe yet Cooler is already stronger than him presantly but is unknown about currantly, Majin Buu was also much stronger than Freiza was in the past and presant but was currantly also unknown about, Brolly is another good example and Cell show’s that this statement dousent cover all of time.
Now if you consider FF term’s Weiss and all of DG were a splint of group of SOLIDER the shadow of Shinra houseing the strongest being’s on the planet (should that be held as cannon?) so up untill DoC they don’t even come up on the radar lol seeing as none know of even their existence (so like cooler Brolly and Buu stronger being’s already existed they just wern’t known about).
Now useing the same logic as before Sephiroth is only the said strongest in FFVII because DG are for the most part invisable to the rest of the FFVII world and not yet even factored in the UO upon the time of the statement’s release (being we have no idea who or what the fuck they even are or do for that matter, DoC is made very vauge in refferance so as not to create spoiler’s).
As for the statement itself it was true upon release and Sephiroth was the strongest for the said time but it in noway hold’s true for all time past and future only the time of the statement’s release is cannon (what if someone destroyed the planet in an instant in FFVII Sephiroth’s still the strongest yea fucking right lol), Sin’s in the same universe around 1000yr’s prior that dousent make that statement extend to that series douse it? (Katase dident even have a whole lot to do with DoC’s creation makeing his veiw a narrow one on the subject at best, Gohan is said to be the strongest unfused charicter by the creator yet this dousent extend to GT witch is after the said quote same applie’s with DoC and AC).
It’s just a loop hole for Sephiroth fan’s to cling to the hope’s that Sephiroth is still supream in FFVII lol so pay it no mind my man, i could go on all day about way’s Weiss was shown to be ubove Sephiroth in DoC but untill they make a UO for it i can link to and Sephiroth fan’s will listen to reason i won’t even bother wasteing my time lol.
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
And Sin was stated to be the strongest thing in it’s world but guess what? FF10 happens BEFORE FF7, and also the Ultimania was mad after FF10 so you know...Sephiroth is greater than Sin.
But that intern defeat’s you as Sephiroth can be destroyed by damgeing him enough Sin however cannot be beaten by pure overbearing damage he need’s an exact method to his defeat mofuck, one Sephiroth dousent seem to know.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
And Sin was stated to be the strongest thing in it’s world but guess what? FF10 happens BEFORE FF7, and also the Ultimania was mad after FF10 so you know...Sephiroth is greater than Sin.
But that intern defeat’s you as Sephiroth can be destroyed by damgeing him enough Sin however cannot be beaten by pure overbearing damage he need’s an exact method to his defeat mofuck, one Sephiroth dousent seem to know.
Sephiroth currupts him with the negitive lifestream /topic
1. well it is a way he can avoid attack’s i dunno how it would assist in a win tho?
He can just phase into Sin withouth destroying it’s barrier.
2. Sin actually douse a fair bit of absorbing throughout his battle’s, but yea Seph can phase so sure he has the ability but it hasn’t done shit for him in the past
That’s because he didn’t use it.
3. Erm i was just pointing out how Gravija can suck in all matter and how it effect’s matter (it’s magic envoked) what douse this have to do with Holy? and none of Seph’s magic ever pulled the moon from orbit of fucked the planet up on such a large scale did it?
It doesn’t pull ALL matter, if that were the case, the Guardians wouldn’t be able to breathe. What has it hot to do with Holy, he held something back which is antagonistic to Meteor, a planet buster, held it back with his will, what the hell is Gravity going to do? Sin never corrupted life energy now has it?
4. This is completely reffuted because it show’s Airith giveing Cloud handout by transffering Lifestream into him (giveing him that final push) through mega flare aswell as him clearly useing a limit break climhazzard (limit break surpassing limit’s of course), and isn’t Bahamut a dagon consisting of scale’s? if so why wouldent he be more durable than Sephiroth?
This is refutted because that was in his head. You know the whole not real part thing. She actually did nothing physically to help Cloud, you can say all you want, but Aeris is dead, so Cloud survived a city buster and destroyed the blast. So again you haven’t answered my question, what has his limit break got to do with his durability? Climhazzard is an attack NOT a defence, so his durability is not enhanced. Why wouldn’t Bahamut be more durable than Sephiroth? Well, for one Sephiroth is stated and proven the strongest. Bahamut gets torn in half with one slice. It takes six insanely power slices one after the other to kill Sephiroth, which didn’t leave a scratch. If you think Bahamut is more durable than Sephiroth, then I pity you.
Your implying that Sephiroth has immence Endurance when he was clearly avoiding Cloud’s sword and parrying his attack’s when in reality IF he was this durable he would be able to withstand the attack’s without even needing his sword.
Endurance is stamina, Sephiroth runs out, what are you talking about? So by your lame ass logic because Sephiroth sword fights with Cloud, he is now scared of Cloud’s regular attacks? Lol Cloud couldn’t even hit it, did you forget that he stopped an onlsaught of Cloud with sheer will. I guess Weiss isn’t near indestructable because he was blocking Chao’s shots.
Weiss was said to have a near indistructable body plus their is evidence neither he or Chaos wern’t hit by those attack’s as both are seen takeing the other’s back’s right after insinuateing they avoided the attack, their is even an after image like blur on the hit party plus have you even seen what the death penalty douse?, if it did hit Weiss it would have killed him for sure as it destroy’s contaminated soul’s upon impact.
Sephiroth was said to be the strongest, so why don’t you believe that? You have no problem believing that Weiss was near indestructable, another double standard dude. That’s where you fail, CHAOS DID SHOOT WEISS. AND IT DID SHIT ALL FAIL.
Oh wow, this is so funny that you are saying Square Enix talk bullshit, when official statements are given, but hey lets trust the internets.
