| 28 Jul 2008 06:44 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 30  Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,004 OFFLINE | Crimson_Blade wrote:
Str wrote:
A world without religion would be bad. Eventually everyone would become Nihilists, and with no morals, corruption and crime amongst the youth would soar, as there would be no reason not to steal, or try to benefit themselves, or even kill, apart from fear. Eventually, governments would have to either opress the people with overwhelming force, or to indoctrinate the people about their place in society (ultra-communism, if you like) There would also be no reason not to build those cobalt wrapped doomsday bombs, for any country.
However, a world without secular thought would be equally as bad, as science would advance far less, and churches would become fat and corrupt without any free-thinkers to question them.
I seems we’ve got it right already.
The loss of religion would not send youths down a path of violence.
American Prison Statistics
Christians make up 80% of the American Population
They make up 70% of the prison population.
Atheists make up 12% of the American population
They make up .02% of the prison population.
Lol.
But wouldn’t that be because there are way more Christians to start off with? Just a thought. --- Possibly the quote of the week.
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| 28 Jul 2008 07:37 am |
The Dark Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,744 ONLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
Crimson_Blade wrote:
Str wrote:
A world without religion would be bad. Eventually everyone would become Nihilists, and with no morals, corruption and crime amongst the youth would soar, as there would be no reason not to steal, or try to benefit themselves, or even kill, apart from fear. Eventually, governments would have to either opress the people with overwhelming force, or to indoctrinate the people about their place in society (ultra-communism, if you like) There would also be no reason not to build those cobalt wrapped doomsday bombs, for any country.
However, a world without secular thought would be equally as bad, as science would advance far less, and churches would become fat and corrupt without any free-thinkers to question them.
I seems we’ve got it right already.
The loss of religion would not send youths down a path of violence.
American Prison Statistics
Christians make up 80% of the American Population
They make up 70% of the prison population.
Atheists make up 12% of the American population
They make up .02% of the prison population.
Lol.
But wouldn’t that be because there are way more Christians to start off with? Just a thought.
His point was religionless world would not equal a violent world ---
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| 28 Jul 2008 08:56 am |
Str Guest | No offense. but thats probably more because of the social position atheists tend to occupy. They normally fit in less and so do not become a part of gang culture. In america, ive been told, Atheists on average are more intelligent than Christians (Not sure about this, but people on here have said it), which is the opposite of UK/Europe, funnily enough, and so they tend to not do drugs or join criminal groups.
However, just look at the turmoil caused by teens in parts of Britain who are told that there is nothing wrong with anything.
Also, government corruption would become insane. There would be no reason not to do something if you can get away with it, no reason not to make yourself a little better off at the expense of others, and so politicians and administrators everywhere would be helping themselves.
I am not saying it is the downfall of religion that causes this, but the removal of religion would eventually remove any morals people have whatsoever, as Nihilism is the only true form of Atheism, and so it would probably take over. As Peterofsky said,Nihilists tend to have high IQs, but what happens when you tell some rednecks or some teens that they can do anything they want, and that they should do what they want, as this life is all they have, so they should experience as muchas possible.
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| 28 Jul 2008 10:21 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 28  Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1,357 OFFLINE | I would say society needs to be weened off religion in order to avoid anarchy. The only ones that would actually run wild are those who morals were held in place solely by the idea of biblical hellfire. If we were to suddenly “disprove” all religious ideas, then of course we would have anarchy created by these people and those who would take advantage of the disorder. This is of course only assuming that there are enough people who’s morals are only there because of fear of eternal suffering.
If religion is slowly removed, then those who do not hold true personal morals will be able to hold onto their beliefs until they die, and as the generations go by, it will be harder and harder to pass along their theistic beliefs until it is gone.
In theory, #2 is the best solution. In time, the world will eventually fully awaken. ---
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| 28 Jul 2008 10:40 pm |
TDK Guest | A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks. | |
| 28 Jul 2008 11:05 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...
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| 28 Jul 2008 11:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22  Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1,273 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...

Peace i m not sure...cuz we are human beings...so as long as Greed n Anger stay..there will be war..At least we wont have any long wars like Crusade wars...!!  ---
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| 28 Jul 2008 11:49 pm |
Banned Rep: 50  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,740 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...

For the last fucking time Itachi... I NEVER said that. How many more times do I have to say this before it goes through your thick skull? --- Zeitgeist: Addendum
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| 28 Jul 2008 11:53 pm |
TDK Guest | dukedas wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...

