| 20 Jul 2008 05:18 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE | XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with anything but WHOOO! GO Sony! 
With your statement buddy or did you direct it to the optional installs? You have to live with it, this feature is pretty much useless as of now. MS has to massively drop the prices and bring out bigger HDD’s or release an adapter or something so people can use standard laptop HDD’s.
Um right, because the HDD’s they have now are completely useless. I totally forgot that.
Enough bullshitting around the bush, eh? Installs was one of the advantages for the PS3. Now the 360 has it, and suddenly the Ps3 fans look for a new excuse to hide behind.
Drop the hate, be a gamer, not sheep.
Whatever, I’m out.
It’s only an advantage because we can use big and cheap HDD’s. If not I would be pretty pissed about the installs, I have like 12 games and my HDD is already full and I had to delete demos, not good. I would show the middle finger to Sony if we wouldn’t have the HDD option. In your case it’s not that bad as it’s optional, so nothing to get pissed about, just useless. How many games can the non Elite users install? 1? 2? Ridiculous.
Better then being forced to eventually buy bigger HDD’s. 
The point is the 360 can’t expand above 120Gb hard drives, and then the 120Gb is at rip off MS prices.
Your point? I’m not forced to pay money. 
Still you have no choice but too pay MS rip off prices when you decide to upgrade.
Well duh! You literally just said “You have to pay money to buy something!"
Fact is, 360 owners don’t have to buy a bigger HDD. But the PS3 Fans eventually will, and it will be more more expensive then say, Live? 
As I already said - nonsense and what? More expensive than Live? Buddy I get 320gb for €70, that’s just €10 more for ONE year Live. You already paid more 
I payed 70 bucks for two years, thanks to my intense CoD4 skills and Xtrm.
Oh so 2 years, you still end up paying more.
100 bucks?
not sure about your currency compared to canuk currency but thats about as much as a 200 gig HDD here. ---
 | | | | 20 Jul 2008 05:37 pm |
XBT Guest | CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/07/is_the_mystery_game_revealed.html]Is the mystery game revealed?[/url]
I have the feeling PS3 has much to come while 360 is already maxed out.
wasn’t FF13 supposed to use all the SPU’s in PS3?
Last time I checked...
Oh yeah.
So explain how 360 is maxed out, when games ARE coming out looking better than ever and only separated by about a single game on PS3 which could probably be done on 360 seeing as FF13 can.
Just because it’s supposed to use all SPU’s doesn’t mean it will use them correctly. Still a lot of room of improvement.
Only marginal better, so as I said little room for improvement. PS3 games may see huge improvements as valid sources are stating.
Last time I checked FF13 isnt out yet, so nobody yet knows how the 360 version will end up.
[url=http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/16/e308-ffxiii-team-will-find-ways-to-compress-and-not-affect-the/] except what SQX has said... [/url]
Shit, I bet the reason FF13 went multiplatform was because sony isn’t willing to fund alot of money into them for the game after over a decade of loyalty but are willing to spend the most on a game ever for guerrilla who haven’t made an above average game for them a single time.
Then MS musta came around and said “Lol we have monee”
And thats how she rolled...
Yep they try,doesn’t mean it will end up same.
Sony bought Guerilla and have all the rights, this would hardly be the case with SE. | | | 20 Jul 2008 05:40 pm |
XBT Guest | CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
The 360’s 20Gb, 60Gb & 120Gb models will run out of space fast. Atleast the PS3 hard drive is upgradeable above 120Gb & cheaply.
They are all optional PS3 Fan.
That’s really, really nice that it’s optional, but in reality everybody will want to use it as it brings advantages. You have repeated instlling and deleting infront of you while we have the option to get huge HDD#s for cheap 
I could always buy a 3rd party 360 HDD if I became as lazy as some people here to not delete demos when i’m done with them.
Demos? You will have to repeatendly install and delete games. It’s called pain in the ass. You have 2 options:
1. pain in the ass
2. getting assraped

What? I only have plans to install a single game, Mass Effect.
So you don’t wanna have the advantages in all other games? LOL
30% reduced loading times are nice, but Xbug, I don’t know about you but I don’t have 'attention defecate Hyperactive disorder' so I can wait an extra 5 seconds, lol.