. It’s hardly hypocritical Buster lol -.-" you see other’s far weaker Freiza Vegeta King Vegeta Brolly and such have all been shown to have thisability and thnsome so their is proof enough Goku can achive this feat, how often douse Sephiroth or any use Phaseing in battle dureing FFVII hmmm?
You need to look up the definition of hypocritical then. Yeah the OTHERS have shown this ability, but Goku HAS NEVER DONE such a thing, and that is why it’s a double standard, when has Goku ever busted a planet in battle? Oh and about the Sephiroth thing, CAN Sephiroth become intangible? If you answer that question correctly, you’ll see why you’re a hypocrite.
6. This is far to simple to refute useing DBZ as u tried my freind, Gohan is stated by the creator’s to be the strongest unfused charicter in Dragon Ball yet douse this extend to GT? no it douse not, the refferance’s you have are based in CC BC and AC nothing from DoC stateing he is ubove Weiss Chaos or Omega and was written and released before DoC was even released so theirfore douse not extend past the time it was written (hell their is close to no information given in the UO on DG, because for obviouse reason’s the creator’s dident want any spoiler’s getting out before it’s release
Wow just wow, you get shot down with the biggest insane proof but you brush it off like it’s nothing. Did the creators of DBZ STATE they didn’t want anyone stronger than Gohan? Answer me this. There is no written evidence that Chaos is above Sephiroth, see how that works? Nice try, I have proof, you don’t, so you keep denying it. Ok the bolded part I am referring to now, who said it does not extend to DoC? Did you say this to help your arguement? Or did Square Enix say this? Stop lying ok. Ok one time in another thread you said that DoC was in post production, when the UO came out, which is obvious bullshit, now they don’t want to spoil DoC? How would they spoil DoC? That doesn’t make sense. AND the Compilation Ultimania came out AFTER DoC, there is no recton of Sephiroth being the strongest, so your arguement fails upon it’s arse bad style. Kitase knew who he wants to be the strongest, and you just don’t want to believe it because well..it hurts your arguement.
Whoa whoa whoa two completely different aspect’s their if a creator say’s his charicter can destroy a universe douse this make it untrue?, of course not if he wish’s it but if a creator pre series state’s a charicter to be the strongest in that percific time and space (Friza,perfect Cell,Kid Buu) then they are also telling the truth but it dousent extend to all time’s past presant and future you get me? So Sephiroth was the Strongest but their is no evidence Sephiroth is beyond Weiss or Chaos in DoC but nice try brother -.o
The creator didn’t say anything for the DBZ, most of the time IT’S THE CHARACTERS WHO STATE THINGS. You have no problem believing such hyperbolic bullshit when it helps your arguement, but when it’s agianst you, it’s untrue. You fail hard because SE said they didn’t want ANYNOE stronger than Sephiroth, plus there is NO recton. Hahaha the last bolded part absolutely contradicts you, that makes no sense, you are saying Sephiroth is the strongest, but he’s not stronger than Chaos and Weiss, lol do you go out of your way to not make sense or something?
In DBZ Freiza was stated to be the strongest being in his Universe yet Cooler is already stronger than him presantly but is unknown about currantly, Majin Buu was also much stronger than Freiza was in the past and presant but was currantly also unknown about, Brolly is another good example and Cell show’s that this statement dousent cover all of time.
Now did the DBZ creators STATE they didn’t want ANYONE stronger Freiza?
Now if you consider FF term’s Weiss and all of DG were a splint of group of SOLIDER the shadow of Shinra houseing the strongest being’s on the planet (should that be held as cannon?) so up untill DoC they don’t even come up on the radar lol seeing as none know of even their existence (so like cooler Brolly and Buu stronger being’s already existed they just wern’t known about).
Oh so you are taking Hojo’s word over Kitase the guy who writes this? LMAO, talking about being desperate to help your argument. No one knew of their existance? So you are telling me Sqaure Enix themselves didn’t know about DeepGround, that would make sense, but for the small fact that SE are the CREATORS. Sephiroth was stated to be the strongest being ever in VII, and in the Compilation Ultimania which came out AFTER DoC, there is no recton, not to mention that the UO and DoC were finished pretty much the same time.
Now useing the same logic as before Sephiroth is only the said strongest in FFVII because DG are for the most part invisable to the rest of the FFVII world and not yet even factored in the UO upon the time of the statement’s release (being we have no idea who or what the fuck they even are or do for that matter, DoC is made very vauge in refferance so as not to create spoiler’s).
This translates to:
I have no shred of evidence to suggest Sephiroth isn’t the strongest, what I try to do is say the Kitase’s statements are outdated to help my arguement.
Ok, Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure WE weren’t supposed to know about DG, but I’m betting the creators did. DG factored in the Compilation Ultimania, and there is no one saying that Weiss or Chaos are stronger than Sephiroth. Further more, there is no recton about Sephiroth being the strongest. And also it wasn’t just in FFVII, Sephiroth was stated to be the strongest, DID YOU EVEN READ MY QUOTES IN THE PREVIOUS REPLY TO KYLE’S POST? You obviously didn’t.
As for the statement itself it was true upon release and Sephiroth was the strongest for the said time but it in noway hold’s true for all time past and future only the time of the statement’s release is cannon (what if someone destroyed the planet in an instant in FFVII Sephiroth’s still the strongest yea fucking right lol), Sin’s in the same universe around 1000yr’s prior that dousent make that statement extend to that series douse it? (Katase dident even have a whole lot to do with DoC’s creation makeing his veiw a narrow one on the subject at best, Gohan is said to be the strongest unfused charicter by the creator yet this dousent extend to GT witch is after the said quote same applie’s with DoC and AC).
