FF7 What if Kenshin was there???...-GASP- Dun Dun Dun

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If he could have hit Kenshin, then that means Kenshin can’t dodge a rapid firing gun. So he’s not as fast as Cloud, Zack, or Seph.

Debate = Over

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Yes, that’s if he could hit him. If he had actually tried to aim for him, then we would have known as to whether or not that he can dodge bullets or not. Besides that, it’s just speculation.

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After reviewing the fight, I see that Kanryu actually clips Kenshin in the end right before Kanryu’s bullet belt is interrupted by Beshimi’s darts.

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About the “warp speed” thing... That means nothing. Many animes show their characters “disappearing” in one place and appearing in another, but this is only to show that they are much faster than the enemy, not that they are litteraly moving-faster-than-the-eyes-can-see.
An example: Yahiko vs Yutarou(sp) in the Raijuta(sp) arc of the anime.
Yutarou attacked him, but Yahiko was so fast, that he “disappeared”. Does it means that Yahiko can move as fast as Kenshin? No. It just means that the anime was showing us how much faster than Yutarou he was.

Kenshin moving at “warping speed” means nothing, because that’s just the anime showing us that “Kenshin can move really fast”.
The question you have to make is: Did he ever block or dodge bullets from multiple machine-guns?
The answer is: No.
Therefore, Zack, Cloud, and Sephiroth are much faster than him.

And about Kenshin’s skill... I’m sorry, but he is not SO skilled as people believe. Most of his attacks are more about speed than anything else. Hell, most of them we can’t even see it happening(Amakakeru Ryu No Rirameki for example, where he runs toward his enemy and the ONLY thing we see in the screen, is a bunch of japanese letters. Sorry, but “japanese letters on the screen” isn’t proof of skill).
Kenshin is like all the other japanese shounen heroes. Everyone in the series say that he is very skilled, but if we compare it with REAL skill, from the REAL world, Kenshin isn’t very good. He is just insanely fast.

Now look at Cloud, Zack, and Sephiroth. We can actualy SEE what they are doing. FFVII don’t use the “warping speed” trick to PRETEND that they are skilled. We see all their movements, and they actually ARE skilled. More than Kenshin, at least.

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Whoa ok dude’s just to clarify one or two thing’s here,



Kenshinn dodged the gunfire and charged in the open straight a it with nothing to hide behind, Sure one cliped him but take into account,

a, Cloud has been tagged by bullet’s Yazzo anyone who shot him in the face in the begging of AC

b, Zack was shot the crap out of in CC

so they mabe bullet time but that dousent make them impossible to hit Kenshin is just freakily fast that’s all

Next his skill in battle has been proved in many occation’s he is the Battosia man slayer for a reason (deafeating 600 men at 14yr’s old is skill enough for me) plus the whole seventy odd episode’s people are trying to kill him because he is the best and the strongest and most skilled in Japan.

And another thing so what if his tech’s and style involve speed douse that make them less effective in actual battle?, Sajiro was way faster than Kenshinn yet he beat him so therefore he is more impressive to have beat a faster opponent than himself wouldent you agree, and finaly how douse Kenshin being faster make him lose to Zack or Cloud, the fact you can see them fight only show’s their slower than Himura???

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That’s the thing though. In the anime version, he was dodging the bullets, in the manga, the man firing the bullets was missing on purpose.

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Okay, Kenshin can dodge bullets from a gun... But Zack, Cloud, and Seph can dodge bullets from multiple guns.



Did you see the distance he was from Cloud?! I want to see Kenshing dodging or blocking something like that.



Yeah... After kicking the ass of an entire army, and being too exausted to dodge/block the bullets of the remaining soldiers(just 3).



I never said they were impossible to hit. I’m just saying that they are faster than Kenshin.



Read what I said before:

“Kenshin is like all the other japanese shounen heroes. Everyone in the series say that he is very skilled, but if we compare it with REAL skill, from the REAL world, Kenshin isn’t very good. He is just insanely fast."



Sajiro? Are you talking about Seijirou Riku(Kenshin’s master) or Soujirou Seta(the boy of Jupongatana)?
If you are talking about Seijirou, he wasn’t faster than Kenshin. He was physicaly stronger, not faster.
If you are talking about Soujirou, Kenshin didn’t beat him with skill, but with psychology. He made Soujirou doubt himself, he “broke” Soujirou’s unemotional “mask”.



Read my previous post. If what we see is the only thing that maters, then Yahiko is as fast as Kenshin, because of his fight with Youtarou. But we know that’s not true.

FFVII have a different style of showing speed than Rurouni Kenshin. But it’s just a different style, nothing more.
If we want to know who is faster, we have to see what they can do with their speed.
FFVII characters can dodge shots from multiple machine-guns. Kenshin can dodge bullets from only one machine-gun.
FFVII characters are faster.

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Guys everyone is forgetting that Cloud DID dodge a point blanker, LATER on in the movie.