| 30 Jun 2008 04:28 pm |
counting blue cars Rep: 53  Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 7,424 | Stix86 wrote:
so etain tell me this. do you say “eh”?
Eh? 
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| 30 Jun 2008 04:32 pm |
Regular Rep: 4 Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 314 OFFLINE | Etain wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
Maybe you should research your topic before you say anything.
I’ve dealt with that kind of stuff first hand unless you’re putting me off as a liar. My last post was actually less about Canada and more about liberalism. I’m not saying the Republicans are great because I hate them too but liberalism is doing more damage than good. When you are a white male then you will understand that white males truly are being discriminated against. Sometimes it just takes first hand witness to see or understand something otherwise it just slips through unnoticed.
For Europe I’ll let you do the research. It was actually in a couple books but I unfortunately can’t remember their titles.
In Britain, if that’s the right country, all the prisons are having their toilets torn out and faced towards Mecca, I think that’s what it’s called, because the Muslims considered it offensive.
Liberalism is failing Europe.
Health care. America’s health care has flaws but it’s better taking care of it yourself than relying on the government and having ridiculously high taxes. It doesn’t help anyone.
1. The poor can’t afford to pay higher taxes anyways.
2. It takes too damn long to be able to see a doctor. In Europe you have to wait a whole year before seeing the doctor so they have a lottery and if you win you can see one immediately. It’s sad.
3. Illegals and the like abuse the system and do not pay taxes. Same with school. They don’t pay income tax and they still get free education.
I admit the US has many issues and no system is perfect. No matter what someone is going to be on the bottom, we just try to help them out but with socialism everybody is dragged down.
It failed with communism. That should have been a lesson learnt.
Ah well I am referring strictly to Canada as that is the topic of this thread anyhow. So I’ll address the points that refer (or somewhat refer) to my country. Maybe once you live in my country, you’ll understand what I’m trying to say. Anyhow:
- white males are not discriminated against in Canada. At least not any more than any other group. In fact, they are significantly less discriminated against than the Native population.
- health care - it doesn’t take as long to see a doctor as you seem to think. Again, I am referring to Canada, not Europe. Yes there is a doctor shortage here. But a lot of people find ways to get the medical attention they need even if it’s not from a “family doctor”. Also I AM one of “the poor” who has to pay taxes. I’d still prefer to not have to be slapped with an exorbitant bill if I have health problems.
As for your last point....how did we suddenly go from talking about liberalism in a democracy to communism?
Please stop talking about discrimination against white males. I know you do not understand because I am a white male. White males have it just as hard as women and colored people. Try getting a job as a white male. It’s usually harder than anybody else because we have to be “DIVERSE." 'Diversity' is important. We don’t go by skill or how is more fit for the job but by diversity and the world thinks too many white males are on top. Again, it is less Canada and more liberalism. Liberalism does inherently discriminate against white males. Affirmative action and similar things are examples. The example is from the US but its an example of liberalism none the less.
People shouldn’t have to find a way to see a doctor.
It failed in all of Europe is apparently dragging Europe down. Eventually it will drag both the US and Canada down. As time goes on the issues will become larger and larger and more obvious, as it did with Europe.
Nobody wants to pay a massive bill but difference does higher taxes make except that you will most definitely be paying that massive bill in the long run except in a different from and it is a definite yes?
The poor are already having issues and may can barely cover themselves or are already living off the governments money. Are we going to tax them some more? Socialism and stuff won’t help them any more.
What they need is help finding a job. Raising taxes and giving them health care is only going to make it worse for them.
They need jobs. With good jobs they get money to take care of themselves and most of the time benefits.
Liberalism, democracy, and communism are closely tied together. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is an example...
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| 30 Jun 2008 04:41 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 314 OFFLINE | I noticed a lot of typos. Sorry for that. I type fast. ---
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| 30 Jun 2008 04:44 pm |
counting blue cars Rep: 53Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 7,424 | Di5turbing wrote:
Please stop talking about discrimination against white males. I know you do not understand because I am a white male. White males have it just as hard as women and colored people. Try getting a job as a white male. It’s usually harder than anybody else because we have to be “DIVERSE." 'Diversity' is important. Again, it is less Canada and more liberalism. Liberalism does inherently discriminate against white males. Affirmative action and similar things are examples. The example is from the US but its an example of liberalism none the less.
