| 14 Oct 2008 01:33 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
Chaos Theory Made | | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:34 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
It just depends how long he leaves the battle field, remember there is a time frame to get back.
Surfer is faster than instant.
17 reacts to things that are instant without much trouble. Anyway, PCS is slower than Surfer anyway isn’t he? Is Supes instant speed?
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:34 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 30 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,027 ONLINE | Fair enough, but he still speedblitzes 17, I mean do you really think 17 has Thanos like reflexes?
But the thing with Surfers time travelling I just remembered, if he goes fast enough he can just go back in time before 17 reacts, thus he didn’t leave the battlefield. ---
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 | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:35 pm |
Regular Rep: 8 Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 361 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
98supra wrote:
Mystic Kal-El wrote:
I don’t think so and I need to see the feat,too. Plus 17 only absorbed ki anyway via speedblitz.
he absorbs physical attacks.
Speed Blits + Super 17 = Super Speedy power enlargment
He has been shown to absorb ki blasts. I don’t know where you’re getting the physical attacks from.
gero said energy, no ki | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:35 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions. | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:36 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | Ultraman wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
98supra wrote:
Mystic Kal-El wrote:
I don’t think so and I need to see the feat,too. Plus 17 only absorbed ki anyway via speedblitz.
he absorbs physical attacks.
Speed Blits + Super 17 = Super Speedy power enlargment
He has been shown to absorb ki blasts. I don’t know where you’re getting the physical attacks from.
gero said energy, no ki
Ki is energy. | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:36 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 30Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,027 ONLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Buster Sword wrote:
It just depends how long he leaves the battle field, remember there is a time frame to get back.
Surfer is faster than instant.
17 reacts to things that are instant without much trouble. Anyway, PCS is slower than Surfer anyway isn’t he? Is Supes instant speed?
Way slower. He can probably react to Superman but not Surfer/Flash.
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WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
| | | 14 Oct 2008 01:37 pm |
Regular Rep: 8Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 361 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ultraman wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
98supra wrote:
Mystic Kal-El wrote:
I don’t think so and I need to see the feat,too. Plus 17 only absorbed ki anyway via speedblitz.
he absorbs physical attacks.
Speed Blits + Super 17 = Super Speedy power enlargment
He has been shown to absorb ki blasts. I don’t know where you’re getting the physical attacks from.
gero said energy, no ki
Ki is energy.
so is punching (kinetic energy) and the sun (solar energy) | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:38 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
Fair enough, but he still speedblitzes 17, I mean do you really think 17 has Thanos like reflexes?
But the thing with Surfers time travelling I just remembered, if he goes fast enough he can just go back in time before 17 reacts, thus he didn’t leave the battlefield.
17 reacts to things that move instantly without trouble, and Supes is not that fast I don’t think. So as far as reflexes 17 should be able to react without problems. Durability, eh, he has taken something that is WAY more than a planet busting type energy and it didn’t phase him so I figure supes punches arn’t going to do TOO much if much at all. Strength wise...Well, he did kick some things out in to space if I remember right.
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:38 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | Ultraman wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Ultraman wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
98supra wrote:
Mystic Kal-El wrote:
I don’t think so and I need to see the feat,too. Plus 17 only absorbed ki anyway via speedblitz.
he absorbs physical attacks.
Speed Blits + Super 17 = Super Speedy power enlargment
He has been shown to absorb ki blasts. I don’t know where you’re getting the physical attacks from.
gero said energy, no ki
Ki is energy.
so is punching (kinetic energy) and the sun (solar energy)
I know that. | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:38 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:39 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 30Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 3,027 ONLINE | Yeah which is why it’s a good fight for Supes, but not Surfer.
Interesting fight indeed. ---
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seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
| | | 14 Oct 2008 01:41 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
Yeah which is why it’s a good fight for Supes, but not Surfer.
Interesting fight indeed.
Yeah I know lol
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:43 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then. | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:47 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then.
Yeah, So I dunno if Supes can phase Super 17 or not. There would be no reason for Gohan to use less force on Super 17 than he did with that punch with Frieza(Who’s body can sustain a planet buster and he comepletly destroyed it with a punch)
So Gohan’s punch>Frieza’s body and durability>Planet explosion
Super 17 was UNPHASED by Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically>>His punch. I don’t remember Superman ever using a punch to destroy someone comepletly who could survive a planet explosion or even just the BODY.
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:52 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then.
Yeah, So I dunno if Supes can phase Super 17 or not. There would be no reason for Gohan to use less force on Super 17 than he did with that punch with Frieza(Who’s body can sustain a planet buster and he comepletly destroyed it with a punch)
So Gohan’s punch>Frieza’s body and durability>Planet explosion
Super 17 was UNPHASED by Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically>>His punch. I don’t remember Superman ever using a punch to destroy someone comepletly who could survive a planet explosion or even just the BODY.
I don’t know about 17 surviving a planet explosion, but absorbing a planet exploding attack, he seems to be able to, since he’s absorbed such attacks as Goku’s 10x Kamehameha, but even still, absorbing such an attack makes him vulnerable to damage. | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:54 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then.
