| 06 Aug 2008 07:09 pm |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | Corrosives from what I remember don’t usually spread through the body seeing it just instantly eats away at whatever it comes in contact with. This poison does as stated by Crocodile.
Even so it seems to me that you’d actually put a biological agent which can only shut down cells or cause them to malfunction over a corrosive that actually burns through cells,muscle fibers Bones,etc. ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:16 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26 Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
Corrosives from what I remember don’t usually spread through the body seeing it just instantly eats away at whatever it comes in contact with. This poison does as stated by Crocodile.
Even so it seems to me that you’d actually put a biological agent which can only shut down cells or cause them to malfunction over a corrosive that actually burns through cells,muscle fibers Bones,etc.
exactly the two substances are completely different, luffy surviving crocodiles poison doesnt mean he could survive a poison dart frog
two milligrams of its poison can kill large animals
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:28 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | Luffy was knocking Sea Kings that easily dwarf 150 ton blue whales miles into the air near the beginning of the series.
Again your comparing Luffy’s physical status to human fodder
Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human fodder
Luffy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animal fodder.
Two milligrams of it can kill large animals
A few drops of Croc’s poison can melt those same animals... ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:31 pm |
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:32 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | I don’t even know why they’re still arguing despite the heap of evidence already presented. ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:33 pm |
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:35 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | LOL For a minute I thought there was a bug on my screen. Actually yeah, Luffy starting Chasing down Chopper the first time he see’s him in his deer form. He might convince Sanji to quickly prepare a meal. ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:44 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
Luffy was knocking Sea Kings that easily dwarf 150 ton blue whales miles into the air near the beginning of the series.
Again your comparing Luffy’s physical status to human fodder
Luffy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human fodder
Luffy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Animal fodder.
Two milligrams of it can kill large animals
A few drops of Croc’s poison can melt those same animals...
....youre comparing to different things, they kill two different ways
not to mention beast boy with his animals forms is faster and could use hi s common bloodlust strategy of using an extremely small bug to fly inside someone and then exapnd
luffy couldnt handle a blue whale in his head
nor could he handle it if beast boy destroyed the boat.
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| 06 Aug 2008 08:45 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
I don’t even know why they’re still arguing despite the heap of evidence already presented.
....by heap of evidence you ofcourse mean the inumerable ways in which beastboy can destroy luffy?
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| 06 Aug 2008 09:22 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | Two different ways obviously seeing that Croc’s poison again is vastly superior than that of a frogs hence the melting rocks part...
Beastboy is no means faster than Luffy, it’s not even close.
Luffy has been casually bullet timing as far back as the Buggy Arc. Meaning he already surpassed Supersonic speeds seeing that bullets are faster than sound. After this he still couldn’t keep up with Kuro initially who knew an imcomplete version of Soru but grew more adept and managed to win in the end. A little after the Crocodile Arc he could knocked a Bellamy who could do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPtqiZCoQoM
out with one punch. He was able to fight with Enel later on during the skypiea arc who could move at lightning speed . Even then he still got speed blitzed by the weaker members of cp9. Here are some speed calculations for them (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=256628)
During the latest Chapters his first Mate Zoro effortlessly dodged a light speed attack from Kuma with severe injuries which include broken bones.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/
Luffy is even faster than him seeing Zoro got speedblitzed earlier by Oz who gave him those broken bones who Luffy defeated.
