| 03 Sep 2008 07:52 pm |
Sukitslo Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Energy of the planet>Explosion of the planet in power. So it takes more durability to survive the actual energy of the planet than the explosion of the planet. 
So you’ve studied this to know that? You’ve also studied the energy of a planet explosion combined with the blast that was stronger enough to obliterate the planet? and prove he “absorbed” the entire planet’s energy. I’ve seen AC more than once and don’t remember that. | |
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| 03 Sep 2008 07:53 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 21  Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,015 OFFLINE | The biggest argument against Super Nova being an illusion is in the fact that all the planets are still there. The Earth isn’t destroyed, ect, ect.
The problem is, Super Nova is a summon. And like all other summons, damage to the terrain is reset. Look at Bahumut, it blows the shit out of everything. But no damaged land. Is it an illusion? Hell no.
Super Nova, for all purpose of debates, is a real attack. ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 07:53 pm |
The Dark Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,766 ONLINE | Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
OH BTFW, Frieza was killed by a sword too 
Freeza was half robot at that point. He had already survived a planet exploding after he was cut in half and on the brink of death and floating in space after all that for awhile. On top of that the sword if it was indeed Tapion’s was magic.
Tapion is not even canon so it wasn’t and so what if it was magic. Omnislash is instant and oviously above the planet’s energy in power as Sephiroth survived the planet’s energy which is above planet busting and Z characters surviving is retconned by the fact Vegeta and Goku were scared of the planet exploding and they were both more than 10x stronger than Frieza. ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 07:55 pm |
The Dark Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,766 ONLINE | Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Energy of the planet>Explosion of the planet in power. So it takes more durability to survive the actual energy of the planet than the explosion of the planet. 
So you’ve studied this to know that? You’ve also studied the energy of a planet explosion combined with the blast that was stronger enough to obliterate the planet? and prove he “absorbed” the entire planet’s energy. I’ve seen AC more than once and don’t remember that.
It was in FF7 a weaker version also, thats theoretical with the planet’s energy thing as Sephiroth was right there in pure energy.
Okay, Nukes only release 3% of their energy inside them for the explosion thus 100% of the energy was stronger than the explosion by 97%.
Sephiroth was taking the energy at it’s strongest in his weaker form. ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 07:56 pm |
Sukitslo Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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Sephiroth has survived something MORE than a planet exploding...Sigh...Yes he would die from a galaxy buster but it would have to hit him and we don’t know how long it takes to charge...There is nothing to suggest he can do it instantly like Seph can summon n. lifestream. INTANGIBILITY.
No he hasn’t, he couldnt even survive omnislash. He lost to 1 human. He cannot beat Brolly its nonsense to even entertain otherwise. | |
| 03 Sep 2008 07:59 pm |
The Dark Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,766 ONLINE | Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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Sephiroth has survived something MORE than a planet exploding...Sigh...Yes he would die from a galaxy buster but it would have to hit him and we don’t know how long it takes to charge...There is nothing to suggest he can do it instantly like Seph can summon n. lifestream. INTANGIBILITY.
No he hasn’t, he couldnt even survive omnislash. He lost to 1 human. He cannot beat Brolly its nonsense to even entertain otherwise.
Just because he couldn’t survive omnislash means nothing. In fact that just proves how strong it really is. The fact is he took the energy of the planet and it didn’t kill him. If omnislash did then you know what that means. ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 08:00 pm |
Regular Rep: 10  Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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Sephiroth has survived something MORE than a planet exploding...Sigh...Yes he would die from a galaxy buster but it would have to hit him and we don’t know how long it takes to charge...There is nothing to suggest he can do it instantly like Seph can summon n. lifestream. INTANGIBILITY.
No he hasn’t, he couldnt even survive omnislash. He lost to 1 human. He cannot beat Brolly its nonsense to even entertain otherwise.
Just because he couldn’t survive omnislash means nothing. In fact that just proves how strong it really is. The fact is he took the energy of the planet and it didn’t kill him. If omnislash did then you know what that means.
so what you are seing is that omnislash>energy absorbing>>>planet busting
right? ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 08:02 pm |
The Dark Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,766 ONLINE | Towel Boy wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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Sephiroth has survived something MORE than a planet exploding...Sigh...Yes he would die from a galaxy buster but it would have to hit him and we don’t know how long it takes to charge...There is nothing to suggest he can do it instantly like Seph can summon n. lifestream. INTANGIBILITY.
No he hasn’t, he couldnt even survive omnislash. He lost to 1 human. He cannot beat Brolly its nonsense to even entertain otherwise.
Just because he couldn’t survive omnislash means nothing. In fact that just proves how strong it really is. The fact is he took the energy of the planet and it didn’t kill him. If omnislash did then you know what that means.
so what you are seing is that omnislash>energy absorbing>>>planet exploding
right?
That is what I am saying, by our real world logic. Yes. ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 08:03 pm |
Regular Rep: 10  Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 583 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Towel Boy wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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Sephiroth has survived something MORE than a planet exploding...Sigh...Yes he would die from a galaxy buster but it would have to hit him and we don’t know how long it takes to charge...There is nothing to suggest he can do it instantly like Seph can summon n. lifestream. INTANGIBILITY.
No he hasn’t, he couldnt even survive omnislash. He lost to 1 human. He cannot beat Brolly its nonsense to even entertain otherwise.