Nope, the statement became law when Kitase said “there is nothing stronger, nothing above him” and “we couldn’t make anybody stronger than Sephiroth, in the world of FFVII”, this is proof you didn’t even read my post. There is also visual evidence for Sephiroth being the best in VII. If the creators say Sephiroth is the stongest, he is, nobody gives a shit if you disagree with it, because you down own the FF franchise. And what’s this, Kitase had little to do with DoC? He’s only the producer, yeah your word must be more valid than his. Yeah keep believing that if you want. LOL, I already countered the DBZ in a previous reply.
It’s just a loop hole for Sephiroth fan’s to cling to the hope’s that Sephiroth is still supream in FFVII lol so pay it no mind my man, i could go on all day about way’s Weiss was shown to be ubove Sephiroth in DoC but untill they make a UO for it i can link to and Sephiroth fan’s will listen to reason i won’t even bother wasteing my time lol.
Lol how sad indeed. If you want to go on a crusade and ignore facts and act like we’re stupid when you’re the one who’s being ignorant, good for you. Oh was Weiss Warp speeding in his Omega form? Oh wow, Sephiroth did this in his BASE form. Yeah next. Weiss beat Rosso and Azul? Oh wow, Sephiroth took on Angeal and Genesis whilst mocking them. Lol Base Sephiroth and Base Genesis are both above Base Weiss. Lol epic pahil.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Also there is evidence he is above DoC characters, it is stated there can’t be a more powerful character than Sephiroth so looks like you get owned by the creator once more.
1. well it is a way he can avoid attack’s i dunno how it would assist in a win tho?
He can just phase into Sin withouth destroying it’s barrier.
2. Sin actually douse a fair bit of absorbing throughout his battle’s, but yea Seph can phase so sure he has the ability but it hasn’t done shit for him in the past
That’s because he didn’t use it.
3. Erm i was just pointing out how Gravija can suck in all matter and how it effect’s matter (it’s magic envoked) what douse this have to do with Holy? and none of Seph’s magic ever pulled the moon from orbit of fucked the planet up on such a large scale did it?
It doesn’t pull ALL matter, if that were the case, the Guardians wouldn’t be able to breathe. What has it hot to do with Holy, he held something back which is antagonistic to Meteor, a planet buster, held it back with his will, what the hell is Gravity going to do? Sin never corrupted life energy now has it?
4. This is completely reffuted because it show’s Airith giveing Cloud handout by transffering Lifestream into him (giveing him that final push) through mega flare aswell as him clearly useing a limit break climhazzard (limit break surpassing limit’s of course), and isn’t Bahamut a dagon consisting of scale’s? if so why wouldent he be more durable than Sephiroth?
This is refutted because that was in his head. You know the whole not real part thing. She actually did nothing physically to help Cloud, you can say all you want, but Aeris is dead, so Cloud survived a city buster and destroyed the blast. So again you haven’t answered my question, what has his limit break got to do with his durability? Climhazzard is an attack NOT a defence, so his durability is not enhanced. Why wouldn’t Bahamut be more durable than Sephiroth? Well, for one Sephiroth is stated and proven the strongest. Bahamut gets torn in half with one slice. It takes six insanely power slices one after the other to kill Sephiroth, which didn’t leave a scratch. If you think Bahamut is more durable than Sephiroth, then I pity you.
Your implying that Sephiroth has immence Endurance when he was clearly avoiding Cloud’s sword and parrying his attack’s when in reality IF he was this durable he would be able to withstand the attack’s without even needing his sword.
Endurance is stamina, Sephiroth runs out, what are you talking about? So by your lame ass logic because Sephiroth sword fights with Cloud, he is now scared of Cloud’s regular attacks? Lol Cloud couldn’t even hit it, did you forget that he stopped an onlsaught of Cloud with sheer will. I guess Weiss isn’t near indestructable because he was blocking Chao’s shots.
Weiss was said to have a near indistructable body plus their is evidence neither he or Chaos wern’t hit by those attack’s as both are seen takeing the other’s back’s right after insinuateing they avoided the attack, their is even an after image like blur on the hit party plus have you even seen what the death penalty douse?, if it did hit Weiss it would have killed him for sure as it destroy’s contaminated soul’s upon impact.
Sephiroth was said to be the strongest, so why don’t you believe that? You have no problem believing that Weiss was near indestructable, another double standard dude. That’s where you fail, CHAOS DID SHOOT WEISS. AND IT DID SHIT ALL FAIL.
Oh wow, this is so funny that you are saying Square Enix talk bullshit, when official statements are given, but hey lets trust the internets.
. It’s hardly hypocritical Buster lol -.-" you see other’s far weaker Freiza Vegeta King Vegeta Brolly and such have all been shown to have thisability and thnsome so their is proof enough Goku can achive this feat, how often douse Sephiroth or any use Phaseing in battle dureing FFVII hmmm?
You need to look up the definition of hypocritical then. Yeah the OTHERS have shown this ability, but Goku HAS NEVER DONE such a thing, and that is why it’s a double standard, when has Goku ever busted a planet in battle? Oh and about the Sephiroth thing, CAN Sephiroth become intangible? If you answer that question correctly, you’ll see why you’re a hypocrite.