Again, I am strictly speaking about Canada. If you haven’t lived here or experienced Canada (i.e. travelled here enough to get a sense of the country), then how can you possibly generalize? I have male friends of multiple backgrounds here. I have never heard my white male friends complain. If they do, I will listen to what they have to say.
People shouldn’t have to find a way to see a doctor.
It failed in all of Europe is apparently dragging Europe down. Eventually it will drag both the US and Canada down. As time goes on the issues will become larger and larger and more obvious, as it did with Europe.
Nobody wants to pay a massive bill but difference does higher taxes make except that you will most definitely be paying that massive bill in the long run except in a different from and it is a definite yes?
That is a definite no. My taxes (only a portion of which goes to health care) are less than the sum of my income. Because of a medical condition if I had no health care I could expect to be slapped with bills greater than my income in the case of a medical emergency.
Taxes = a percentage of my income.
Health bills can = more than my income.
Basic math.
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| 30 Jun 2008 04:57 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 314 OFFLINE | Etain wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
Please stop talking about discrimination against white males. I know you do not understand because I am a white male. White males have it just as hard as women and colored people. Try getting a job as a white male. It’s usually harder than anybody else because we have to be “DIVERSE." 'Diversity' is important. Again, it is less Canada and more liberalism. Liberalism does inherently discriminate against white males. Affirmative action and similar things are examples. The example is from the US but its an example of liberalism none the less.
Again, I am strictly speaking about Canada. If you haven’t lived here or experienced Canada (i.e. travelled here enough to get a sense of the country), then how can you possibly generalize? I have male friends of multiple backgrounds here. I have never heard my white male friends complain. If they do, I will listen to what they have to say.
People shouldn’t have to find a way to see a doctor.
It failed in all of Europe is apparently dragging Europe down. Eventually it will drag both the US and Canada down. As time goes on the issues will become larger and larger and more obvious, as it did with Europe.
Nobody wants to pay a massive bill but difference does higher taxes make except that you will most definitely be paying that massive bill in the long run except in a different from and it is a definite yes?
That is a definite no. My taxes (only a portion of which goes to health care) are less than the sum of my income. Because of a medical condition if I had no health care I could expect to be slapped with bills greater than my income in the case of a medical emergency.
Taxes = a percentage of my income.
Health bills can = more than my income.
Basic math.
No, it’s everywhere. The work places have to be diverse. It will end when we never hear anybody say that word again. That diversity thing is false. Different colors doesn’t make anybody diverse. Diverse is is a person.
That’s why you get yourself insurance, etc, etc so the bills aren’t so big and when you do get a medical condition you are not just living off everybody else’s money. You may not be taking the hit financially but everybody else is. Everybody is affected. Taxes should go to public conveniences and requirements like roads. People can take care of their own health. People become too reliant on the government and let the government take care of them. Everything begins to deteriorate because the government covers everything. There becomes little reason to get a job. Just take the government’s money. Then nobody is working and the people who are working aren’t generating enough income for taxes and the government cant cover those people anymore.
Advanced math.
CAN YOU DANCE> I dOUBT IT!
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:04 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 314 OFFLINE | Etain wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
Please stop talking about discrimination against white males. I know you do not understand because I am a white male. White males have it just as hard as women and colored people. Try getting a job as a white male. It’s usually harder than anybody else because we have to be “DIVERSE." 'Diversity' is important. Again, it is less Canada and more liberalism. Liberalism does inherently discriminate against white males. Affirmative action and similar things are examples. The example is from the US but its an example of liberalism none the less.
Again, I am strictly speaking about Canada. If you haven’t lived here or experienced Canada (i.e. travelled here enough to get a sense of the country), then how can you possibly generalize? I have male friends of multiple backgrounds here. I have never heard my white male friends complain. If they do, I will listen to what they have to say.