Yeah, So I dunno if Supes can phase Super 17 or not. There would be no reason for Gohan to use less force on Super 17 than he did with that punch with Frieza(Who’s body can sustain a planet buster and he comepletly destroyed it with a punch)
So Gohan’s punch>Frieza’s body and durability>Planet explosion
Super 17 was UNPHASED by Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically>>His punch. I don’t remember Superman ever using a punch to destroy someone comepletly who could survive a planet explosion or even just the BODY.
I don’t know about 17 surviving a planet explosion, but absorbing a planet exploding attack, he seems to be able to, since he’s absorbed such attacks as Goku’s 10x Kamehameha, but even still, absorbing such an attack makes him vulnerable to damage.
Frieza survies planet explosions, Gohan’s punch destroyed him. Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically using more power against 17 couldn’t phase him.
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:58 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then.
Yeah, So I dunno if Supes can phase Super 17 or not. There would be no reason for Gohan to use less force on Super 17 than he did with that punch with Frieza(Who’s body can sustain a planet buster and he comepletly destroyed it with a punch)
So Gohan’s punch>Frieza’s body and durability>Planet explosion
Super 17 was UNPHASED by Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically>>His punch. I don’t remember Superman ever using a punch to destroy someone comepletly who could survive a planet explosion or even just the BODY.
I don’t know about 17 surviving a planet explosion, but absorbing a planet exploding attack, he seems to be able to, since he’s absorbed such attacks as Goku’s 10x Kamehameha, but even still, absorbing such an attack makes him vulnerable to damage.
Frieza survies planet explosions, Gohan’s punch destroyed him. Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically using more power against 17 couldn’t phase him.
But, what if Gohan’s punch>Trunks' sword>Planet explosion? Isn’t that how it should do? I mean, Freiza couldn’t even endure an attack from a sword. | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:59 pm |
Don't waste my time Rep: 61Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 13,837 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then.
Yeah, So I dunno if Supes can phase Super 17 or not. There would be no reason for Gohan to use less force on Super 17 than he did with that punch with Frieza(Who’s body can sustain a planet buster and he comepletly destroyed it with a punch)
So Gohan’s punch>Frieza’s body and durability>Planet explosion
Super 17 was UNPHASED by Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically>>His punch. I don’t remember Superman ever using a punch to destroy someone comepletly who could survive a planet explosion or even just the BODY.
I don’t know about 17 surviving a planet explosion, but absorbing a planet exploding attack, he seems to be able to, since he’s absorbed such attacks as Goku’s 10x Kamehameha, but even still, absorbing such an attack makes him vulnerable to damage.
Frieza survies planet explosions, Gohan’s punch destroyed him. Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically using more power against 17 couldn’t phase him.
But, what if Gohan’s punch>Trunks' sword>Planet explosion? Isn’t that how it should do? I mean, Freiza couldn’t even endure an attack from a sword.
true
Chaos Theory Made | | | 14 Oct 2008 01:59 pm |
I'm going back. Rep: 104Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 36,294 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Goku’s IT is instant and 17 could follow Goku’s movements and couter attack.
About that. You mean this ability?
Ultra Sensitivity - By concentrating his mind, Super 17 can sense the very changes in the air and sound, which allows him to detect even the stealthiest opponents, such as Goku using the Shunkan Ido. This ability can be disrupted by loud sounds such as explosions.
Superman won’t be causing loud sounds when he is trying to speedblitz though. Besides if he could detect instant movements, then Superman is going to be like a turtle to detect.
Although, there is also another factor, 17 absorbing Superman’s energy. But then again, there’s also a limit to what he can take each time that he absorbs, for example, when he absorbed Goku’s 10x Kamehameha. Didn’t he almost overload?
He got really big and shit, he showed no worries. It is only bad when he gets that big and then someone plows through him and then destroys his body from there. Well anyway, Superman can easily shrug off planet busters. SSJ Goku took out Rildo who was as strong as Majin Buu. SSJ4 10x kamehameha was defently use of more energy and power than he used against Rildo. Not only that but Gohan once punched Frieza and he exploded at base. We all know Frieza’s body is powerful enough to sustain a planet explosion yet Gohan’s punch destroyed him comepletly. 17 took Gohans’s Kamehameha and didn’t so much as flinch.
That’s the problem with GT. So many contradictions.
Where is the controdiction?
I unno. Just had something on my mind then.
Yeah, So I dunno if Supes can phase Super 17 or not. There would be no reason for Gohan to use less force on Super 17 than he did with that punch with Frieza(Who’s body can sustain a planet buster and he comepletly destroyed it with a punch)
So Gohan’s punch>Frieza’s body and durability>Planet explosion
Super 17 was UNPHASED by Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically>>His punch. I don’t remember Superman ever using a punch to destroy someone comepletly who could survive a planet explosion or even just the BODY.
I don’t know about 17 surviving a planet explosion, but absorbing a planet exploding attack, he seems to be able to, since he’s absorbed such attacks as Goku’s 10x Kamehameha, but even still, absorbing such an attack makes him vulnerable to damage.
Frieza survies planet explosions, Gohan’s punch destroyed him. Gohan’s Kamehameha which is logically using more power against 17 couldn’t phase him.
But, what if Gohan’s punch>Trunks' sword>Planet explosion? Isn’t that how it should do? I mean, Freiza couldn’t even endure an attack from a sword.
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And Goku was able to block his sword with a finger, and yet he can’t even take a needle. | | |
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