Even if I follow your ridiculous scenario of Beastboy actually outpacing Luffy enough to get into his head andexpand. Luffy could squeeze his head crushing Beast boy. During his fight with Crocodile he not only punched through four Desert Spadas http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/15/
which have been shown to slice through a desert http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/178/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/178/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/200/12/
but chained it up with a Gomu Gomu no storm that not only punched over a hundred feet of Solid bedrock which as a result causing a vast number of the surrounding buildings to topple wrecking what looks like nearly half the city.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/16/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/17-18/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/19/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/20/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/21/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/02/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/06/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/17/
He’s been shown by calculations to drag and attack with a 700 ton golden ball one handed up a 45 degree angle with little evidence there was any reduction in speed or excess effort on his part during the skypeia arc http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7...ce28315ix8.jpg http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/8...ce28510eo3.png http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5...2981213ap4.png
After all this he still had his rear end handed to him by some of the weakest members of Cp9 and demonstrated his fustration by pushing a couple of ten thousand tons skyscrapers apart from a mute position restricting him to where he could only bring about 5-10% of his strength to bear;. http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2318/onepiece36018zh3.png http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3593/onepiece3631415hd7.png
Not to mention he tanked multiple punches from Oz in his nightmare form when a single punch was shown to split an island in two.
Uh doesn’t matter if the ship gets destroyed Luffy as far back as the Baratie Arc fought Krieg on scattered floating debris of a shipwreck...
Inumerable ways?
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| 06 Aug 2008 09:41 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
Two different ways obviously seeing that Croc’s poison again is vastly superior than that of a frogs hence the melting rocks part...
Beastboy is no means faster than Luffy, it’s not even close.
Luffy has been casually bullet timing as far back as the Buggy Arc. Meaning he already surpassed Supersonic speeds seeing that bullets are faster than sound. After this he still couldn’t keep up with Kuro initially who knew an imcomplete version of Soru but grew more adept and managed to win in the end. A little after the Crocodile Arc he could knocked a Bellamy who could do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPtqiZCoQoM
out with one punch. He was able to fight with Enel later on during the skypiea arc who could move at lightning speed . Even then he still got speed blitzed by the weaker members of cp9. Here are some speed calculations for them (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=256628)
During the latest Chapters his first Mate Zoro effortlessly dodged a light speed attack from Kuma with severe injuries which include broken bones.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/
Luffy is even faster than him seeing Zoro got speedblitzed earlier by Oz who gave him those broken bones who Luffy defeated.
Even if I follow your ridiculous scenario of Beastboy actually outpacing Luffy enough to get into his head andexpand. Luffy could squeeze his head crushing Beast boy. During his fight with Crocodile he not only punched through four Desert Spadas http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/15/
which have been shown to slice through a desert http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/178/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/178/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/200/12/
but chained it up with a Gomu Gomu no storm that not only punched over a hundred feet of Solid bedrock which as a result causing a vast number of the surrounding buildings to topple wrecking what looks like nearly half the city.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/16/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/17-18/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/19/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/20/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/21/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/02/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/06/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/17/
He’s been shown by calculations to drag and attack with a 700 ton golden ball one handed up a 45 degree angle with little evidence there was any reduction in speed or excess effort on his part during the skypeia arc http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7...ce28315ix8.jpg http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/8...ce28510eo3.png http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5...2981213ap4.png
After all this he still had his rear end handed to him by some of the weakest members of Cp9 and demonstrated his fustration by pushing a couple of ten thousand tons skyscrapers apart from a mute position restricting him to where he could only bring about 5-10% of his strength to bear;. http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2318/onepiece36018zh3.png http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3593/onepiece3631415hd7.png
Not to mention he tanked multiple punches from Oz in his nightmare form when a single punch was shown to split an island in two.
Uh doesn’t matter if the ship gets destroyed Luffy as far back as the Baratie Arc fought Krieg on scattered floating debris of a shipwreck...
Inumerable ways?
Sorry frog poison would be ineffective and so would trying to expand his head.
1. make those links...no one s gonna copy and paste all of those
2. dodging bullets doesnt make you as fast as one, if yo uwant to argue that all of the teen titans are super sonic speedsters seeing as they have all dodged bullets
3. you still havent proved luffy can hit something moving around 145 miles an hour that he can barely see, not to mention beast boy can turn into a Tardigrade which - other than being too small to see) can survive ANYTHING luffy could thorw at him.
4. if you want to argue luff ywould attack too fast for beast boy to change, beast boy has changed fast enoug hto keep up with kid flash...wh otrumps luffy in speed by far
5. never did I say his strength matter, ive only argued that luffy wouldnt be able to hit him.
