| 11 Aug 2008 02:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Mystic Kal-El wrote:
Isn’t Yusuke a mountain buster? And Ichigo only a building busters?
C class demons were mountain destroyers or at the most city destroyers ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 02:33 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 24  Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Posts: 2,075 OFFLINE | go read blech please before trying to down ichigo | |
| 11 Aug 2008 02:49 pm |
or just Red Rep: 72  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16,991 OFFLINE | heavenly king wrote:
go read blech please before trying to down ichigo
Go read Yu Yu Hakusho before debating against Yusuke, please. ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 02:49 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | heavenly king wrote:
go read blech please before trying to down ichigo
how much environmental destruction have bleach characters caused
C class demons alone were at the most city destroyers ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 03:52 pm |
Regular Rep: 14 Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
heavenly king wrote:
go read blech please before trying to down ichigo
how much environmental destruction have bleach characters caused
C class demons alone were at the most city destroyers
What does environmental destruction have to do with anything? Just because you’ve got a bigger gun, doesn’t mean your chances of winning are greater. For what it’s worth, all of Yusuke’s power over Ichigo is like bringing a nuke in a knife fight. Completely worthless.
As for speed. The first scan. Does it actually SHOW Kuwabara and Yusuke outrunning a bullet? or just dodging it? You’ll notice that they mention that they travel in a straight line. Predicting and quickly evading a bullets path is not the same as actually outrunning a bullet.
Byakuya at 1/5th of his output, could move several meters, cut Ichigo’s sword, then come back in the same spot without even looking like he moved. That’s EASILY above bullet speed. | |
| 11 Aug 2008 04:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
heavenly king wrote:
go read blech please before trying to down ichigo
how much environmental destruction have bleach characters caused
C class demons alone were at the most city destroyers
What does environmental destruction have to do with anything? Just because you’ve got a bigger gun, doesn’t mean your chances of winning are greater. For what it’s worth, all of Yusuke’s power over Ichigo is like bringing a nuke in a knife fight. Completely worthless.
As for speed. The first scan. Does it actually SHOW Kuwabara and Yusuke outrunning a bullet? or just dodging it? You’ll notice that they mention that they travel in a straight line. Predicting and quickly evading a bullets path is not the same as actually outrunning a bullet.
Byakuya at 1/5th of his output, could move several meters, cut Ichigo’s sword, then come back in the same spot without even looking like he moved. That’s EASILY above bullet speed.
first off
if yu yu hakusho characters can create more environmental damage is becuase they have more energy than bleach characters
kuwabara calling bullets slow means they can easily travel faster than a bullet
so what if byakuya is faster than sound kuwabara and yusuke were way past that even before the dark tournament where they became alot faster than before ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 07:15 pm |
Regular Rep: 14 Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Environmental damage means jack crap, though. All of that power won’t mean crap if he can’t CONNECT a rei gun shot. And Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is not going to get hit. That’s just all there is to it.
Byakuya is faster than the DT characters were at 1/5th of his actual potential.
And sorry, but the DT characters were not faster than sound. That’s a bullshit theory. You’ve made a lot of retarded statements regarding YYH, and this is just another one of them. | |
| 11 Aug 2008 07:16 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
Environmental damage means jack crap, though. All of that power won’t mean crap if he can’t CONNECT a rei gun shot. And Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is not going to get hit. That’s just all there is to it.
Byakuya is faster than the DT characters were at 1/5th of his actual potential.
And sorry, but the DT characters were not faster than sound. That’s a bullshit theory. You’ve made a lot of retarded statements regarding YYH, and this is just another one of them.
yusuke and kuwabara dodging bullets is bullshit?
toguro in the final battle was possibly dozens of times the speed of sound
also environmental damage means alot
when have you seen bleach characters cause massive damage to the environment (at a city level atleast) ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 07:20 pm |
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| 11 Aug 2008 08:21 pm |
Regular Rep: 14 Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Didn’t we have this conversation somewhere earlier?
DT characters were not sound speed+. That’s just it. You’re making that crap up.
And environmental damage... what’s the point? Is he going to hit Yusuke with a rei gun? NO.
Ichigo can block a massive Sokyoku, which is easily at mountain blasting shot with one hand. without Bankai. | |
| 11 Aug 2008 08:27 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
Didn’t we have this conversation somewhere earlier?
DT characters were not sound speed+. That’s just it. You’re making that crap up.
And environmental damage... what’s the point? Is he going to hit Yusuke with a rei gun? NO.
Ichigo can block a massive Sokyoku, which is easily at mountain blasting shot with one hand. without Bankai.
yusuke does not even need to hit ichigo with the reigun he can shoot something close to him such as the earth and BOOM! there goes several dozen miles along with ichigo ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 08:29 pm |
Regular Rep: 14 Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | *yawns* Ichigo cuts his hand off before he can do it.
Game over. | |
| 11 Aug 2008 08:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
*yawns* Ichigo cuts his hand off before he can do it.