People shouldn’t have to find a way to see a doctor.
It failed in all of Europe is apparently dragging Europe down. Eventually it will drag both the US and Canada down. As time goes on the issues will become larger and larger and more obvious, as it did with Europe.
Nobody wants to pay a massive bill but difference does higher taxes make except that you will most definitely be paying that massive bill in the long run except in a different from and it is a definite yes?
That is a definite no. My taxes (only a portion of which goes to health care) are less than the sum of my income. Because of a medical condition if I had no health care I could expect to be slapped with bills greater than my income in the case of a medical emergency.
Taxes = a percentage of my income.
Health bills can = more than my income.
Basic math.
No, it’s everywhere. The work places have to be diverse. It will end when we never hear anybody say that word again. That diversity thing is false. Different colors doesn’t make anybody diverse. Diverse is is a person.
That’s why you get yourself insurance, etc, etc so the bills aren’t so big and when you do get a medical condition you are not just living off everybody else’s money. You may not be taking the hit financially but everybody else is. Everybody is affected. Taxes should go to public conveniences and requirements like roads. People can take care of their own health. People become too reliant on the government and let the government take care of them. Everything begins to deteriorate because the government covers everything. There becomes little reason to get a job. Just take the government’s money. Then nobody is working and the people who are working aren’t generating enough income for taxes and the government cant cover those people anymore.
CAN YOU DANCE> I dOUBT IT!
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:08 pm |
counting blue cars Rep: 53Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 7,424 | Di5turbing wrote:
Etain wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
Please stop talking about discrimination against white males. I know you do not understand because I am a white male. White males have it just as hard as women and colored people. Try getting a job as a white male. It’s usually harder than anybody else because we have to be “DIVERSE." 'Diversity' is important. Again, it is less Canada and more liberalism. Liberalism does inherently discriminate against white males. Affirmative action and similar things are examples. The example is from the US but its an example of liberalism none the less.
Again, I am strictly speaking about Canada. If you haven’t lived here or experienced Canada (i.e. travelled here enough to get a sense of the country), then how can you possibly generalize? I have male friends of multiple backgrounds here. I have never heard my white male friends complain. If they do, I will listen to what they have to say.
People shouldn’t have to find a way to see a doctor.
It failed in all of Europe is apparently dragging Europe down. Eventually it will drag both the US and Canada down. As time goes on the issues will become larger and larger and more obvious, as it did with Europe.
Nobody wants to pay a massive bill but difference does higher taxes make except that you will most definitely be paying that massive bill in the long run except in a different from and it is a definite yes?
That is a definite no. My taxes (only a portion of which goes to health care) are less than the sum of my income. Because of a medical condition if I had no health care I could expect to be slapped with bills greater than my income in the case of a medical emergency.
Taxes = a percentage of my income.
Health bills can = more than my income.
Basic math.
No, it’s everywhere. The work places have to be diverse. It will end when we never hear anybody say that word again. That diversity thing is false. Different colors doesn’t make anybody diverse. Diverse is is a person.
That’s why you get yourself insurance, etc, etc so the bills aren’t so big and when you do get a medical condition you are not just living off everybody else’s money. You may not be taking the hit financially but everybody else is. Everybody is affected. Taxes should go to public conveniences and requirements like roads. People can take care of their own health. People become too reliant on the government and let the government take care of them. Everything begins to deteriorate because the government covers everything. There becomes little reason to get a job. Just take the government’s money. Then nobody is working and the people who are working aren’t generating enough income for taxes and teh government cant coevrt hose peopel anymore.
“Everything begins to deteriorate”:
Our dollar is up. Employment is up. Minimum wage is up. We have no housing crisis. How is that deterioration?
“just take the government’s money..."
Ok now it just sounds like you’re spouting some sort of propaganda. It’s difficult to know what precisely you are referring to - but people don’t live off of free health care. Sorry, they don’t .