6. no proof given that luffy could survive cellular degeneration and such...if he has gotten sick he will be killed by touching a poisonous dart from
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| 06 Aug 2008 09:56 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | 1.I’m new here and in general know little about the computer so I don’t have any idea how. If you don’t want to look then your going to have to take my word for it since you have yet to provide any proof of the claims you’ve made about beast boy. Plus it doesn’t even take that long to copy and paste, it’s not like your typing out the web addresses.
2. There’s a difference between dodging someones aim and actually bullet-timing. Bullet timing means you can react to bullets, an example of dodging someones aim is similar to what batman does. Straw hats have been reacting to bullets since near the beginning thus making them at that point faster than bullets.
3.Look at the scans; Bullets on average travel at speeds upwards of 900 mph. Remember the force of Luffy’s punch was able to create a hole through a Tidal Wave spanning hundreds of feet in the air. Plus Gear 2 can melt a tardigrade. It is over the boiling point seeing that steam is rising from his body.
4.In movement speed yes, Reaction and Attack speed no. Say for example you have a world class track runner vs Bruce Lee. In movement speed world class track runner easily beats him. But in terms of attack and reaction speed Bruce Lee stomps track runner. Which is why despite Kid Flash’s and in generall all the different versions of flash superior movement speed; they still in many cases get their rear ends kicked because their reaction time isn’t on par. Even so are you sure cause I just saw a thread http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/nightwing-and-beast-boy-vs-kid-flash-and-speedy/18407/?page=last
6. Um Cellular destruction>>>>>>>>>>>> Cellular degeneration...
Not to mention since Luffy is bloodlusted I haven’t included his latest ability.
He seems to be able to use spirit energy now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luffy
“Luffy has also demonstrated the innate ability to intimidate a foe into submission without throwing a single punch, much like his hero Red-haired Shanks, who did the same to the local sea monster at Luffy’s village (episode 4/chapter 1 of the book).[11] This ability is known as “spirit” in the world of One Piece, and is exhibited by Shanks, Luffy and, more recently, Silvers Rayleigh" ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 10:04 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 54Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 3,979 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
Two different ways obviously seeing that Croc’s poison again is vastly superior than that of a frogs hence the melting rocks part...
Beastboy is no means faster than Luffy, it’s not even close.
Luffy has been casually bullet timing as far back as the Buggy Arc. Meaning he already surpassed Supersonic speeds seeing that bullets are faster than sound. After this he still couldn’t keep up with Kuro initially who knew an imcomplete version of Soru but grew more adept and managed to win in the end. A little after the Crocodile Arc he could knocked a Bellamy who could do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPtqiZCoQoM
out with one punch. He was able to fight with Enel later on during the skypiea arc who could move at lightning speed . Even then he still got speed blitzed by the weaker members of cp9. Here are some speed calculations for them (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=256628)
During the latest Chapters his first Mate Zoro effortlessly dodged a light speed attack from Kuma with severe injuries which include broken bones.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/
Luffy is even faster than him seeing Zoro got speedblitzed earlier by Oz who gave him those broken bones who Luffy defeated.
Even if I follow your ridiculous scenario of Beastboy actually outpacing Luffy enough to get into his head andexpand. Luffy could squeeze his head crushing Beast boy. During his fight with Crocodile he not only punched through four Desert Spadas http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/15/
which have been shown to slice through a desert http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/178/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/178/05/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/200/12/
but chained it up with a Gomu Gomu no storm that not only punched over a hundred feet of Solid bedrock which as a result causing a vast number of the surrounding buildings to topple wrecking what looks like nearly half the city.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/16/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/17-18/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/19/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/20/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/209/21/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/02/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/06/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/210/17/
He’s been shown by calculations to drag and attack with a 700 ton golden ball one handed up a 45 degree angle with little evidence there was any reduction in speed or excess effort on his part during the skypeia arc http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7...ce28315ix8.jpg http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/8...ce28510eo3.png http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5...2981213ap4.png
After all this he still had his rear end handed to him by some of the weakest members of Cp9 and demonstrated his fustration by pushing a couple of ten thousand tons skyscrapers apart from a mute position restricting him to where he could only bring about 5-10% of his strength to bear;. http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2318/onepiece36018zh3.png http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/3593/onepiece3631415hd7.png
Not to mention he tanked multiple punches from Oz in his nightmare form when a single punch was shown to split an island in two.