6. This is far to simple to refute useing DBZ as u tried my freind, Gohan is stated by the creator’s to be the strongest unfused charicter in Dragon Ball yet douse this extend to GT? no it douse not, the refferance’s you have are based in CC BC and AC nothing from DoC stateing he is ubove Weiss Chaos or Omega and was written and released before DoC was even released so theirfore douse not extend past the time it was written (hell their is close to no information given in the UO on DG, because for obviouse reason’s the creator’s dident want any spoiler’s getting out before it’s release
Wow just wow, you get shot down with the biggest insane proof but you brush it off like it’s nothing. Did the creators of DBZ STATE they didn’t want anyone stronger than Gohan? Answer me this. There is no written evidence that Chaos is above Sephiroth, see how that works? Nice try, I have proof, you don’t, so you keep denying it. Ok the bolded part I am referring to now, who said it does not extend to DoC? Did you say this to help your arguement? Or did Square Enix say this? Stop lying ok. Ok one time in another thread you said that DoC was in post production, when the UO came out, which is obvious bullshit, now they don’t want to spoil DoC? How would they spoil DoC? That doesn’t make sense. AND the Compilation Ultimania came out AFTER DoC, there is no recton of Sephiroth being the strongest, so your arguement fails upon it’s arse bad style. Kitase knew who he wants to be the strongest, and you just don’t want to believe it because well..it hurts your arguement.
Whoa whoa whoa two completely different aspect’s their if a creator say’s his charicter can destroy a universe douse this make it untrue?, of course not if he wish’s it but if a creator pre series state’s a charicter to be the strongest in that percific time and space (Friza,perfect Cell,Kid Buu) then they are also telling the truth but it dousent extend to all time’s past presant and future you get me? So Sephiroth was the Strongest but their is no evidence Sephiroth is beyond Weiss or Chaos in DoC but nice try brother -.o
The creator didn’t say anything for the DBZ, most of the time IT’S THE CHARACTERS WHO STATE THINGS. You have no problem believing such hyperbolic bullshit when it helps your arguement, but when it’s agianst you, it’s untrue. You fail hard because SE said they didn’t want ANYNOE stronger than Sephiroth, plus there is NO recton. Hahaha the last bolded part absolutely contradicts you, that makes no sense, you are saying Sephiroth is the strongest, but he’s not stronger than Chaos and Weiss, lol do you go out of your way to not make sense or something?
In DBZ Freiza was stated to be the strongest being in his Universe yet Cooler is already stronger than him presantly but is unknown about currantly, Majin Buu was also much stronger than Freiza was in the past and presant but was currantly also unknown about, Brolly is another good example and Cell show’s that this statement dousent cover all of time.
Now did the DBZ creators STATE they didn’t want ANYONE stronger Freiza?
Now if you consider FF term’s Weiss and all of DG were a splint of group of SOLIDER the shadow of Shinra houseing the strongest being’s on the planet (should that be held as cannon?) so up untill DoC they don’t even come up on the radar lol seeing as none know of even their existence (so like cooler Brolly and Buu stronger being’s already existed they just wern’t known about).
Oh so you are taking Hojo’s word over Kitase the guy who writes this? LMAO, talking about being desperate to help your argument. No one knew of their existance? So you are telling me Sqaure Enix themselves didn’t know about DeepGround, that would make sense, but for the small fact that SE are the CREATORS. Sephiroth was stated to be the strongest being ever in VII, and in the Compilation Ultimania which came out AFTER DoC, there is no recton, not to mention that the UO and DoC were finished pretty much the same time.
Now useing the same logic as before Sephiroth is only the said strongest in FFVII because DG are for the most part invisable to the rest of the FFVII world and not yet even factored in the UO upon the time of the statement’s release (being we have no idea who or what the fuck they even are or do for that matter, DoC is made very vauge in refferance so as not to create spoiler’s).
This translates to:
I have no shred of evidence to suggest Sephiroth isn’t the strongest, what I try to do is say the Kitase’s statements are outdated to help my arguement.
Ok, Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure WE weren’t supposed to know about DG, but I’m betting the creators did. DG factored in the Compilation Ultimania, and there is no one saying that Weiss or Chaos are stronger than Sephiroth. Further more, there is no recton about Sephiroth being the strongest. And also it wasn’t just in FFVII, Sephiroth was stated to be the strongest, DID YOU EVEN READ MY QUOTES IN THE PREVIOUS REPLY TO KYLE’S POST? You obviously didn’t.
As for the statement itself it was true upon release and Sephiroth was the strongest for the said time but it in noway hold’s true for all time past and future only the time of the statement’s release is cannon (what if someone destroyed the planet in an instant in FFVII Sephiroth’s still the strongest yea fucking right lol), Sin’s in the same universe around 1000yr’s prior that dousent make that statement extend to that series douse it? (Katase dident even have a whole lot to do with DoC’s creation makeing his veiw a narrow one on the subject at best, Gohan is said to be the strongest unfused charicter by the creator yet this dousent extend to GT witch is after the said quote same applie’s with DoC and AC).
Nope, the statement became law when Kitase said “there is nothing stronger, nothing above him” and “we couldn’t make anybody stronger than Sephiroth, in the world of FFVII”, this is proof you didn’t even read my post. There is also visual evidence for Sephiroth being the best in VII. If the creators say Sephiroth is the stongest, he is, nobody gives a shit if you disagree with it, because you down own the FF franchise. And what’s this, Kitase had little to do with DoC? He’s only the producer, yeah your word must be more valid than his. Yeah keep believing that if you want. LOL, I already countered the DBZ in a previous reply.
It’s just a loop hole for Sephiroth fan’s to cling to the hope’s that Sephiroth is still supream in FFVII lol so pay it no mind my man, i could go on all day about way’s Weiss was shown to be ubove Sephiroth in DoC but untill they make a UO for it i can link to and Sephiroth fan’s will listen to reason i won’t even bother wasteing my time lol.
Lol how sad indeed. If you want to go on a crusade and ignore facts and act like we’re stupid when you’re the one who’s being ignorant, good for you. Oh was Weiss Warp speeding in his Omega form? Oh wow, Sephiroth did this in his BASE form. Yeah next. Weiss beat Rosso and Azul? Oh wow, Sephiroth took on Angeal and Genesis whilst mocking them. Lol Base Sephiroth and Base Genesis are both above Base Weiss. Lol epic pahil.
