Mystic Gohan vs Majuub

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So super buu isn’t stronger than kid buu??? Wow that is news to me. Gohan also knocked cell down, difference was that on earth there are no weird lakes where if you get knocked into them you can’t get out. Once again Cell at Max power, which he was not fighting pikkon would have destroyed Pikkon.

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Cell was at max plus getting knocked into earth>>>>>>getting knocked into a lake plus Cell could have just fly out of the lake if he wasn’t knocked out.

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cell wasn’t knocked out, watch the video, he was fully conscious when Pikkon tossed them into those spikes. Cell was not at full power, he never powered up. He was going for Goku and Pikkon attacked him and surprised him. Cell Fully Powered would have taken down pikkon.

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well goku was weaker than regular perfect cell and he wouldn’t even be able to “suprise super perfect cell” and I could have sworn cell was going on some kind of rampage or something so he would have been ready for a fight. And just because you get weaker dosen’t mean you can’t train and get stonger it just means you wouldn’t be as strong as you would have been if you hadn’t gotten weaker. How old was pan at the end of z. I just want to know.

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Three I think.

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three wtf wow.

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was it exactly three years between the end of buu and the end of z.

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10 years between buu and the end of z

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what so at the beginning of gt trunks and goten should be almost thirty.

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Goten 27 and Trunks 28 approx.

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but they look like teenagers. Gohan should be like 40 or something and goku should be like 60 and vegeta should be like 70 I mean really do sayians never get older or something.

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Gohan’s 38.
Plus saiyan’s really don’t age this is stated by vegeta at the end of dbz I think they probably killed each other off with their violent life styles. That probably kept their populations in check.

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when cell fully powers he has a super saiyan like ki auora around him. Cell was ready to fight, he was ready to fight goku. It is like you come up to punch me, and some other dude hits you and knocks down. It is the exact same. The truth of the matter is that, the writers let Pikkon knock down cell to make things more interesting. It was bad writing, but I still believe that cell was caught off guard. It is possible that Goku using his most powerful attack could have knocked down super perfect cell had he caught him off guard. I know that the other Z fighters could not, but Goku was quite a bit stronger than everyone else with the exception of Gohan. I don’t think it would have done that much damage, but knock him down, yeah maybe. Look like i said this whole Cell pikon was all filler anyway, and I do realize that you might say that all GT is filler since it is not technically cannon, but since it is a DBZ vs GT post GT is Cannon, but DBZ filler is still filler.It was bad writing intending on making pikkon look stronger to make the pikkon goku fight more exciting. All I know is that Cell was pretty confident that he was stronger than he had ever been when he fought goku in GT. I trust cell, he was a smart guy, he knew how strong he was.

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what, read what you wrote and then ask yourself did you just answer your own question about uub.

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What are you talking about? I did not mention uub in my last post, even though this topic is about him, a lot of people are talking about the overall depowerization of GT which I do not believe at all exists. My point is that people in GT in general are stronger and not weaker.

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omniblast is right once more

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In general, all of them are not. Gohan for example. He doesn’t even go Mystic anymore, and resorts to his Super Saiyan transformation.

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Yeah I would argue that Uub and Goku were stronger but not anyone else not even vegeta. Except maybe Tien but he never really counts anymore.

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In my opinion Vegeta was stronger, I put him above general Rildo which puts him at over 2 times stronger than kid buu. In my opinion Goku, Vegeta,Uub, Goten and Trunks all got stronger, I don’t think Goku and Trunks got a lot stronger, but they were improved from their child forms. Gohan is the only major character who got weaker. That is in my opinion that is.

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I think everyone got weaker with the exception of goku, pan, and uub. And omniblast in your post about cell you said something like the writers used stunts to make picon seem stronger than he actually is, couldn’t that apply to the gt writers( but instead of using stunts all their increased power is only based on words and speculation).