Uh doesn’t matter if the ship gets destroyed Luffy as far back as the Baratie Arc fought Krieg on scattered floating debris of a shipwreck...
Inumerable ways?
Sorry frog poison would be ineffective and so would trying to expand his head.
I am sorry Trackz, but you just got pwned.
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| 06 Aug 2008 10:40 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | Sorry frog poison would be ineffective and so would trying to expand his head.
proof that a whale in his head wouldnt kill him
prove he oculd handle cell degeneration
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| 06 Aug 2008 10:48 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | So you chose to ignore practically everything I’ve said.
I also forgot to mention that Zoro as far back as whiskey peak was able to slice a Booger in half flinged at him. Luffy>>Zoro
I’m not saying a whale in his head couldn’t probably kill him, Even if he does somehow get past Luffy he would never let it expand that much and he has more than enough strength to squeeze BeastBoy to death easily.
Poison anyway you look at it is cellular degeneration
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/205/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/206/09/
This one can do both cellular degeneration and cellular destruction.
Now you have to provide Proof
Luffy just doesnt squash BeastBoy.
Proof he doesn’t kill Beastboy with his first punch.
Proof he can stand up to his spirit energy without fainting.
Proof that he can sustain the shockwave of Luffy’s punches in bug form or any form in particular.
Proof that the frog venom has killed someone of Luffy’s durability; you know someone who had a mountain fall on top of them and casually complained he couldn’t move which was way back during the Dorry and Broggy Arc where he was a weakling compared to what he is now.
Proof that BeastBoy can attack at Faster than Light Speeds.
Proof that Beastboy has ever transformed into any of the animals you suggested. ---
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| 06 Aug 2008 11:11 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
So you chose to ignore practically everything I’ve said.
I’m not saying a whale in his head couldn’t probably kill him. I’m saying he would never let it expand that much and he has more than enough strength to squeeze BeastBoy to death easily.
Poison anyway you look at it is cellular degeneration
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/205/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/206/09/
This one can do both cellular degeneration and cellular destruction.
Now you have to provide Proof
Luffy just doesnt squash BeastBoy.
Proof he doesn’t kill Beastboy with his first punch.
Proof he can stand up to his spirit energy without fainting.
Proof that he can sustain the shockwave of Luffy’s punches in bug form or any form in particular.
Proof that the frog venom has killed someone of Luffy’s durability; you know someone who had a mountain fall on top of them and casually complained he couldn’t move which was way back during the Dorry and Broggy Arc where he was a weakling compared to what he is now.
Proof that BeastBoy can attack at Faster than Light Speeds.
Proof that Beastboy has ever transformed into any of the animals you suggested.
no....they are very different, its like jumping into a fire it destroys cells ubt yo uca nsurvive, this poison actually destroy so many cells that the body will stop functioning, unless you have proof luffy has an enhanced immune system (has he ever gotte nsick?)
....beast boy doesnt expand slowly, he changes in under a second,, he would be a bug one second a blue whale the next
beast boy has faster reaction time seeing as he was able to change fast enoug hto counter kid flashes punches (kid flash is faster than anyone in one piece) meaning lffys first punch would probably miss
...durability has nothing to do with poisoning, goku can take planet desroying blasts and was almost killed by a virus...unless ou have proof luffys has an enhanced immune system and could handle suc ha poison then yes it would kill him
what has the shockwave from his punch ever done? not to mentio nhe can turn into bugs to osmall for the human eye to even see
beast boy doesnt need to attack at faster than light speeds, luffy is no where near lightspeed
....beast boy transforms into any animal in the animal kingdom thats his power, thats like asking yo utp prove luffy can strretc hhis pinky toe.
put [url[/url] around your links no one is going to copy and paste all of those links
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| 07 Aug 2008 12:00 am |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | If you stay in a fire you die...
