| 17 Jul 2008 12:27 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,009 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
Do you not see your straw man? You have no idea that I am no even adressing your bs straw man Im trying to get you to see it. So how do you make a comeback from a response that isnt even a response to me.
Wow, coming from the guy who said opinions don’t matter, if you don’t want to answer why you said that, then be my guest, because you are making a habit of ignoring why you even said it in the first place. How do you make a comeback? Answer why you said opinions doesn’t matter, that is what we were talking about, but you’d rather claim I’m pulling a strawman than answer the question. Hahaha lol bs strawman, great way to avoid something.
Opinions don’t matter it wont change the facts.
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that objects are attracted to the centrer of the planet?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the planet weights more then a human?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we can not survive in a vacuum with out help?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we are related to every living thing on the planet? (so far once ai come along this wont be true)
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that most disease are cause by microorganism?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the moon orbits the earth?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the earth orbits the sun?
Keep your straw man to yourself. --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.Last edited 17 Jul 2008 12:32 am by Gplex | |
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| 17 Jul 2008 12:30 am |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | Uh, I honestly thought we were talking about what created life, not opinions effecting facts. o.o ---
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| 17 Jul 2008 12:33 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,009 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
Uh, I honestly thought we were talking about what created life, not opinions effecting facts. o.o
Ah he started focusing on 1 part of my argument, I could just let his strawman go.. --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 17 Jul 2008 01:38 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Buster Sword wrote:
Do you not see your straw man? You have no idea that I am no even adressing your bs straw man Im trying to get you to see it. So how do you make a comeback from a response that isnt even a response to me.
Wow, coming from the guy who said opinions don’t matter, if you don’t want to answer why you said that, then be my guest, because you are making a habit of ignoring why you even said it in the first place. How do you make a comeback? Answer why you said opinions doesn’t matter, that is what we were talking about, but you’d rather claim I’m pulling a strawman than answer the question. Hahaha lol bs strawman, great way to avoid something.
Opinions don’t matter it wont change the facts.
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that objects are attracted to the centrer of the planet?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the planet weights more then a human?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we can not survive in a vacuum with out help?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we are related to every living thing on the planet? (so far once ai come along this wont be true)
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that most disease are cause by microorganism?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the moon orbits the earth?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the earth orbits the sun?
Keep your straw man to yourself.
Have you figure it out that you are full of Bull shit since you said Islam wipe out 100 millions of people during crusade...???
indeed you are the strawmen gplex... ---

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| 17 Jul 2008 09:46 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,009 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Have you figure it out that you are full of Bull shit since you said Islam wipe out 100 millions of people during crusade...???
indeed you are the strawmen gplex...
Actually it was your straw man, and stop draggin your bs across multiple topics. --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 17 Jul 2008 02:31 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 33  Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,327 OFFLINE | Opinions don’t matter it wont change the facts.
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that objects are attracted to the centrer of the planet?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the planet weights more then a human?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we can not survive in a vacuum with out help?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we are related to every living thing on the planet? (so far once ai come along this wont be true)
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that most disease are cause by microorganism?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the moon orbits the earth?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the earth orbits the sun?
Keep your straw man to yourself.
Did you answer my question? My point was specifically to do with this thread, not science.
Keep on using your strawman defence if you so wish.
Uh, I honestly thought we were talking about what created life, not opinions effecting facts. o.o
Well Gplex is the one that said it doesn’t matter. --- Possibly the quote of the week.
seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
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| 17 Jul 2008 03:41 pm |
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| 17 Jul 2008 05:16 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 33  Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,327 OFFLINE | Fine by me. --- Possibly the quote of the week.
seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
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| 17 Jul 2008 11:00 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Stay on topic people, this is about life not death.
and...??? ---

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| 18 Jul 2008 07:03 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,009 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Thats like giving you a photo of a bunny and asking you to tell me what sex you “think” it is. Its doesn’t matter what I think, it can only be left as a bunny till any evidence points either way...
Straw man 1.