1. I see should pose interesting but it isn’t a win sulution
2. And now for some reason will out of the countless time’s he hasn’t been shown to use it includeing time’s of mortal doom, Omnislash V5 for instence? But on the term’s it’s his ability and he douse poses it sure it would help him if in a must scinario no PIS
3. Im sorry i thought the Lifestream helped Holy beat Meteor but it has been awhile Buster?,in anycase i can see how that’s an impressive feat but not quight as impressive as pulling thing’s from orbit then shreding up the planet 5-6 way’s.
Im talking pysical damage in witch Sin dominate’s contaminateing the planet would so shit to Sin mate, don’t get me wrong it’s highly impressive what spiritual power’s Sephiroth poseses but outright pysical might it go’s in Sin’s favor.
4. Answer me this did Airith Grab Cloud’s hand and did it clearly show Airith giveing Cloud a spiritual Boost in that blast? what was it’s significance to you? it dident do nothing that’s for sure (to me she did as the other’s did and gave Cloud that little Boost to get through the Mega-Flare).
It’s like when Sephiroth ask’s later “my were did you get this strenth from” the same spiritual glow is seen eminateing from Cloud as he force’s Sephiroth back through the Shinra Corp building, Airith did give Cloud a spiritual strenth boost witch significantly raised his strenth enough to fend of Sephiroth in such a manner did it not?
Limit Break exceed’s normal limitation’s am i right, you say it’s an offenssive manuvere well why did a blue aura apear around Cloud while flying up toward Bahamut? couldent be sheilding him now could it?
You say i haven’t answered your question now i have, so answer mine what make’s you so sure Bahamut’s blast is a City Buster when it did jack shit? was that ever stated or did you label that yourself Buster Boy?, don’t say i make up shit and pull it out my ass when your hypocritical to do the same.
Well since when did Sephiroth sheild Cloud’s attack’s with his body? you say he is the most durable and you even pity me for beliveing this when evidently correct me if im wrong Sephiroth had to block Cloud’s shot’s with a sword.
Are you so eliquently surggesting that if Sephiroth stood their and Cloud assaulted him in the same manner as he did Bahamut the blade would just bounce of? talk sence man he blocked because this is not true and he could not withstand the 1st Tsurugi’s assualt’s unguarded.
5. WTF Endurance is stamina is it lol nahh bro it’s ENDURANCE e.g what you can take fucking look it up mate it’s tollerance to damage, your not seriously surggesting Sephiroth can withstand the 1st Tsurugi head on are you? fuck his spiritual powers lol and will power im talking actual pysical resistence to attack witch Bahamut took head on Sephiroth HAD to guard against Cloud’s attack’s cus they would wtfpwn his ass true or untrue?
Weiss on the other hand was said to be near indestructable, he blocked bullet’s with his hand for pete’s sake and your being iggnorant to the fact the Death Penalty is no ordinary weapon lol, dident you read what i posted at all? they gain power through disposeing of contaminated spirits hell so strong they can one hit even super Boses Weiss is near invunrable not imperviose to harm like your makeing out Sephiroth to be, if he was hit with it he would be fucked hence why he blocked the shot Chaos made.
6. I do belive as other’s do Sephiroth was the Strongest being in FFVII but your perposefully ignoreing DG wasn’t around when that statement was made, Look at the release date’s over 4 month’s between UO and DoC the fact the information in the UO is so little on DG sustanciate’s my claim’s further a, no spoiler’s for the fan’s and b, it was made after the fact correct or not.
If i haven’t made my opinion well known enough for you yet Buster then copy this for later preferance, (remember listen to other’s and they may listen to you).
“I agree Sephiroth WAS the Strongest in BC CC FFVII and even AC on witch the UO’s clam’s are infact Valid (useing DBZ for instence Freiza was the most powerful being in the universe but later it is discovered this was not the case as many were infact beyond him) my opinion isn’t ubove the creator’s i cannot pull out Weiss Chaos or Omega being > Sephiroth on paper but i can bring forth challengeing information that they are his equal’s to say being beyond him in the matter’s of strenth speed and power” (factual documentation on these event’s are few to none tho so im deffered)
“This said nothing can be sustanciated to surggest Sephiroth is > the prior mentioned party as he has desplayed lack of said feat’s (due to real power not yet being shown witch leave’s this open even more so), unless you use the quote given by the creator’s prior these event’s of corse” (however as ive depicted DG is after said quote witch is relivent and leave’s room for debate over the subject, i would be satisfied with proof the Tsveit’s diden’t aquire Sephiroth’s level of power however none the less instead of constantly being reffered to the same material statement made month’s perhap’s being wrote a year in advance before DoC was even a factor).
“Now im not ignorant to the creator’s knowing EVERYTHING about Their Charicter’s, but that’s the point im makeing on their statement’s how we interprit the material is different, in his space and time he was ubove all that we KNEW about currently he was the supream existence respectfully yet that dousent equate to all time past presant and future like if they made a charicter who destroyed earth in a single shot that quote is no longer valid now is it”?
“So unless Squere say “hey Sephiroth is still stronger than all of DG” after the fact were stuck for closure really, im not trying to lie bend the truth or BS im marely interperting what the creator’s comment’s ment to me and that is that Sephiroth is the strongest known being in FFVII that has been shown so far after the fact, im not going to state anything with no backing but DG are the strongest thing’s next to Sephiroth if Buster’s interpertation hold’s true and Sephiroth has truely no peer, you see alot is left desired by the creator’s and in future may become clear”
7. You have a quote Buster ill give you that lol, but one you have milked quight far i belive what make’s your vertion of the truth >mine hmmm? your makeing assumtion’s from the same material as i am and ignoreing the time lapse and fact heisn’t stronger than all thing’s past and presant, even the fact DG wernt even brought into the picture when these statement’s are made.