He’s never been shown to get sick.
Your continued attempts at ignoring Facts is getting annoying
CROCODILE CONFIRMS its a poison and poisons attack the immune system
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/205/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/206/09/
A Poison that does exactly what you SAID
" that the body will stop functioning,"
In fact your commiting a no-limits Fallacy because your comparing an inferior feat in which your poison kills human fodder to a superior feat in Luffy who is Superhuman and the poison itself not only destroys cells but is powerful enough to melt rock.
Dude a bullet travels a little over 340 meters per second. Luffy’s been bullet timing since the Buggy ARC and because of this superior speed he can’t even get past him. Transforming into a bug so small that he can barely see is a mute point since “Zoro as far back as whiskey peak was able to slice a Booger in half flinged at him. Luffy>>Zoro”
Was Kid Flash using the speed force? I think not.
A virus is different from poison...
Can you please read my posts “force of Luffy’s punch was able to create a hole through a Tidal Wave spanning hundreds of feet in the air."
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/
Luffy is even faster than him seeing Zoro got speedblitzed earlier by Oz who gave him those broken bones who Luffy defeated.
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| 07 Aug 2008 12:15 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | unlinkedsaber wrote:
If you stay in a fire you die...
He’s never been shown to get sick.
Your continued attempts at ignoring Facts is getting annoying
CROCODILE CONFIRMS its a poison and poisons attack the immune system
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/205/15/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/206/09/
A Poison that does exactly what you SAID
" that the body will stop functioning,"
In fact your commiting a no-limits Fallacy because your comparing an inferior feat in which your poison kills human fodder to a superior feat in Luffy who is Superhuman and the poison itself not only destroys cells but is powerful enough to melt rock.
Dude a bullet travels a little over 340 meters per second. Luffy’s been bullet timing since the Buggy ARC and because of this superior speed he can’t even get past him. Transforming into a bug so small that he can barely see is a mute point since “Zoro as far back as whiskey peak was able to slice a Booger in half flinged at him. Luffy>>Zoro”
Was Kid Flash using the speed force? I think not.
A virus is different from poison...
Can you please read my posts “force of Luffy’s punch was able to create a hole through a Tidal Wave spanning hundreds of feet in the air."
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/04/ http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/
Luffy is even faster than him seeing Zoro got speedblitzed earlier by Oz who gave him those broken bones who Luffy defeated.
....that isnt a no limits fallacy seeing as an enhanced immune system isnt a part of luffys power set :/ meaning if the poison was able to be pushed out by luffys will pwoer it probably wasnt that poisonous
no one in one piece is light speed, and youre trying to use abc logic, “luffy is faster than this person, whose faster than this person, who did this”, no things dont work like that.
however you want to use abc logic fine, beast boy was able to beat an enhanced version of cyborg who has been able to hit supergirl, supergirl>>>>>>>>>>>>>>luffy in terms of speed....see why that doesnt work
you have to use luffys feats, not zoros to prov eluffys fast. and again bullet dodging doesnt put him at super sonic level seeing as robin and basically ever hero has done taht before
and the forc eof the punch doesnt matter if he cant see waht hs punching...unless you also have scans of luffy being able to see organisms on the cellular level
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| 07 Aug 2008 12:50 am |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 237 OFFLINE | Pushed out by Luffy’s will power???
Now your starting to make stuff up. IT wasn’t stated or shown and you are now using a Non-sequitor fallacy.Power Set?? Luffy’s only power is his devil fruit rubber ability. Anything else including strength, speed durability is entirely on how much he has trained, how much he has overcome, etc.
I’m sorry Are you blind?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/04/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/484/12/
Zoro clearly is.
Zoro = Luffy in the One Piece data book, However
Luffy is confirmed by his feats in the manga to be superior to Zoro.