Buster Sword wrote:
Actually it does matter what people think, opinions do matter. People have the right to chose and believe which is right whether they are right or wrong imo. It doesn’t make them wrong for believing one over the other.
Gplex wrote:
It doesnt change the facts what people believe wtf.
Straw man 2
Buster Sword wrote:
Doesn’t mean it shouldn’t matter. wtf. People are entitled to their opinion, and saying it doesn’t matter is pretty ignorant, people believe that we are not the only force in the universe, there is no facts to prove that their are “others” like us, but people believe it because of the possibility of it being true, so their opinions do not matter then? Oh wow, you are an atheist right? You are completely entitled to your opinion, which is your decision, and more importantly it matters to you, because you believe there is no God. But by your logic it doesn’t matter because you cannot disprove God exists (BUT YOU ARE STILL AN ATHEIST, SO IT DOES MATTER), no more than I can prove he does exist.
Amen lol.
Notice the argument from ignorance fallacy.
Gplex wrote:
IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS! I dont care what people believe on the unprobable.
Strawman 3.
Buster Sword wrote:
Well if you don’t care, don’t bitch about it, which you obviously are, you are so ignorant it’s not even funny, SO WHAT IF YOU DISAGREE WITH SOMEONES BELIEF? That doesn’t make the opinion invalid.
Notice, that now he trys to change the word “fact” to opinion, clearly a straw man.
Gplex wrote:
So stop claiming that I think people thoughts dont count, because they do, but what people believe will not change facts.
What people believe will not change facts
What people believe will not change facts
What people believe will not change facts
Buster Sword wrote:
Then why did you say it then?
What people believe is up to them whether it be right or wrong, whether you agree/disagree.
What people believe is up to them whether it be right or wrong, whether you agree/disagree.
What people believe is up to them whether it be right or wrong, whether you agree/disagree.
Now he trying to change “facts” to if a agree/disagree.... Where I clearly stated “What people believe will not change facts”
Gplex wrote:
man you only see what you want to see.
At this point I started to think he actually thinks I said his strawman...
Buster Sword wrote:
I think you should read your posts more carefully then.
Besides, that was the worst come back ever. Good day to you sir.
Gplex wrote:
Do you not see your straw man? You have no idea that I am no even adressing your bs straw man Im trying to get you to see it. So how do you make a comeback from a response that isnt even a response to me.
Buster Sword wrote:
Wow, coming from the guy who said opinions don’t matter, if you don’t want to answer why you said that, then be my guest, because you are making a habit of ignoring why you even said it in the first place. How do you make a comeback? Answer why you said opinions doesn’t matter, that is what we were talking about, but you’d rather claim I’m pulling a strawman than answer the question. Hahaha lol bs strawman, great way to avoid something.
I just want to say that I said “What people believe will not change facts”, buster sword strawm man said opinions..
Gplex wrote:
Opinions don’t matter it wont change the facts.
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that objects are attracted to the centrer of the planet?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the planet weights more then a human?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we can not survive in a vacuum with out help?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that we are related to every living thing on the planet? (so far once ai come along this wont be true)
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that most disease are cause by microorganism?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the moon orbits the earth?
Does a opinion matter when it comes to the fact that the earth orbits the sun?
Keep your straw man to yourself.
Keep in mind I lost my cool and type this out as fast as I could and just pushed enter, I mistype the first line.
Buster Sword wrote:
Did you answer my question? My point was specifically to do with this thread, not science.
Keep on using your strawman defence if you so wish.
And here we are, this is gone on long enough buster sword, so cut it out.
To everyone here who is claiming I am going off topic, the fact that I stated still remands a fact.
What people believe will not change facts --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 18 Jul 2008 07:04 pm |
Beyond Infinity Rep: 37  Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!" --- I stand out in a crowd!
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| 18 Jul 2008 07:05 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 56  Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 4,088 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Thank you. I was waiting for somebody to say that. ---
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| 18 Jul 2008 07:10 pm |
Beyond Infinity Rep: 37  Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | LinkHeroOfTime wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Thank you. I was waiting for somebody to say that.