If you’re referring to welfare or disability...do you know how little money people get from that in either of our countries? If that isn’t enough incentive for people to work I don’t know what is. And as I mentioned before, our employment rate is up. I guess people are working . Odd that.
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:15 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 314 OFFLINE | Etain wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
Etain wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
Please stop talking about discrimination against white males. I know you do not understand because I am a white male. White males have it just as hard as women and colored people. Try getting a job as a white male. It’s usually harder than anybody else because we have to be “DIVERSE." 'Diversity' is important. Again, it is less Canada and more liberalism. Liberalism does inherently discriminate against white males. Affirmative action and similar things are examples. The example is from the US but its an example of liberalism none the less.
Again, I am strictly speaking about Canada. If you haven’t lived here or experienced Canada (i.e. travelled here enough to get a sense of the country), then how can you possibly generalize? I have male friends of multiple backgrounds here. I have never heard my white male friends complain. If they do, I will listen to what they have to say.
People shouldn’t have to find a way to see a doctor.
It failed in all of Europe is apparently dragging Europe down. Eventually it will drag both the US and Canada down. As time goes on the issues will become larger and larger and more obvious, as it did with Europe.
Nobody wants to pay a massive bill but difference does higher taxes make except that you will most definitely be paying that massive bill in the long run except in a different from and it is a definite yes?
That is a definite no. My taxes (only a portion of which goes to health care) are less than the sum of my income. Because of a medical condition if I had no health care I could expect to be slapped with bills greater than my income in the case of a medical emergency.
Taxes = a percentage of my income.
Health bills can = more than my income.
Basic math.
No, it’s everywhere. The work places have to be diverse. It will end when we never hear anybody say that word again. That diversity thing is false. Different colors doesn’t make anybody diverse. Diverse is is a person.
That’s why you get yourself insurance, etc, etc so the bills aren’t so big and when you do get a medical condition you are not just living off everybody else’s money. You may not be taking the hit financially but everybody else is. Everybody is affected. Taxes should go to public conveniences and requirements like roads. People can take care of their own health. People become too reliant on the government and let the government take care of them. Everything begins to deteriorate because the government covers everything. There becomes little reason to get a job. Just take the government’s money. Then nobody is working and the people who are working aren’t generating enough income for taxes and teh government cant coevrt hose peopel anymore.
“Everything begins to deteriorate”:
Our dollar is up. Employment is up. Minimum wage is up. We have no housing crisis. How is that deterioration?
“just take the government’s money..."
Ok now it just sounds like you’re spouting some sort of propaganda. It’s difficult to know what precisely you are referring to - but people don’t live off of free health care. Sorry, they don’t .
If you’re referring to welfare or disability...do you know how little money people get from that in either of our countries? If that isn’t enough incentive for people to work I don’t know what is. And as I mentioned before, our employment rate is up. I guess people are working . Odd that.
That’s how it works. You get a boom and then it deteriorates. Europe has shown us our future.
Disability is one thing but welfare is something else. Yes, you CAN live off of welfare. People do it all the time. Combine that with free healthcare and being exempt from taxes and there’s no need to work. You can sit on the couch all day watching tv. If you cheat the system it gets even better. Do you know how much welfare is already taking out of the US? People on welfare are not working. Only the single moms are working. The rest don’t even need welfare. They just need a job and are too lazy to get one and don’t need to with the government covering them. That’s why the US has so many problems with people cheating the system. It’s too damn easy to cheat and there’s nothing can be done about it.
Also, the employment rate doesn’t include everyone when it’s factored.
It’s a combination of both health care, tax exempts, and welfare. Free health care makes it a lot easier for people that want to sit on the couch. They get money from the government, don’t need to pay taxes, and don’t need to worry about medical bills.