Your making the fallacy of Proof by example http://obd.wikispaces.com/Fallacy
{21. Proof by example
. This type of fallacy involves someone citing one example of something as proof of a general rule.
Example: “Superman was tagged by Solomon Grundy, who is slow, therefore Superman can be tagged by anyone as fast or faster than Grundy."
The person ignores the fact that this could have been a statistical anomaly, and that it doesn’t necessarily hold true all the time.
Another example: “Deidara defeated the Sanbi Bijuu, therefore he will always win a fight against a Bijuu, even the full nine - tails Kyuubi."}
Anything above 340 m/s is supersonic, Bullets on average go
at speeds of over 600 to 700 m/s.
Huh now that I think about it Luffy could survive a whale in his head without having to do anything for quite a while.
Rob Lucci in his Leopard form is roughly around 10ft in height
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/349/04-05/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/349/06/
Luffy blew up the length of his fist to at the least 40ft
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/421/18-19/
The human head is roughly 4 to 5 times bigger than the hand when it is enclosed in a fist.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/HeadAnthropometry.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/HandAnthropometry.JPG
The average size of a blue whale is 70 - 80ft the Biggest is about 110ft
Thus it because Luffy’s head being 4-5 times bigger than his fist and he can extend the size of his fist to roughly 40 ft means Luffy’s head can grow to a size of 160ft to 200 ft.
I see your amping up the No-limits fallacy to epic heights. BeastBoy can turn into microbes now despite not having demonstrated this ability before.
"....beast boy transforms into any animal in the animal kingdom thats his power, thats like asking yo utp prove luffy can strretc hhis pinky toe."
Dude Luffy’s toe has already stretched, it was shown when he began using Gear 3. In fact practically every part of his body has been shown to stretch with the possible exception of his private part but I doubt they will show that.
Beastboy has the ability to turn into animals seeing the fact he hasn’t turned into creatures this small shows that he hasn’t seen them or they are completely useless in battle. Hence the fact that if you turn into a Cell like organism such as a Mycoplasma genitalium you ignore the all important fact that such CELL like critters CAN’T FLYYYYY much less move an inch over a period of a month. So expecting him to fly into Luffy’s mouth as a microbe is an absolute joke.
Even so they’re bloodlusted so it doesn’t matter. Luffy see’s BeastBoy now he’s gone launches a Gomu Gomu no fireworks an attack where he goes ballistic attacking in all directions with fist and punches.
Not to mention he has spirit energy now. Spirit Energy has been shown to be powerful enough to cause an entire room full of pirates to faint. How much more so for a single celled organism...
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| 07 Aug 2008 11:20 am |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,042 OFFLINE | first what I’d like you to understand is that this is by no means a sweep for beast boy, in fact it is entirely possible for luffy to win as possible.
you can say luffy is superior to zolo/zoro however that doesnt mean you can use zolos feats and say luffy can do the same. its called ABC logic, its not usable. its like this, beast boy has taken out cyborg who has taken out supergirl...so by your logic beastboy>supergirl, feats can dictate that someone is superior but you cant use someone elses feats for this character
and no Im merely using youre strategy. luffy is faster than zolo, zolo was able to do this, so luffy should be able to do this. no it doesnt work like that.
no blowing up his fist is different than his head, unless you have proof his skeletal structure can be blown up to that size too, not to mention beast boy could just as easily make his way to the brain and blow up from in there.
and no, beast boy knows pretty much everything about all animals. he is actually very intelligent not like his cartoon counterpart. he has turned into a swarm of flies, a poisonous spider, and so on. he has shown the ability to turn into any animaal when the situation calls for it. hes canged fast enough to react with cyborg and react to kid flash, both who have faster reaction speeds than luffy.
and there are bugs too small for the human eye to see such as the Guadeloupe which is only .17 mm or a swarm of horse flies.
and you still have no proof luffy is super sonic in speed, even robin has dodged bullets, so is he as fast as luffy? ---
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