The spoiler’s comment is easy why would they give away information crutial to the plot of DoC before it’s release?, defeat’s the point of playing the game at all douse it not?, so you keep saying im lieing cus in your perfect lil world were Sephiroth is > all it is far easier to belive that statement extend’s to all the series, you say who stated it dousent i say who said it dousent?
8. Listen to reason Buster I said Sephiroth WAS the strongest and Chaos and Weiss WERE weather they are or not is open to debate make’s perfect sence given the circumstances we find ourselve’s in
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
. I see should pose interesting but it isn’t a win sulution
Er, yes it is. You think Sephiroth couldn’t get into Sin when he can, once he’s in, goodbye Sin.
. And now for some reason will out of the countless time’s he hasn’t been shown to use it includeing time’s of mortal doom, Omnislash V5 for instence? But on the term’s it’s his ability and he douse poses it sure it would help him if in a must scinario no PIS
So because he didn’t use it he can’t do it? Answer me that ok, you know what the answer is, but if you feel like beating a dead horse, be my guest, your denail isn’t helping your argument one bit. Since when can Sin do any attack faster than Omnislash?
3. Im sorry i thought the Lifestream helped Holy beat Meteor but it has been awhile Buster?,in anycase i can see how that’s an impressive feat but not quight as impressive as pulling thing’s from orbit then shreding up the planet 5-6 way’s.
Holy was actually destroying the planet too, it was SUPPOSED to be antagonistic to Meteor but it wasn’t. It’s not about how impressive it is, you are saying that Sin will pull Sephiroth in, and I said that wouldn’t work.
Im talking pysical damage in witch Sin dominate’s contaminateing the planet would so shit to Sin mate, don’t get me wrong it’s highly impressive what spiritual power’s Sephiroth poseses but outright pysical might it go’s in Sin’s favor.
Sephiroth has never done anything such as explosions or energy blasts. His goal as we all know is to fuck up the lifestream in some way, you don’t need to blow up things to do that really. No, Sephiroth would contaminate Sin’s lifeforce, and that is how Sin is fucked from the inside out.
4. Answer me this did Airith Grab Cloud’s hand and did it clearly show Airith giveing Cloud a spiritual Boost in that blast? what was it’s significance to you? it dident do nothing that’s for sure (to me she did as the other’s did and gave Cloud that little Boost to get through the Mega-Flare).
Answer me this, is Aeris dead or alive? You CLEARLY see he was “seeing” this. Why was the background white if she was actually there? They didn’t give him any boost, none of them did, all they did was pushing him up to Bahamut because he couldn’t fly, and Aeris doing it is a symbol of the complete Avalanche helping Cloud, they didn’t give him any physical boots, he did that himself.
It’s like when Sephiroth ask’s later “my were did you get this strenth from” the same spiritual glow is seen eminateing from Cloud as he force’s Sephiroth back through the Shinra Corp building, Airith did give Cloud a spiritual strenth boost witch significantly raised his strenth enough to fend of Sephiroth in such a manner did it not?
What the hell are you talking about? The blue lights were from the clashes they made. Aeris didn’t give him any strength boost, losing Geostigma made his potential grow.
Limit Break exceed’s normal limitation’s am i right, you say it’s an offenssive manuvere well why did a blue aura apear around Cloud while flying up toward Bahamut? couldent be sheilding him now could it?
It just depends on what the limit break is used for, if it’s a physical attack, then the physical power goes up. By that logic when Aeris uses healing spells her durability goes up too which makes no sense. The blue aura shows that he is using a limit break, that is the whole point of the blue arua, so you KNOW it’s a limit break, it’s NOT a barrier. Dude stop changing your argument.
You say i haven’t answered your question now i have, so answer mine what make’s you so sure Bahamut’s blast is a City Buster when it did jack shit? was that ever stated or did you label that yourself Buster Boy?, don’t say i make up shit and pull it out my ass when your hypocritical to do the same.
Actually you answered it incorrectly. So now you got proven wrong about that, now I have to prove that the attack was city busting? Well for a fact Mega does more damage than the size of it’s own blast, you can see the size of the blast, which is WAY bigger than Cloud and even Bahamut, it’s way bigger. So you are trying to say that it wasn’t city busting just because it didn’t do the feat? I guess Omega can’t take the lifestream because Chaos stopped him. How am I a hypocrite? You don’t even know how to makes sense. It doesn’t have to be stated about the blast, is it stated that Cloud can beat Marlene? No, but you know he would rip her apart, again you don’t know what hypocrasy means, there is offical statements CONTRADICTING what you say. Where is the contradiction in my statements?
Well since when did Sephiroth sheild Cloud’s attack’s with his body? you say he is the most durable and you even pity me for beliveing this when evidently correct me if im wrong Sephiroth had to block Cloud’s shot’s with a sword.
I didn’t say he did, read my post again. Why does Omega block Chaos when he can take a blast from death penalty? Why does Cloud dodge and block bullets when SE state that they won’t do much too him?
Are you so eliquently surggesting that if Sephiroth stood their and Cloud assaulted him in the same manner as he did Bahamut the blade would just bounce of? talk sence man he blocked because this is not true and he could not withstand the 1st Tsurugi’s assualt’s unguarded.
Is Bahamut stronger than Sephiroth? You haven’t answered me that question. You are telling me to talk sense? Lmao, I’m not the one calling Sephiroth a protaognist. You can’t prove that he couldn’t withstand it, I can prove he can, because he’s stronger than Bahamut, no prove to me that Bahamut is stronger than Sephiroth, if you can’t, your arguement is annulled.