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:24 pm |
strychnine in the guacamole Rep: 47 Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 16,098 OFFLINE | *Sides with Di5stubing*
It’s true. It’s happening here in America as we speak. Immigrants / Mexicans got over $58 billion dollars last year just for being a minority in the U.S. They get cheaper housing advantages with specialized interest rates, food stamps, etc. the list goes on. More than three people per minute illegally enter the U.S. from Mexico. They run to the nearest Emergency room, have a baby (We take care of the medical), and are now obligated to take care of that baby in the U.S getting mucho grande $$$ assistance from the U.S. Government because the child is born a U.S. Citizen. lol ---
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:41 pm |
counting blue cars Rep: 53Joined: 03 May 2006 Posts: 7,424 | *Sigh*. Xtrm I was trying to talk about Canada. Not the U.S. (except for my comment on the amount of welfare). As I don’t live there I don’t pretend to understand the intricacies of your particular system. *cough* As I live and work here, I do understand my own. As Di5turbing doesn’t live and work here, he’s trying to make comments about the state of my country while referring to the U.S. and Europe  .
No matter how many times I say that, no one seems to actually read the word “CANADA”. It’s rather like when people couldn’t figure out I’m female lol.
*Reads topic name*. CANADA! lmao
On a more humorous note:
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:48 pm |
strychnine in the guacamole Rep: 47Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 16,098 OFFLINE | Etain wrote:
*Sigh*. Xtrm I was trying to talk about Canada. Not the U.S. (except for my comment on the amount of welfare). As I don’t live there I don’t pretend to understand the intricacies of your particular system. *cough* As I live and work here, I do understand my own. As Di5turbing doesn’t live and work here, he’s trying to make comments about the state of my country while referring to the U.S. and Europe .
No matter how many times I say that, no one seems to actually read the word “CANADA”. It’s rather like when people couldn’t figure out I’m female lol.
*Reads topic name*. CANADA! lmao
Whoops!
*Shuts my own gawd damn mouth*
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| 30 Jun 2008 05:56 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 314 OFFLINE | When the illegal immigrants are done sucking everything of the US they are going to jump borders to Canada where they will suck everything out of the Canadians and it will be even easier with free health care, etc. Nobody is going bother them. ---
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| 30 Jun 2008 06:06 pm |
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| 30 Jun 2008 07:21 pm |
what? what? Rep: 43 Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 12,479 OFFLINE | hehe the eh thing i think phil knows more about it then i do lol,and he is British i am french Canadian  ,,,ok and for the medical care i gues for the payed thing yes its better but for the time to wait it depends u have to wait ,,for an appointment for special reasons,,lets say like i,,am 40 now and i would like to have a full medical exam well yes ill have to wait a year,,it depends on what u need to be done at the docs
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| 30 Jun 2008 07:54 pm |
in soviet russia, grunt kills you! Rep: 44 Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 7,184 OFFLINE | it depends on what area you want to go to ---
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| 30 Jun 2008 08:51 pm |
what? what? Rep: 43Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 12,479 OFFLINE | jomas the grunt wrote:
it depends on what area you want to go to
oh yeah u are kinda right there i live in the province of quebec
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| 30 Jun 2008 08:57 pm |
in soviet russia, grunt kills you! Rep: 44Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 7,184 OFFLINE | mimi38 wrote:
jomas the grunt wrote:
it depends on what area you want to go to
oh yeah u are kinda right there i live in the province of quebec
as do i
i live up up north
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| 30 Jun 2008 09:01 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 56 Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 4,088 OFFLINE | I live in Canada.
Most people think that we’re all about hunting moose, and waering beaver hats, and maple syrup, and whatnot. It’s not even close to that, unless you go to Nunavut or something. Ontario, Quebec, New Bruinswick, Nova Scotia, and British Columbia are very much the same as US. And it’s not that cold, most people think it’s snowing 24/7 and we live in igloo’s and stuff. It is colder here, but average waether. No blizzards or anything like that. ---
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| 30 Jun 2008 09:25 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | I dont what its like and I dont even care about canada... ---
 
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| 30 Jun 2008 10:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25 Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 1,111 OFFLINE | I like living here, I dont really say “eh” at all. I dont hear anyone say eh either. Maybe its more of 'where your at' then as a whole. As the whole Canadian minority are not nice chaps who say eh and love hockey.
Ive only been to America for a few hockey tournaments and games. Other then that I really cannot talk about it. ---
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