Peace i m not sure...cuz we are human beings...so as long as Greed n Anger stay..there will be war..At least we wont have any long wars like Crusade wars...!! 
they were only long b/c technologie was crappy making it a long journy to even get there and send info reguarding what was going on at any time. and Your forgeting about the 100 years war between GB and France. | |
| 28 Jul 2008 11:55 pm |
Infinitus Rep: 35  Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | AntifaForever wrote:
I was justing wondering what everyone thought when it comes to a world without religion. Would it create peace or chaos?
Well their well be a lot more jews in germany right now. --- I stand out in a crowd!
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| 29 Jul 2008 01:06 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 22  Joined: 26 May 2008 Posts: 1,273 OFFLINE | TDK wrote:
dukedas wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...

Peace i m not sure... cuz we are human beings...so as long as Greed n Anger stay..there will be war..At least we wont have any long wars like Crusade wars...!! 
they were only long b/c technologie was crappy making it a long journy to even get there and send info reguarding what was going on at any time. and Your forgeting about the 100 years war between GB and France.
Nope...i didn`t say we will free from war...I told u in my comment ehh...read the bolds...!! War..we will still have...but at least we won`t have any war like Crusade wars...cuz Crusade wars are wars in which nobody know when to end or how to win...!! N those wars are more serious than other wars ...cuz both side got no mercy for opponent...by driving mad coz of believes...ehh..!! ---
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| 29 Jul 2008 03:51 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,480 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...

For the last fucking time Itachi... I NEVER said that. How many more times do I have to say this before it goes through your thick skull?
Religious kill men
therefore Religion = violence
Atheist kill men
therefore atheism <> violence
get it yet... fucking dumb ass... ---

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| 29 Jul 2008 04:46 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 55  Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,978 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
TDK wrote:
A world without religion.
A new forms of gov would appeare. Both good and bad just as there would have been if there was still religion. People would still fight over stupid shit like oil, race, land or just being dicks.
No... According to matt... atheism will bring peace for this world... atheism equall morality while religious equall immorality...
atheism shall be spread across the globe.. it has been proof bring peace...
read the atheist story...

For the last fucking time Itachi... I NEVER said that. How many more times do I have to say this before it goes through your thick skull?
Religious kill men
therefore Religion = violence
Atheist kill men
therefore atheism <> violence
get it yet... fucking dumb ass...
You really are a douche bag, show me 1 person who killed in the name of atheism. --- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena. | |
| 29 Jul 2008 08:43 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 30  Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,004 OFFLINE | Gplex wrote:
You really are a douche bag, show me 1 person who killed in the name of atheism.
Me, it was my hampster.
Chibi wrote:
His point was religionless world would not equal a violent world
That’s really hard to say, because remove the religion we are still human and still have plenty of drives and motives to do bad things, religion is/can be just one of those many reasons. --- Possibly the quote of the week.
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| 31 Jul 2008 11:06 pm |
Cheese Guest | On a larger scale things would quiet down, but with no real consequences small time murder would jump a f@&! load. But most all violence in the world would stop if every thought for a half second because most religons are religons of peace. | |
| 31 Jul 2008 11:21 pm |
Regular Rep: 15  Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 901 OFFLINE | there wouldnt and couldnt b
and it would be 2 perfect thats a world without religion ---

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| 01 Aug 2008 12:12 am |
Scriptor of Alacritas Rep: 61  Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 16,343 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite wrote:
AntifaForever wrote:
I was justing wondering what everyone thought when it comes to a world without religion. Would it create peace or chaos?
Well their well be a lot more jews in germany right now.
If there was no religion there would be no such thing as Jews  ---
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| 01 Aug 2008 12:48 am |
Regular Rep: 15  Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 901 OFFLINE | no jews?!!!
noooooooooo lol ---

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| 01 Aug 2008 12:50 am |
Infinitus Rep: 35  Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 6,038 OFFLINE | Crimson_Blade wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
AntifaForever wrote:
I was justing wondering what everyone thought when it comes to a world without religion. Would it create peace or chaos?
Well their well be a lot more jews in germany right now.
If there was no religion there would be no such thing as Jews 
Who would be our lawyers!!! --- I stand out in a crowd!
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| 01 Aug 2008 01:15 am |
Scriptor of Alacritas Rep: 61  Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 16,343 OFFLINE | 1outofDAinfinite wrote:
Crimson_Blade wrote:
1outofDAinfinite wrote:
AntifaForever wrote:
I was justing wondering what everyone thought when it comes to a world without religion. Would it create peace or chaos?
Well their well be a lot more jews in germany right now.
If there was no religion there would be no such thing as Jews 
Who would be our lawyers!!!
More like who would lend us money? D= ---
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