. WTF Endurance is stamina is it lol nahh bro it’s ENDURANCE e.g what you can take fucking look it up mate it’s tollerance to damage, your not seriously surggesting Sephiroth can withstand the 1st Tsurugi head on are you? fuck his spiritual powers lol and will power im talking actual pysical resistence to attack witch Bahamut took head on Sephiroth HAD to guard against Cloud’s attack’s cus they would wtfpwn his ass true or untrue?
Endurance: The ability to put up with with a difficult situation for a period of time.
That’s your definition.
Prove that Sephiroth had to guard, oh wait you can’t. Go on tell Kitase he should have made Sephiroth NOT sword fight with Cloud, oh wait, that would defeat the whole point of them fighting if it wasn’t a sword fight. Now prove to me that Bahmut is stronger than Sephiroth, I’ve proved to you that Sephiroth, you have to disprove it. Why does it take one slice to kill Bahamut, but 15/6 to beat Sephiroth? Oh wait...
Weiss on the other hand was said to be near indestructable, he blocked bullet’s with his hand for pete’s sake and your being iggnorant to the fact the Death Penalty is no ordinary weapon lol, dident you read what i posted at all? they gain power through disposeing of contaminated spirits hell so strong they can one hit even super Boses Weiss is near invunrable not imperviose to harm like your makeing out Sephiroth to be, if he was hit with it he would be fucked hence why he blocked the shot Chaos made.
Sephiroth was said to be the strongest, but guess what, you don’t believe because you know better than SE. You do know you saing Weiss blocked bullets with his hands helps my Sephiroth arguement even more, who is stronger? Oh yes let me recheck, it’s SEPHIROTH. lol selp pwn.
Now when did I say Sephiroth is impervious to harm? Weiss didn’t block Chaos’s shot, stop fucking lying, he got hit then came behind Chaos.
. I do belive as other’s do Sephiroth was the Strongest being in FFVII but your perposefully ignoreing DG wasn’t around when that statement was made, Look at the release date’s over 4 month’s between UO and DoC the fact the information in the UO is so little on DG sustanciate’s my claim’s further a, no spoiler’s for the fan’s and b, it was made after the fact correct or not.
No you don’t believe this at all, heck you were saying Vincent was on par with Sephiroth, Shelke was moving Omnislash speed, the hell would you know about anything after those bullshit statements. I am not purposefully ignoring anything, I am not the one who said a few months ago that the UO was bullshit because it destroyed your argument, I’m not the one crying because SE made characters better than the ones who you think are the most powerful, I’m not the one saying “ur a bigger dick then Weiss” lol.
And your four months arguement is so weak I don’t even know why I’m countering it but I will do.
Ok, video games take 3 years to make. Now everything planned for DoC was already decided before they even produce it, so yeah DoC plans were made at the same time of AC. All the Reunion Files, UO, AC, DoC were produced simultaneuosly, you are using the week assed argument of it being released a few months later as to why it was incorrect. Which is bullshit, because you fail to grasp that when Kitase said those things about Sephiroth, he damn well knew about DoC, you are saying it as if they made DoC on a whim 4 months after AC, which again is absolute bullshit. And again why isn’t Sephiroth being the strongest rectonned in the Compilation Ultimania? Which came out AFTER DoC? You have failed to answer this question for a few months now.
If i haven’t made my opinion well known enough for you yet Buster then copy this for later preferance, (remember listen to other’s and they may listen to you).
It’s not about listening at all with you, you don’t even listen to the creators, so how can you tell me to listen when you obviously don’t.
“I agree Sephiroth WAS the Strongest in BC CC FFVII and even AC on witch the UO’s clam’s are infact Valid (useing DBZ for instence Freiza was the most powerful being in the universe but later it is discovered this was not the case as many were infact beyond him) my opinion isn’t ubove the creator’s i cannot pull out Weiss Chaos or Omega being > Sephiroth on paper but i can bring forth challengeing information that they are his equal’s to say being beyond him in the matter’s of strenth speed and power” (factual documentation on these event’s are few to none tho so im deffered)
The first sentence is wrong, why should I continue? Did the creators of DBZ state they couldn’t make anybody stronger than Frieza? And also with Freiza, was this character statements or official statement?
You can’t bring out any proof, written or visual, so you just ignore anything the destroys your arguement. Sephiroth is the strongest, Omega Weiss had the speed of BASE Sephiroth. End of story.
This said nothing can be sustanciated to surggest Sephiroth is > the prior mentioned party as he has desplayed lack of said feat’s (due to real power not yet being shown witch leave’s this open even more so), unless you use the quote given by the creator’s prior these event’s of corse” (however as ive depicted DG is after said quote witch is relivent and leave’s room for debate over the subject, i would be satisfied with proof the Tsveit’s diden’t aquire Sephiroth’s level of power however none the less instead of constantly being reffered to the same material statement made month’s perhap’s being wrote a year in advance before DoC was even a factor).
Lack of feats? Warping in his base form much, I can pull up a list of Sephiroth’s abilities, can you do the same for Chaos and Weiss? I think not. And stop lying, UO was NOT written (and it’s actually the Reunion Files) was not written a year before DoC, so stop that, and even so there is a NEW Compilation Ultimania which you have ignored time and time again.
“Now im not ignorant to the creator’s knowing EVERYTHING about Their Charicter’s, but that’s the point im makeing on their statement’s how we interprit the material is different, in his space and time he was ubove all that we KNEW about currently he was the supream existence respectfully yet that dousent equate to all time past presant and future like if they made a charicter who destroyed earth in a single shot that quote is no longer valid now is it”?
