ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
You can’t lose your salvation.
To address the “no evidence” issue, Christianity is a faith-based religion. If there isn’t enough evidence for you now, then there will never be enough evidence for you.
What’s so great about salvation?
you get to be a mindless drone serving god
and live a life lacking of most worldly pleasures!
XD
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
You can’t lose your salvation.
To address the “no evidence” issue, Christianity is a faith-based religion. If there isn’t enough evidence for you now, then there will never be enough evidence for you.
What’s so great about salvation?
you get to be a mindless drone serving god
and live a life lacking of most worldly pleasures!
XD
I’ll take hell for Eternity Alex.
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Smells Like MVC
“Our little Tribe has always been, and always will, until the end”-Kurdt Kobain
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
You can’t lose your salvation.
To address the “no evidence” issue, Christianity is a faith-based religion. If there isn’t enough evidence for you now, then there will never be enough evidence for you.
What’s so great about salvation?
you get to be a mindless drone serving god
and live a life lacking of most worldly pleasures!
XD
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well I was having a conversation with my friend about god and all that. He believes in god and such and I don’t. He asked me, “Why don’t you believe in god” well I didn’t exactly know how to put “There is no evidence for him” without sounding borderline asshole. So I asked, “Before I say anything, Do you believe in pretty punk flying unicorns?" And of course he said no. I asked “Why?" and he basically said “Because it’s just a fantasy made up by little girls." Then I clarified by saying “So it’s because of the fact there is no evidence correct?" He said yeah.
So he mentioned that he told this Shawn fellow, at his church(My old church actually), that I was an atheist. Now apperently this guy is a really big Christian. So I asked him, “Ok, so then what happened?" He said this guy wanted to have a talk with me and he said my friend should bring me to church so he could do just that.
Well I have no problems doing that, but I figure a few things COULD happen and more than likely will happen:
1. The guy is going to bring this up in front of the church going people and basically invite me up on stage for this little talk. Now while I feel confident that I could utterly destroy them in a debate, I don’t know if I can deal with random people standing up and saying ignorant shit.
OR
2. Another possibility is it’s just going to get around fairly fast and everyone will either a. Be pissed b. Be that “I feel sorry” for you type behavior. I have known these people my whole life pretty much but I never knew how they would react to a concious, diliberate, former christian non believer.
So what should I do guys? Should I take the chance, step up to the plate and try and have a debate with them, or should I just not bother?
The idea of debating them sounds fun. It really does, but considering these people know my parents, other home consequences could POSSIBLY insue. Mostly just yelling probably, but I think I would get defended by my brother in all honesty. At least I hope so.
No one knows about god, no one wants to believe in anything.But from an athiests point of veiw, they dont want hope... whay
I would recommend going if you’re up for it and this guy wants to talk to you. However, I would make it clear that you ONLY want to talk to him. If he tries to take you into the church, then say forget it, because you will be arguing with people currently with a “herd mentality” state of mind. Nothing you say to them will matter, and you will most likely just be up there for mockery.
Stay outside of the church, and make sure that no one other than you, your friend, and this guy are involved. He may only want you to meet him at the church in hopes that being near it will divinely inspire himself and you, lol. Just keep it calm and try to start it off as a honest discussion rather than a debate. If this guy with the ego decides to turn it into a debate, then go right ahead.
Try to keep it light-hearted and not too, too serious.
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
the bible was made of many different books
and these books were made by scribes(guys who write whats happening atm)
and people eventually wanted to organize the book of christ and pulled these books and took the part concerning christ, thus the bible
HOWEVER, the bible has been around forever
and it has been diluted incredibly and not many know what the realy bible had said
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
the bible was made of many different books
and these books were made by scribes(guys who write whats happening atm)
and people eventually wanted to organize the book of christ and pulled these books and took the part concerning christ, thus the bible
HOWEVER, the bible has been around forever
and it has been diluted incredibly and not many know what the realy bible had said
Don’t really trust the bible all that much, other than believing in Jesus.
Raoul Duke wrote:
One thing I’ve always wondered. Who wrote the bible?
the bible was made of many different books
and these books were made by scribes(guys who write whats happening atm)
and people eventually wanted to organize the book of christ and pulled these books and took the part concerning christ, thus the bible
HOWEVER, the bible has been around forever
and it has been diluted incredibly and not many know what the realy bible had said
Don’t really trust the bible all that much, other than believing in Jesus.
nor do i
i have faith in god but my faith isnt the same the bible teaches
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