Just because he couldn’t survive omnislash means nothing. In fact that just proves how strong it really is. The fact is he took the energy of the planet and it didn’t kill him. If omnislash did then you know what that means.
so what you are seing is that omnislash>energy absorbing>>>planet exploding
right?
That is what I am saying, by our real world logic. Yes.
thats just wrong dude ---
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| 03 Sep 2008 08:05 pm |
The Dark Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,766 ONLINE | Towel Boy wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Towel Boy wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sukitslo wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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Sephiroth has survived something MORE than a planet exploding...Sigh...Yes he would die from a galaxy buster but it would have to hit him and we don’t know how long it takes to charge...There is nothing to suggest he can do it instantly like Seph can summon n. lifestream. INTANGIBILITY.
No he hasn’t, he couldnt even survive omnislash. He lost to 1 human. He cannot beat Brolly its nonsense to even entertain otherwise.
Just because he couldn’t survive omnislash means nothing. In fact that just proves how strong it really is. The fact is he took the energy of the planet and it didn’t kill him. If omnislash did then you know what that means.
so what you are seing is that omnislash>energy absorbing>>>planet exploding
right?
That is what I am saying, by our real world logic. Yes.
thats just wrong dude
I have already provided the proof.
Nuke exploding=3% of energy in the nuke itself which is like a planet exploding
Nuke’s 100% energy> 3% of the energy which is like the planet’s energy
Sephiroth was in the energy and survived, omnislash killed him so what do you think? ---
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| 04 Sep 2008 12:07 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Hmmm a simple way to end this fairly would be to say Gohan is the strongest none fused Charicter in DBZ meaning over Kid Buu Goku SSJ3 Majin Vegeta the whole caboose of Z Fighter’s and their enemy’s as Akira Toriyama has stated, so intern he is the most powerful without question and if fighting like he did against Super Buu without use of blast’s or his energy could last for quight sometime against Sephiroth without tire as Mystic drain’s no power at all.
Next Sephiroth is indeed durable but like Buu or Cell who have Regen they have their limitation’s to how much they can withstand and tolirate so it’s likely with Gohan’s strenth and speed he would make short work of Sephiroth combined with his immence fighting capability wouldent you say, and Gohan is likely to see Sephiroth’s attack’s comeing from a mile away with his reaction time+advanced sence’s to boot.
Now pysicaly Gohan has Seph beat, so how douse Sephiroth react to Gohan’s movement’s when he is over Gotenk’s speed and state’s to Super Buu he would have to destroy the entire planet just to catch him in an explotion (manga)?, that’s pretty much covering the planet faster than buu could wipe it out right? witch put’s Gohan around Omnislash speed’s at the very least makeing it even more obviouse Gohan would end Sephiroth.
Now as for sephiroth he is never shown to have absorbed the entire planet’s energy he marely planned to but in the event he could do so he stated he would be reborn as a new existence meaning his currant body couldent handle that kind of energy to begin with, thus after Gohan has beaten Sephiroth to a pulp witch is almost a certified garentee a Kamehameha should pose devistateing if not fatal to Sephiroth almost deffinately when focused primely on him witch boost’s the power even more than it already was before, and that should pose a win for Gohan without a doubt (being Gohan was over his SSJ2 power witch stalemated Cell’s Solar system Destroyer and with the beam being > Light speed as we have witnessed Brolly Babi and Cooler sent to the sun with such attack’s Sephiroth cannot avoid it im affraid).
As for negative Lifestream their are to many factor’s to how long it take’s or any of Sephiroth’s attack’s witch cannot kill Cloud and Co witch <<<<<<<<<Mystic Gohan so i remain unconvinced Sephiroth has the ability to destroy Gohan at all with swords Materia or Negative Life stuff lol. ---
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| 04 Sep 2008 12:12 am |
FUCKING AWESOME Rep: 104  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,068 ONLINE | Gohan can win, he’d just have to watch out for Sephiroth with is power of the negative lifestream, and can’t he become intangible? ---
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| 04 Sep 2008 12:15 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Intangibility is all i see saveing Sephiroth if he react’s intime witch is unlikely as he diden’t do it against Cloud and wouldent see Gohan comeing nevermind the speed his blast’s move ---
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| 04 Sep 2008 12:17 am |
FUCKING AWESOME Rep: 104  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,068 ONLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
Intangibility is all i see saveing Sephiroth if he react’s intime witch is unlikely as he diden’t do it against Cloud and wouldent see Gohan comeing nevermind the speed his blast’s move
Doesn’t he go a little bit too easy on Cloud though? ---
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| 04 Sep 2008 12:30 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 21  Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,015 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
Intangibility is all i see saveing Sephiroth if he react’s intime witch is unlikely as he diden’t do it against Cloud and wouldent see Gohan comeing nevermind the speed his blast’s move
Doesn’t he go a little bit too easy on Cloud though?
Just Cloud is completely outmatched. Seph only loses because he’s a cocky asshole to Cloud. Bwahaha ---
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| 04 Sep 2008 12:33 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
Intangibility is all i see saveing Sephiroth if he react’s intime witch is unlikely as he diden’t do it against Cloud and wouldent see Gohan comeing nevermind the speed his blast’s move
Doesn’t he go a little bit too easy on Cloud though?
lol Regardless of outmatching Cloud flawlessly you don’t let someone kill you if you can indeed avoid an attack do you lol ---
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