kev360 wrote:
so, its the same as protestants, except they don’t believe that jesus rose from the dead/is God, and they believe that there is no hell? also, the predestination thing, but that changes from doctrine to doctrine.
More or less, yes. I still have the belief that he rose from the dead, but being God, no. Son of God, that I do believe. Heaven and Hell? I believe.
kev360 wrote:
so, its the same as protestants, except they don’t believe that jesus rose from the dead/is God, and they believe that there is no hell? also, the predestination thing, but that changes from doctrine to doctrine.
More or less, yes. I still have the belief that he rose from the dead, but being God, no. Son of God, that I do believe. Heaven and Hell? I believe.
Crimson_Blade wrote:
What denomination were you before your “conversion” to this form of Deism?
I’m not exactly sure if I am a “Christian Deist”. For me, it’s like this. I believe in the presence of a higher power, I.E. God, and believe in Jesus Christ to be the Son of God, etc, but don’t really believe in some or most of the things in the Bible. And as denomination, just a Presbyterian Christian.
Crimson_Blade wrote:
What denomination were you before your “conversion” to this form of Deism?
I’m not exactly sure if I am a “Christian Deist”. For me, it’s like this. I believe in the presence of a higher power, I.E. God, and believe in Jesus Christ to be the Son of God, etc, but don’t really believe in some or most of the things in the Bible. And as denomination, just a Presbyterian Christian.
so, basically, you believe in God, but you think most of the bible was a myth (excusing the connotation of the word, probably) built up around this God?
"Christian Deist” seems to be a contradiction of terms. Deists believe in a universal God that created everything, but largely reject organized religion/religious texts. Jesus being the messiah/son of God is quintessential in Christian doctrine. Believing him any less and his entire purpose turns futile. He came to cleanse humanity of sin, so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life (John 3:16). Yet if you don’t believe in Jesus being Son of God/Messiah, then you really haven’t got much “Christian” in that Deism.
Braise wrote:
“Christian Deist” seems to be a contradiction of terms. Deists believe in a universal God that created everything, but largely reject organized religion/religious texts. Jesus being the messiah/son of God is quintessential in Christian doctrine. Believing him any less and his entire purpose turns futile. He came to cleanse humanity of sin, so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life (John 3:16). Yet if you don’t believe in Jesus being Son of God/Messiah, then you really haven’t got much “Christian” in that Deism.
Yes, that’s if yo don’t believe in him being the son of God.
Braise wrote:
“Christian Deist” seems to be a contradiction of terms. Deists believe in a universal God that created everything, but largely reject organized religion/religious texts. Jesus being the messiah/son of God is quintessential in Christian doctrine. Believing him any less and his entire purpose turns futile. He came to cleanse humanity of sin, so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life (John 3:16). Yet if you don’t believe in Jesus being Son of God/Messiah, then you really haven’t got much “Christian” in that Deism.
Yes, that’s if yo don’t believe in him being the son of God.
Braise wrote:
“Christian Deist” seems to be a contradiction of terms. Deists believe in a universal God that created everything, but largely reject organized religion/religious texts. Jesus being the messiah/son of God is quintessential in Christian doctrine. Believing him any less and his entire purpose turns futile. He came to cleanse humanity of sin, so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life (John 3:16). Yet if you don’t believe in Jesus being Son of God/Messiah, then you really haven’t got much “Christian” in that Deism.
Yes, that’s if yo don’t believe in him being the son of God.
But if you reject one thing, why not everything?
Why at all? Just because one person rejects one thing does not mean that they have to reject the other as well.
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Braise wrote:
“Christian Deist” seems to be a contradiction of terms. Deists believe in a universal God that created everything, but largely reject organized religion/religious texts. Jesus being the messiah/son of God is quintessential in Christian doctrine. Believing him any less and his entire purpose turns futile. He came to cleanse humanity of sin, so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life (John 3:16). Yet if you don’t believe in Jesus being Son of God/Messiah, then you really haven’t got much “Christian” in that Deism.
Yes, that’s if yo don’t believe in him being the son of God.
But if you reject one thing, why not everything?
Why at all? Just because one person rejects one thing does not mean that they have to reject the other as well.
Jesus being the 'son of God' is essential to being a Christian. Without it, without that reasoning behind his sacrifice, the Christianity is gone. Its just plain Deism with hints of Christianity. Abrahamic Deism, maybe?
Braise wrote:
“Christian Deist” seems to be a contradiction of terms. Deists believe in a universal God that created everything, but largely reject organized religion/religious texts. Jesus being the messiah/son of God is quintessential in Christian doctrine. Believing him any less and his entire purpose turns futile. He came to cleanse humanity of sin, so that whoever believes in him may have eternal life (John 3:16). Yet if you don’t believe in Jesus being Son of God/Messiah, then you really haven’t got much “Christian” in that Deism.
Yes, that’s if yo don’t believe in him being the son of God.
But if you reject one thing, why not everything?
Why at all? Just because one person rejects one thing does not mean that they have to reject the other as well.
Jesus being the 'son of God' is essential to being a Christian. Without it, without that reasoning behind his sacrifice, the Christianity is gone. Its just plain Deism with hints of Christianity. Abrahamic Deism, maybe?
Not actually a bad assumption. Abrahamic Deism... it has a ring to it.
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