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29 Aug 2008 06:17 am
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I would expect this in America but Britian? Jeez.
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29 Aug 2008 09:52 pm
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Oh come on it is quite interesting.
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29 Aug 2008 09:52 pm
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Eh,who cares 'bout those types of foreign policies
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29 Aug 2008 09:54 pm
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Chaos Theory wrote: Eh,who cares 'bout those types of foreign policies

Beauce obviously if it isnt American it doesnt matter T_T
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29 Aug 2008 09:56 pm
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Crimson_Blade wrote:
Chaos Theory wrote: Eh,who cares 'bout those types of foreign policies

Beauce obviously if it isnt American it doesnt matter T_T


Actually I don’t care about any kinds of policies I leave that type of stuff to people who enjoy politics
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29 Aug 2008 09:57 pm
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Crimson_Blade wrote:
Chaos Theory wrote: Eh,who cares 'bout those types of foreign policies

Beauce obviously if it isnt American it doesnt matter T_T

No, this just isn’t intresting.
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29 Aug 2008 09:59 pm
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Did I mention it is completely illegal for the council to be doign that because it says that “Non mainstream religious sites may corrupt the morals of workers”.

But meh. Someone might find it interesting.
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29 Aug 2008 10:00 pm
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Crimson_Blade wrote: Did I mention it is completely illegal for the council to be doign that because it says that “Non mainstream religious sites may corrupt the morals of workers”.

But meh. Someone might find it interesting.


Government do a lot of things that there not suppose to
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29 Aug 2008 10:01 pm
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It’s a hand full of websites that no one gives a shit about..
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29 Aug 2008 10:01 pm
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Chaos Theory wrote:
Crimson_Blade wrote: Did I mention it is completely illegal for the council to be doign that because it says that “Non mainstream religious sites may corrupt the morals of workers”.

But meh. Someone might find it interesting.


Government do a lot of things that there not suppose to

Like invade a nation for oil and blame it on terrorists?

But I should have put this in Politics yes.

Move please?
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29 Aug 2008 10:02 pm
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Rorschach wrote: It’s a hand full of websites that no one gives a shit about..

On the contrary actually >.>
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29 Aug 2008 11:16 pm
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Crimson_Blade wrote:
Chaos Theory wrote:
Crimson_Blade wrote: Did I mention it is completely illegal for the council to be doign that because it says that “Non mainstream religious sites may corrupt the morals of workers”.

But meh. Someone might find it interesting.


Government do a lot of things that there not suppose to

Like invade a nation for oil and blame it on terrorists?

But I should have put this in Politics yes.

Move please?

ha ha....i like this post...!!!Blame things....!!! tounge
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29 Aug 2008 11:23 pm
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Crimson_Blade wrote:
Chaos Theory wrote: Eh,who cares 'bout those types of foreign policies

Beauce obviously if it isnt American it doesnt matter T_T

USA USA FUCK YA
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29 Aug 2008 11:27 pm
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As I’ve been saying for awhile western European nations are becoming more and more social in government... except the Netherlands haha. This is just another example. And it probably won’t stop at Athiesm.. considering most of Europe is becoming more and more everyday “faithless” in any religions organization I’m sure we might see bans on any religions all together. They are just doing ones they can deal with right now.

The world has been unfolding ever since the rough endings of WW2 and eventually teh Cold War. Just like when you upset the balance of nature, you upset the balance of different worldly peoples and you get to the extremes. Eventually more and more governments will opt for more fascist style government under the false pretenses of protection from “terrorists”, “communists” or whatever the hot selling point of the time is. Hitler seized numerous rights away from the German people under the pretenses of protecting them from communists terrorists.

Lots of European governments have been drifting this way especially with the attacks in Britain recently. Its a way of manipulation and corruption of the people but who also so blindly and stupidly let it happen when they had the power to stop it. Russia is already drifting back that way, UK is going that way, and Germany is already there again. All it needs is a kick in the butt in Germany. Doesn’t bode well for the rest of the continent. As for America... we have the chance of electing a socialist president... Obama... who also has a lot of religious radical tendencies behind him tied in with lowering defenses. While we have McCain who’s ready to start war wherever he gets a chance.

I mean people see something like this a ban on a simple right and think nothing of it... but it starts with that. Started with that in the British colonies in America, started with that in China in the late 1600s, started with that with the German people. All it takes is a burning of the German government building, an attack on the twin towers in New York, a bombing of a train station, or a silly Georgian attack on Ossesia to upset the already unstable balance.
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29 Aug 2008 11:32 pm
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if it can’t be used to bash the u.s. no one wants to talk about it. besides that, those religions are only around so people can pretend to be different.

it’s funny how those are all “strange religions” but scientologist waiting for a spaceship to pick them up is mainstream cause people with money follow it. i also like how cabala has been popularized by madonna. it’s old school judeism with modern bling. people make me laugh till my head hurts.
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29 Aug 2008 11:44 pm
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Reason wrote: if it can’t be used to bash the u.s. no one wants to talk about it. besides that, those religions are only around so people can pretend to be different.


