Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean.
Fiction and non fiction. Heh, you never know.
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Yeah, I think it is too. But my only concern is them telling the parents and them getting on my ass.
Tell your parents you should be able to have your own opinion. And tell the church people that once they realize why they don’t believe in other god’s, they’lle realize why you don’t believe in their god.
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean.
Fiction and non fiction. Heh, you never know.
They need to put the missing books in the bible though. I hear Jesus used to kill people then bring them back to life...I could understand why they took those books out though. Damn divine powers...
Yeah, I think it is too. But my only concern is them telling the parents and them getting on my ass.
Tell your parents you should be able to have your own opinion. And tell the church people that once they realize why they don’t believe in other god’s, they’lle realize why you don’t believe in their god.
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean.
Fiction and non fiction. Heh, you never know.
They need to put the missing books in the bible though. I hear Jesus used to kill people then bring them back to life...I could understand why they took those books out though. Damn divine powers...
Used to kill people? Do huh? Neeever heard this story.
--- The day Im trash is the day Public Enemy becomes Private friends// - 98supra
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean.
Fiction and non fiction. Heh, you never know.
They need to put the missing books in the bible though. I hear Jesus used to kill people then bring them back to life...I could understand why they took those books out though. Damn divine powers...
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean.
Fiction and non fiction. Heh, you never know.
They need to put the missing books in the bible though. I hear Jesus used to kill people then bring them back to life...I could understand why they took those books out though. Damn divine powers...
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah apperently there was an incident where everyone thought he killed his friend and then he rose from the dead. I guess Jesus was a little hellion in between the birth and 12 year old scene where he is talking to the preist people.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
You can’t lose your salvation.
To address the “no evidence” issue, Christianity is a faith-based religion. If there isn’t enough evidence for you now, then there will never be enough evidence for you.
--- Not dead that which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons death may die.
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Personally I would be hoping they would bring me on stage but I am a little bit of an asshole when it comes to these subjects so I wouldn’t recommend it to you.
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Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
exactly no one nos they say its god inspired. the torah was writtin by moses. But they noticed it was writtin in mostly diff writin styles plus how cud moses write bout his death and wat happened afterward????? no one really nos for sure
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
A bunch of guys did.
No, I mean the first part. The whole Adam and Eve thing. I may be Christian, but how would someone even know of that? The only way that they would is that they would have had to have been there in the first place.
One of the main reasons why I don’t trust the bible as a valid source of facts. I mean a “cunning beast of the fields”(a snake, not said to be satan at all) TALKED to them. I know if a snake talked to me...I would just go take medication or something.
Eh, I believe that there was a Jesus, and a God, but the Bible can be a little here and there, if you know what I mean.
It has it’s fiction and non fiction...and acid trip type chapters haha. I know what you mean.
Fiction and non fiction. Heh, you never know.
They need to put the missing books in the bible though. I hear Jesus used to kill people then bring them back to life...I could understand why they took those books out though. Damn divine powers...
When did this happen????? lol u prolly heard wrong then ive never heard of these stories b4
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
You can’t lose your salvation.
To address the “no evidence” issue, Christianity is a faith-based religion. If there isn’t enough evidence for you now, then there will never be enough evidence for you.
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
You can’t lose your salvation.
To address the “no evidence” issue, Christianity is a faith-based religion. If there isn’t enough evidence for you now, then there will never be enough evidence for you.
What’s so great about salvation?
you get to be a mindless drone serving god
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