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[Quote] #1
24 Sep 2008 12:36 am
lionfranky
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I am not sure how many people know Godshu. (Forget about horrendous English dub)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zatch_Bell_and_Kiyo_Takamine
[Quote] #2
24 Sep 2008 12:39 am
lionfranky
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I wish I can post some scans but since I can’t, I hope this helps. I normally don’t like planet buster and above. People say Godshu doesn’t stand chance. I wonder they really saw his feats.

-Going toe to toe against Brago(A dude who sent a bulldozer high effortlessly when he was weaker. So he is easily more than 100 class)
-Avoid many spell attacks. At the end, he avoids Brago’s gravity spells which even Luffy would struggle against. Godshu also avoided Clear Note’s attacks while he was weakened.
-Using his cape as shield. Godshu can control his cape to protect from attacks. His cape tanked spells from Clear Note that busted mountains.
-Kiyomaro, Godshu’s book master. Let’s say he is above Batman and Doctor Doom in brain department. His Answer Talker ability makes him very creative and fast learner. He would quickly analyze Luffy.

Now since Godshu’s spell is based on lightning, his spells won’t work against Luffy. Well his weak spells won’t but... higher spells? Those spells would definitely work against Luffy. Koral Q who could turn himself to rubber lost to Godshu.

Well this is my analysis. If someone has something to argue. Come in.... I expect MB to come here....
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24 Sep 2008 12:39 am
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Man, it’s been a hell of a long time since I watched Zatch Bell. I’d probably go with Zatch here, lest Luffy can withstand some lightning attacks from Zatch, so I’m guessing that Kiyo’s here as well?

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And you should just register here if you want to be able to post scans. grin
Last edited 24 Sep 2008 12:40 am by Darth Nihilus
[Quote] #4
24 Sep 2008 12:48 am
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Darth Nihilus wrote: Man, it’s been a hell of a long time since I watched Zatch Bell. I’d probably go with Zatch here, lest Luffy can withstand some lightning attacks from Zatch, so I’m guessing that Kiyo’s here as well?

Of course, he is with Godshu. I think Godshu can hang with Luffy in gear 2. Maybe, this is assumption but Umagon moved from India to middle of Atlantic ocean in FEW minutes. Godshu said that he wanted to fight Umagon. So it is safe to assume Godshu can hang with Luffy in Gear Second. Maybe, I am wrong. And some of his spells are more of physical than lightning.
I am not sure you are up to final part of the manga. But here are some impressive feats.

Godshu with aid of Zeon, beat Faud. You know the mamodo structure that could have destroyed entire Japan within an hour. Faud makes buster call ants in comparison.
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24 Sep 2008 12:50 am
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lionfranky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote: Man, it’s been a hell of a long time since I watched Zatch Bell. I’d probably go with Zatch here, lest Luffy can withstand some lightning attacks from Zatch, so I’m guessing that Kiyo’s here as well?

Of course, he is with Godshu. I think Godshu can hang with Luffy in gear 2. Maybe, this is assumption but Umagon moved from India to middle of Atlantic ocean in FEW minutes. Godshu said that he wanted to fight Umagon. So it is safe to assume Godshu can hang with Luffy in Gear Second. Maybe, I am wrong. And some of his spells are more of physical than lightning.
I am not sure you are up to final part of the manga. But here are some impressive feats.

Godshu with aid of Zeon, beat Faud. You know the mamodo structure that could have destroyed entire Japan within an hour. Faud makes buster call ants in comparison.


Sadly, I only made it up to where chapter 142. I’m going to read on from there. Although I do remember one attack, Bao Zakeruga.
[Quote] #6
24 Sep 2008 12:53 am
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Darth Nihilus wrote:
lionfranky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote: Man, it’s been a hell of a long time since I watched Zatch Bell. I’d probably go with Zatch here, lest Luffy can withstand some lightning attacks from Zatch, so I’m guessing that Kiyo’s here as well?

Of course, he is with Godshu. I think Godshu can hang with Luffy in gear 2. Maybe, this is assumption but Umagon moved from India to middle of Atlantic ocean in FEW minutes. Godshu said that he wanted to fight Umagon. So it is safe to assume Godshu can hang with Luffy in Gear Second. Maybe, I am wrong. And some of his spells are more of physical than lightning.
I am not sure you are up to final part of the manga. But here are some impressive feats.

Godshu with aid of Zeon, beat Faud. You know the mamodo structure that could have destroyed entire Japan within an hour. Faud makes buster call ants in comparison.


Sadly, I only made it up to where chapter 142. I’m going to read on from there. Although I do remember one attack, Bao Zakeruga.

After hard training, they used that spell more than once in ONE fight. I think Kiyo’s heart energy would probably last longer than Luffy’s stamina.
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24 Sep 2008 12:56 am
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lionfranky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
lionfranky wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote: Man, it’s been a hell of a long time since I watched Zatch Bell. I’d probably go with Zatch here, lest Luffy can withstand some lightning attacks from Zatch, so I’m guessing that Kiyo’s here as well?

Of course, he is with Godshu. I think Godshu can hang with Luffy in gear 2. Maybe, this is assumption but Umagon moved from India to middle of Atlantic ocean in FEW minutes. Godshu said that he wanted to fight Umagon. So it is safe to assume Godshu can hang with Luffy in Gear Second. Maybe, I am wrong. And some of his spells are more of physical than lightning.
I am not sure you are up to final part of the manga. But here are some impressive feats.