Hahahaha yes you are. There is nothing different about interpreting a FACT, you just CHOSE to ignore it. No see again you fail and again you show your ignorance, you are ASSUMING that SE were talking about the time he was alive. Last time I checked everybody in VII were there when Sephiroth was alive, just because you didn’t know about DG, doesnt mean SE didn’t. And there is also the fact they said the COULDN’T make anybody stronger, go on ignore that if you wish.
We are not to decide who is the most powerful, if the creators specifically go out og their way to say so.
The Beyonder isn’t the most powerful marvel character, The One Above All is, but has The One Above All done the crazy things that The Beyonder did? No.
“So unless Squere say “hey Sephiroth is still stronger than all of DG” after the fact were stuck for closure really, im not trying to lie bend the truth or BS im marely interperting what the creator’s comment’s ment to me and that is that Sephiroth is the strongest known being in FFVII that has been shown so far after the fact, im not going to state anything with no backing but DG are the strongest thing’s next to Sephiroth if Buster’s interpertation hold’s true and Sephiroth has truely no peer, you see alot is left desired by the creator’s and in future may become clear”
What the fuck? This just proves your insane ignorance, you just want Kitase to say Sephiroth is specifically more powerful than Chaos, when they HAVE already said that he was, you know the part where they said they COULDN’T make ANYBODY stronger, and yet still in the CU, there is nothing rectonning those statements. Actually DG are probably peak Avalanche level. For one DG don’t have materia and they are outnumbered, regular DG soldiers don’t count because they are shit.
. You have a quote Buster ill give you that lol, but one you have milked quight far i belive what make’s your vertion of the truth >mine hmmm? your makeing assumtion’s from the same material as i am and ignoreing the time lapse and fact heisn’t stronger than all thing’s past and presant, even the fact DG wernt even brought into the picture when these statement’s are made
It’s not my version of the truth, this has nothing to do with “version” it has ALWAYS been about you not accepting SE statements, you say you do, but you actually DON’T. What assumptions am I making that contradicts SE facts? Go on and tell, please dont say I’m doing the same as you, because for one I don’t say statements are outdated when I’m desperate.
Again just stop your ignorance it’s not even funny, “DG weren’t brought into this” what bollocks, DG ALWAYS existed. WE didn’t know about them, but Kitase and SE DID, you know what, you deny everything and then you say you are not ignorant and open minded, again, check the definition of hypocrite again, because you seriously need to learn what it is.
8. Listen to reason Buster I said Sephiroth WAS the strongest and Chaos and Weiss WERE weather they are or not is open to debate make’s perfect sence given the circumstances we find ourselve’s in
Read my friend.
We couldn’t make anybody stronger than Sephiroth in the world of FFVII.
If you deny this, they you are a hypocrite for saying you are not ignorant.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Square-Enix stated(in their FFVII games and UOGs) that Pre-Nibel Sephiroth was the strongest SOLDIER ever. But in the CC Ultimania they retconned this, by stating that Genesis(before his degradation started) was his equal.
Square-Enix stated that Post-Nibel Sephiroth is the strongest character in the world of FFVII, and that they would never create a character stronger than him.
And in the Compilation Ultimania they DIDN’T retcon that information. They DIDN’T state that Chaos or Weiss are superior to him.
If Square-Enix wanted to make Omega Weiss stronger or equal to Sephiroth, they would have SAID it. Like they did with Genesis
The Crystal wrote:
Square-Enix stated(in their FFVII games and UOGs) that Pre-Nibel Sephiroth was the strongest SOLDIER ever. But in the CC Ultimania they retconned this, by stating that Genesis(before his degradation started) was his equal.
Square-Enix stated that Post-Nibel Sephiroth is the strongest character in the world of FFVII, and that they would never create a character stronger than him.
And in the Compilation Ultimania they DIDN’T retcon that information. They DIDN’T state that Chaos or Weiss are superior to him.
If Square-Enix wanted to make Omega Weiss stronger or equal to Sephiroth, they would have SAID it. Like they did with Genesis
Did they? Not really. Sephiroth still had the fame thus making him still the greatest of all time
Everything Crystal said is true Chibi, remember how I was saying that Genesis and Sephiroth in CC are more powerful than Base Weiss? It’s because they are equal.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Buster Sword wrote:
Everything Crystal said is true Chibi, remember how I was saying that Genesis and Sephiroth in CC are more powerful than Base Weiss? It’s because they are equal.
I know they are equal I’m just saying the title “Greatest SOLDIER” can also be determined by fame as well.
Yeah I saw the ending of DoC, he did say there is much work to be done, but we don’t know what he was talking about, think we’ll see him in another sequel? xD
Well just by looking at it, I know it’s better than DoC, that was a DMC wannabe, good story, but shit game play.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
I liked DoC’s story too, I hated the damn gameplay as well. I do think we will see Genesis and Weiss in a sequel, I mean, with Sephiroth practically gone for good(Or so we think) there needs to be someone to carry out being evil you know? Didn’t Kitase say he had ten more years of material? I doubt he is just going to make a bunch of Sephiroth return stories, I hope not anyway. As much as I like Sephiroth he can’t be returning over and over again.
Yeah shame that is for DoC, if the gameplay was better it would have been a great game, not just a good game. Sephiroth won’t come back imo for fear of ruining his character, and I think they should leave it that way or if he does come back he needs to win lol. I wonder what Genesis needs Weiss for though, because I assume Genesis is more powerful than Weiss anyway after DoC. Yeah I heard about that 10 years, I wonder the hell they have planned, 2-3 more games maybe xD
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
If he does come back, I really hope he doesnt pulls a damn arrogant twat thing from his ass again, I mean Cloud should have lost, EVERYBODY knew it, hell even Cloud did lol. I would die if something similar happens if he returns again lol.
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
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