Game over.
yusuke powers up and releases his energy in the same way toguro did incinerating every victim in its way
game over ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 08:38 pm |
Regular Rep: 14 Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
Ky wrote:
*yawns* Ichigo cuts his hand off before he can do it.
Game over.
yusuke powers up and releases his energy in the same way toguro did incinerating every victim in its way
game over
Powering up takes forever. Ichigo doesn’t even need an eye blink for him to cut off Yusukes head. | |
| 11 Aug 2008 08:40 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
Ky wrote:
*yawns* Ichigo cuts his hand off before he can do it.
Game over.
yusuke powers up and releases his energy in the same way toguro did incinerating every victim in its way
game over
Powering up takes forever. Ichigo doesn’t even need an eye blink for him to cut off Yusukes head.
and yet yusuke would dodge that attack
yusuke easily dodged attacks from hiei who slashed somebody 16 times in a blink of an eye and hiei moved in and slashed him so quickly you could not even see the guy trow a single punch while he could trow several hundred per half seconds ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 08:49 pm |
Regular Rep: 14 Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Let’s see... Ichigo casually moves so fast that his after-images make it look like an army of Ichigos. His Shyunpo is at least on the level of Yoruichi, who, while carrying a body, could move so fast that she can use substitution techs without noticing. His GT could cleave a giant trench in a mountain with a single slash. He could also move so fast that he practically flew around his opponents. | |
| 11 Aug 2008 08:52 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Ky wrote:
Let’s see... Ichigo casually moves so fast that his after-images make it look like an army of Ichigos. His Shyunpo is at least on the level of Yoruichi, who, while carrying a body, could move so fast that she can use substitution techs without noticing. His GT could cleave a giant trench in a mountain with a single slash. He could also move so fast that he practically flew around his opponents.
D class hiei left several after images against yusuke (not as much as ichigos though but this was when he was extremely weak)
C class demons move so fast that they can attack others without noticing they were even hit
C class yusuke shot a reigun that made a giant hole in a mountain without it exploding and continued moving towards outer space ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 08:56 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25  Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 4,094 OFFLINE | Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
Ky wrote:
*yawns* Ichigo cuts his hand off before he can do it.
Game over.
yusuke powers up and releases his energy in the same way toguro did incinerating every victim in its way
game over
Incineration like that is good in theory, theory alone though. Old Man Yamamoto has the strongest fire type Zanpaktou in Bleach (this is saying a lot since the Soukyoku is a fire type Zanpaktou with the power of a million Zanpaktou) Anywho it has been stated by Tite Kubo through the Bleach Manga that only being that posses immense Spiritual Pressure has the ability to even stand up to Ryūjin Jakka. (Yamamoto’s Zanpatou) Ichigo is easily captain level so Yusuke simply powering up wouldn’t incinerate Ichigo.
lastly Ichigo’s Zanpaktou, Zangetsu, has the ability to keep Ichigo alive though seemingly fatal attacks. And their is still Ichigo’s inner Hollow that threatens to take over if Ichigo shows any weakness what so ever. ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 09:01 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 4,235 OFFLINE | Chaos Theory wrote:
Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
Ky wrote:
*yawns* Ichigo cuts his hand off before he can do it.
Game over.
yusuke powers up and releases his energy in the same way toguro did incinerating every victim in its way
game over
Incineration like that is good in theory, theory alone though. Old Man Yamamoto has the strongest fire type Zanpaktou in Bleach (this is saying a lot since the Soukyoku is a fire type Zanpaktou with the power of a million Zanpaktou) Anywho it has been stated by Tite Kubo through the Bleach Manga that only being that posses immense Spiritual Pressure has the ability to even stand up to Ryūjin Jakka. (Yamamoto’s Zanpatou) Ichigo is easily captain level so Yusuke simply powering up wouldn’t incinerate Ichigo.
lastly Ichigo’s Zanpaktou, Zangetsu, has the ability to keep Ichigo alive though seemingly fatal attacks. And their is still Ichigo’s inner Hollow that threatens to take over if Ichigo shows any weakness what so ever.
maybe depending on which level we would classify vizard ichigo to be at
i will let you guys decide on this
the classes are E- - S+
E- class being the weakest and being on par with regular humans
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S+ class demons who could destroy earth hundreds of times more than sensui the weakest S- class demon who could destroy earth countless of times over
anyways if ichigo is anywhere from B - E- class (he is obviously not going to be E- class lol)
then he would get incinerated by toguros aura ---
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| 11 Aug 2008 09:02 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25  Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 4,094 OFFLINE | Christian Gold Saint of Aries wrote:
D class hiei left several after images against yusuke (not as much as ichigos though but this was when he was extremely weak)
C class demons move so fast that they can attack others without noticing they were even hit
C class yusuke shot a reigun that made a giant hole in a mountain without it exploding and continued moving towards outer space
Yusuke can have all the power in the world, but its useless if you can’t hit your target, imagine trying to hit a gnat with a 9mm, not gonna happen.
and to hiei who slashed somebody 16 times in a blink of an eye without people noticing pale into comparison to Ichigo cutting Senbonzakura Kageyoshi out of the air in mere seconds which is millions of blades. ---
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