Godshu with aid of Zeon, beat Faud. You know the mamodo structure that could have destroyed entire Japan within an hour. Faud makes buster call ants in comparison.


Sadly, I only made it up to where chapter 142. I’m going to read on from there. Although I do remember one attack, Bao Zakeruga.

After hard training, they used that spell more than once in ONE fight. I think Kiyo’s heart energy would probably last longer than Luffy’s stamina.


Well after taking on so many Mamodo while trying to defeat Zophis, he has lots of stamina, I’ll give him that.
[Quote] #8
24 Sep 2008 11:18 am
lionfranky
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I was thinking about making OPverse vs Godshu verese.... until that damn Kizaru and Kuma showed their feats.... It will be like “Oh no! there is no light speed feats from Godshu verse!"
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24 Sep 2008 11:23 am
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lionfranky wrote: I was thinking about making OPverse vs Godshu verese.... until that damn Kizaru and Kuma showed their feats.... It will be like “Oh no! there is no light speed feats from Godshu verse!“


You could always outlaw them from the fight, or at least make their speed even with those from the Godshu verse.
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24 Sep 2008 04:55 pm
lionfranky
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I tried to register but the site doesn’t allow me to do. I don’t know why. Anyway, I will try to get some characters that are unknown to many people their own respect thread.

I also forgot to mention that if it is Godshu with golden spell book supported by whole mamodos, then Luffy has no chance. Even Kuma would struggle against Godshu with golden book.
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24 Sep 2008 04:57 pm
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lionfranky wrote: I tried to register but the site doesn’t allow me to do. I don’t know why. Anyway, I will try to get some characters that are unknown to many people their own respect thread.

I also forgot to mention that if it is Godshu with golden spell book supported by whole mamodos, then Luffy has no chance. Even Kuma would struggle against Godshu with golden book.


Well, you do have an email, right?

Other than that, I’d have to agree.
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24 Sep 2008 05:42 pm
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It trully depends on how strong Gash lightning is.Luffy took Enels island destroying lightning so I’m not to sure.
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[Quote] #13
24 Sep 2008 08:19 pm
lionfranky
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Manchester Black wrote: It trully depends on how strong Gash lightning is.Luffy took Enels island destroying lightning so I’m not to sure.

Well... Although there was Zeon aid, Godshu took out Faud(probably as big as Skypia. Can tank Enel’s island bust attack.) According to Mamodo king aka Godshu’s father, Baou spell was capable of destroying Mamodo realm, so Godshu had to contain the spell. Earth said that Faud and Baou were two threats that his kinds looked over.

I am saying this again. Koral Q who had a spell to transform into rubber(Murom Roboruku, which canceled Zikeld.) lost to Godshu when Godshu was weaker. Godshu also beats Patty who had water spell. Baou Zakeruga beat her Suou Giakuru(Her strongest water spell) although water can supposedly absorb lightning. Some of Godshu’s spells are more than lightning. Yes more powerful than Enel’s attacks. Godshu also tanked mountain buster attacks from Clear Note.

Also keep in mind that Luffy cannot easily speedblitz or outpower Godshu(Look at feats I posted).
[Quote] #14
25 Sep 2008 10:37 am
lionfranky
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Ok let me analyze.

Strength: Luffy seems to have edge here. He has shown bit more impressive feats like golden ball and 100 bedrock. But Godshu is no slutch though. His clash against Ashuron dug huge dirt at their battle ground. He could lift huge rock for short period of time. Winner: Luffy.

Speed: I think many people would say Luffy would simply speedblitz through gear 2. Well Umagon was pretty damn fast. He flew from Africa to Atlantic ocean in few minutes.(I misunderstood certain location.) And Godshu said he wanted to fight him. which means he can react to gear 2. Also, Clear Note was damn fast as well, and Godshu was going toe to toe with that guy. And after taking blast from Clear Note, he still managed to avoid some of his attack. Luffy with gear 2 seems to have edge here but not by long shot. Winner: Luffy but not much.

Stamina, endurance: Well in physical endurance and stamina, Luffy has edge but in defense, Godshu seems to have edge. Godshu easily blocked a spell from Clear Note that busted mountains. He uses cape like his body part.
Winner: Godshu

Variaty: I know Luffy developed his own attack, but it doesn’t match Godshu’s many spells. Zakeruga may be able to hurt Luffy because when Godshu was weaker, the spell penetrated steel wing. I don’t think Baou Zakeruga is something Luffy can take. The spell took out Suou Giakuru, the strongest water spell from Patty when it was weaker. Took out Faud, mamodo structure size of an island.(Although with aid of Zeon)
Winner: Godshu

Intelligence: Luffy is known for adapting to enemy’s attack, but since Kiyomaro is with Godshu. Luffy cannot win at this part. Kiyomaro is way smarter than Dr. Doom and Batman. His answer talker ability gives huge advantage.
And he knows how to control heart energy. I mean he used Baou Zakeruga 3 times in one fight at the last part! So Godshu and Kiyomaro can last long enough to wear down Luffy.
Winner: Godshu
[Quote] #15
26 Sep 2008 08:23 am
lionfranky
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Should we add Naruto here to make it more interesting battle? Oh wait. He wouldn’t last more than 20 seconds....
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