That may be true of some people, but then that could be said of some people in any religious movement. Generally speaking pagan or reconstructionist traditions exist because people have not found that Abrahamic religions satisfy their worldview.

Also there are many people within those communities who are very careful about who they discuss their beliefs with and are not open about their religious traditions with outsiders because of the fear of negative reactions. So I hardly see why they would choose to follow it for attention or a need to “pretend to be different” in such cases wink.

Besides, you do realize that most of those movements are based more or less (more obviously in the case of reconstructionist movements) on religions that predate most others?

As to the news article...I have often heard a rumour that Britain is less tolerant than most Western nations of these religious movements. I haven’t heard anything more than rumour...but I would be interested in hearing if any of our British members have heard about this.
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30 Aug 2008 12:13 am
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that was beautifully stated etain, but the religions are old and they were dying untill modern pop-culture brought them back in the mainstream. reconstructonism is some thing i have no knowedge on so i won’t pretend to.
the more accepted religions are not at all decided apon to be different, if anything they attrack people who just want to fit in.
the normal pagan i meet (and i’ve met many) lets me know of his “enlightened” religion normally within hours and will more than like have a tattoo or bumper sticker of the five pointed star with the seasons depiction. i have never met a pegan who tried to hide it.
ofcourse i know the these religions predate most others. and please don’t assume i just make ignorant statements just because your oppinion is different from mine. i may not know how to spell ofcourse but this i do know.
i always speak in general ways and i’m sure there are peaple out there who may truely believe in these religions. but i’m not gunna be politicaly correct ignore the obvious fact that after the craft, interview with a vampire and the rest of the enjoyable movies and music came out that witches came out of the woodwork. i’m just stating what i’ve experianced.
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30 Aug 2008 12:42 am
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Reason wrote: that was beautifully stated etain, but the religions are old and they were dying untill modern pop-culture brought them back in the mainstream. reconstructonism is some thing i have no knowedge on so i won’t pretend to.
the more accepted religions are not at all decided apon to be different, if anything they attrack people who just want to fit in.
the normal pagan i meet (and i’ve met many) lets me know of his “enlightened” religion normally within hours and will more than like have a tattoo or bumper sticker of the five pointed star with the seasons depiction. i have never met a pegan who tried to hide it.
ofcourse i know the these religions predate most others. and please don’t assume i just make ignorant statements just because your oppinion is different from mine. i may not know how to spell ofcourse but this i do know.
i always speak in general ways and i’m sure there are peaple out there who may truely believe in these religions. but i’m not gunna be politicaly correct ignore the obvious fact that after the craft, interview with a vampire and the rest of the enjoyable movies and music came out that witches came out of the woodwork. i’m just stating what i’ve experianced.


Well ok I understand that you’re speaking from experience (as am I). And from what you’ve told me about your experience leads me to believe you’ve run into a particular “type” of pagan. In the community, they’re referred to as “fluffy bunnies”. And yes the Craft and Charmed, etc. have had the effect of having more people who are in only for show. Wicca seems to have attracted those types for some reason (which actually irritates some Wiccans).

What I was commenting about is those who take their tradition, and the study of it, seriously. Reconstructionism refers to religious traditions that seek to understand to the extent possible precisely how ancient religions were practiced, and to adapt or “reconstruct” them to modern society. Examples would be Celtic Reconstructionism and Asatru.
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Etain wrote:
Reason wrote: that was beautifully stated etain, but the religions are old and they were dying untill modern pop-culture brought them back in the mainstream. reconstructonism is some thing i have no knowedge on so i won’t pretend to.
the more accepted religions are not at all decided apon to be different, if anything they attrack people who just want to fit in.
the normal pagan i meet (and i’ve met many) lets me know of his “enlightened” religion normally within hours and will more than like have a tattoo or bumper sticker of the five pointed star with the seasons depiction. i have never met a pegan who tried to hide it.
ofcourse i know the these religions predate most others. and please don’t assume i just make ignorant statements just because your oppinion is different from mine. i may not know how to spell ofcourse but this i do know.
i always speak in general ways and i’m sure there are peaple out there who may truely believe in these religions. but i’m not gunna be politicaly correct ignore the obvious fact that after the craft, interview with a vampire and the rest of the enjoyable movies and music came out that witches came out of the woodwork. i’m just stating what i’ve experianced.


Well ok I understand that you’re speaking from experience (as am I). And from what you’ve told me about your experience leads me to believe you’ve run into a particular “type” of pagan. In the community, they’re referred to as “fluffy bunnies”. And yes the Craft and Charmed, etc. have had the effect of having more people who are in only for show. Wicca seems to have attracted those types for some reason (which actually irritates some Wiccans).

What I was commenting about is those who take their tradition, and the study of it, seriously. Reconstructionism refers to religious traditions that seek to understand to the extent possible precisely how ancient religions were practiced, and to adapt or “reconstruct” them to modern society. Examples would be Celtic Reconstructionism and Asatru.


well that i understand very well. if i’ve met one they are probably as inclined to tell me about thier religion as i am to tell them mine.
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