Thats why I’m here --- I stand out in a crowd!
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| 18 Jul 2008 07:18 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,009 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Only those who seek knowledge, you dont seem to be one of them... --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 18 Jul 2008 07:21 pm |
1outofDAinfinite NLI Guest | Gplex wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Only those who seek knowledge, you dont seem to be one of them...
I seek knoledge but you know I actually seek it instead of talking about it on a forum. | |
| 18 Jul 2008 07:23 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 56  Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 4,088 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite NLI wrote:
Gplex wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Only those who seek knowledge, you dont seem to be one of them...
I seek knoledge but you know I actually seek it instead of talking about it on a forum.
LLLLLLMMMMMMMMMMMFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOO ---
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| 18 Jul 2008 07:26 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,009 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite NLI wrote:
Gplex wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Only those who seek knowledge, you dont seem to be one of them...
I seek knoledge but you know I actually seek it instead of talking about it on a forum.
How else am I supose to learn what goes through religious people head, without going in every church and getting told not to come back from each one.. --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 19 Jul 2008 06:38 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 33  Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,327 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
Straw man 1.
Yeah sure. Gplex wrote:
Straw man 2
Oh yeah sure again, it’s your way of avoiding the point, which was NOT a strawman, it was to do with this topic and your post, you are saying that what people think and or believe about Abiogenesis doesn’t matter until evidence suggests os. Gplex wrote:
Notice the argument from ignorance fallacy
That is rich coming from you. Seriously.
Gplex wrote:
Strawman 3.
Yeah that is your way of not owning up to what you said, call strawman if you want, still doesn’t change the fact that people can believe in whatever the hell they want.
Gplex wrote:
Notice, that now he trys to change the word “fact” to opinion, clearly a straw man.
Yeah that’s a lie. You said it doesn’t change the facts, I said it doesn’t change what people may think because it will still matter to them.
Gplex wrote:
Now he trying to change “facts” to if a agree/disagree.... Where I clearly stated “What people believe will not change facts”
You should read your own posts.
Gplex wrote:
Its doesn’t matter what I think,
Gplex wrote:
Now he trying to change “facts” to if a agree/disagree.... Where I clearly stated “What people believe will not change facts”
Read what you said in your first post of this thread.
Gplex wrote:
At this point I started to think he actually thinks I said his strawman...
And a failed assumption that was.
Gplex wrote:
just want to say that I said “What people believe will not change facts”, buster sword strawm man said opinions..
That’s not what your first post said.
Gplex wrote:
Keep in mind I lost my cool and type this out as fast as I could and just pushed enter, I mistype the first line.
Cover your ass if you want, and the fact that it bothers you worries me.
Gplex wrote:
And here we are, this is gone on long enough buster sword, so cut it out.
To everyone here who is claiming I am going off topic, the fact that I stated still remands a fact.
What people believe will not change facts
I don’t mind stopping the debate but the fact that you even admitted you can’t even keep your cool is enough reason to stop with you.
“ Its doesn’t matter what I think,”
“ Opinions don’t matter it wont change the facts. ”
Good day to you sir. --- Possibly the quote of the week.
seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
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| 19 Jul 2008 04:38 pm |
Banned Rep: 51  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,805 ONLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Stay on topic people, this is about life not death.
and...???
So stay on topic Itachi, don’t talk about the afterlife in a topic that isn’t about the afterlife. --- Zeitgeist: Addendum
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| 19 Jul 2008 04:44 pm |
Beyond Infinity Rep: 37  Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,705 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
1outofDAinfinite NLI wrote:
Gplex wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
I claim this in the honor of “Who gives a shit!!!“
Only those who seek knowledge, you dont seem to be one of them...
I seek knoledge but you know I actually seek it instead of talking about it on a forum.
How else am I supose to learn what goes through religious people head, without going in every church and getting told not to come back from each one..
Don’t try they try to stab you with the spears they hold the candles with --- I stand out in a crowd!
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