| 18 Sep 2008 09:47 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
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2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:50 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,758 OFFLINE | From my point of view, this is going to be interesting. --- The day Im trash is the day Public Enemy becomes Private friends// - 98supra
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:51 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 69  Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,780 OFFLINE | I just wouldn’t bother. Let them have their peace. | |
| 18 Sep 2008 09:52 pm |
or just Red Rep: 72  Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16,991 OFFLINE | Raoul Duke wrote:
From my point of view, this is going to be interesting.
Ditto. Silly Christians. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:52 pm |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49  Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | I’d honestly say to go. I don’t think there’s much chance of them really forcing you into an argument, if they do put you up on the stage, so you likely could avoid getting into an argument. As for the yelling of the parents, I’m pretty sure it’s spread around the church pretty well by now, so if any yelling is going to occur I doubt you going wil change it ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:54 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,758 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
From my point of view, this is going to be interesting.
Ditto. Silly Christians.
Some, or most of them, yes. --- The day Im trash is the day Public Enemy becomes Private friends// - 98supra
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:55 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | NEREVAR117 wrote:
I just wouldn’t bother. Let them have their peace.
What about this Shawn guy who wants to have a word with me about it? There is also the possibility of him and a couple guys talking to me downstairs about it. So ehh...My friend is inconsistant. I will tell him to tell the guy it will be by my terms and my terms only. Not in front of the church. Just a small group or a mano mano conversation ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:56 pm |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 69  Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,780 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
I just wouldn’t bother. Let them have their peace.
What about this Shawn guy who wants to have a word with me about it? There is also the possibility of him and a couple guys talking to me downstairs about it. So ehh...My friend is inconsistant. I will tell him to tell the guy it will be by my terms and my terms only. Not in front of the church. Just a small group or a mano mano conversation
Just don’t be an asshole. >_> | |
| 18 Sep 2008 09:57 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,758 OFFLINE | One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible? --- The day Im trash is the day Public Enemy becomes Private friends// - 98supra
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:57 pm |
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| 18 Sep 2008 09:59 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | NEREVAR117 wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
I just wouldn’t bother. Let them have their peace.
What about this Shawn guy who wants to have a word with me about it? There is also the possibility of him and a couple guys talking to me downstairs about it. So ehh...My friend is inconsistant. I will tell him to tell the guy it will be by my terms and my terms only. Not in front of the church. Just a small group or a mano mano conversation
Just don’t be an asshole. >_>
I’m not a militant type personality. I’m not an asshole. I’m basically just going to debate civily and use all the facts I possibly can. I will tell him/them what I think and why I believe or disbelieve in certian things. I guess I’m just going to be giving my atheist testomony+Debate. If it goes that far. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:00 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Sounds fun
Yeah, I think it is too. But my only concern is them telling the parents and them getting on my ass. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:00 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:01 pm |
FUCK SUPRA Rep: 72  Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 16,645 OFFLINE | Im a Christian and Im with you chibi.
Express yourself and debate with them.
If they have a problem with that than.........I wuddnt realy consider them a Church of Christains ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:02 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | Yeah, I probably will, but like I said, I’m making sure it happens in a place of my terms. I would rather it not be during church service or anything. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:03 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,758 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place. --- The day Im trash is the day Public Enemy becomes Private friends// - 98supra
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:04 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | Raoul Duke wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something. ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:06 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 27  Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 2,758 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean. --- The day Im trash is the day Public Enemy becomes Private friends// - 98supra
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:07 pm |
FUCK SUPRA Rep: 72  Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 16,645 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Yeah, I probably will, but like I said, I’m making sure it happens in a place of my terms. I would rather it not be during church service or anything.
I want it to be........
Speek your mind.
Thats what I did ---
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| 18 Sep 2008 10:07 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | Raoul Duke wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean. ---
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