Oh so now it’s just the loading times? I thought it brings also better performance like less popups and you don’t need to hear the very loud drive. This brings me back to my statement that 360 copies the games on HDD and not just install, otherwise you would still have to usethe drive. So in other words takes more room than the PS3 installs ouch | | | 20 Jul 2008 05:42 pm |
XBT Guest | CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
Not sure what that has to do with anything but WHOOO! GO Sony! 
With your statement buddy or did you direct it to the optional installs? You have to live with it, this feature is pretty much useless as of now. MS has to massively drop the prices and bring out bigger HDD’s or release an adapter or something so people can use standard laptop HDD’s.
Um right, because the HDD’s they have now are completely useless. I totally forgot that.
Enough bullshitting around the bush, eh? Installs was one of the advantages for the PS3. Now the 360 has it, and suddenly the Ps3 fans look for a new excuse to hide behind.
Drop the hate, be a gamer, not sheep.
Whatever, I’m out.
It’s only an advantage because we can use big and cheap HDD’s. If not I would be pretty pissed about the installs, I have like 12 games and my HDD is already full and I had to delete demos, not good. I would show the middle finger to Sony if we wouldn’t have the HDD option. In your case it’s not that bad as it’s optional, so nothing to get pissed about, just useless. How many games can the non Elite users install? 1? 2? Ridiculous.
Better then being forced to eventually buy bigger HDD’s. 
The point is the 360 can’t expand above 120Gb hard drives, and then the 120Gb is at rip off MS prices.
Your point? I’m not forced to pay money. 
Still you have no choice but too pay MS rip off prices when you decide to upgrade.
Well duh! You literally just said “You have to pay money to buy something!"
Fact is, 360 owners don’t have to buy a bigger HDD. But the PS3 Fans eventually will, and it will be more more expensive then say, Live? 
As I already said - nonsense and what? More expensive than Live? Buddy I get 320gb for €70, that’s just €10 more for ONE year Live. You already paid more 
I payed 70 bucks for two years, thanks to my intense CoD4 skills and Xtrm.
Oh so 2 years, you still end up paying more.
100 bucks?
not sure about your currency compared to canuk currency but thats about as much as a 200 gig HDD here.
You paying $100 for just 200gb? WOW we get here 320gb for like €70, Live costs btw €60 | | | 20 Jul 2008 05:49 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE | XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
The 360’s 20Gb, 60Gb & 120Gb models will run out of space fast. Atleast the PS3 hard drive is upgradeable above 120Gb & cheaply.
They are all optional PS3 Fan.
That’s really, really nice that it’s optional, but in reality everybody will want to use it as it brings advantages. You have repeated instlling and deleting infront of you while we have the option to get huge HDD#s for cheap 
I could always buy a 3rd party 360 HDD if I became as lazy as some people here to not delete demos when i’m done with them.
Demos? You will have to repeatendly install and delete games. It’s called pain in the ass. You have 2 options:
1. pain in the ass
2. getting assraped

What? I only have plans to install a single game, Mass Effect.
So you don’t wanna have the advantages in all other games? LOL
30% reduced loading times are nice, but Xbug, I don’t know about you but I don’t have 'attention defecate Hyperactive disorder' so I can wait an extra 5 seconds, lol.
Oh so now it’s just the loading times? I thought it brings also better performance like less popups and you don’t need to hear the very loud drive. This brings me back to my statement that 360 copies the games on HDD and not just install, otherwise you would still have to usethe drive. So in other words takes more room than the PS3 installs ouch
I don’t know where you got that stuff from, the only thing confirmed so far is reduced loads as the D drive doesn’t spin. ---
 | | | 20 Jul 2008 05:58 pm |
PS3 addict Rep: 26  Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 14,871 OFFLINE | CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
wasn’t FF13 supposed to use all the SPU’s in PS3?
Last time I checked...
Oh yeah.
So explain how 360 is maxed out, when games ARE coming out looking better than ever and only separated by about a single game on PS3 which could probably be done on 360 seeing as FF13 can.
Just because it’s supposed to use all SPU’s doesn’t mean it will use them correctly. Still a lot of room of improvement.
Only marginal better, so as I said little room for improvement. PS3 games may see huge improvements as valid sources are stating.
Last time I checked FF13 isnt out yet, so nobody yet knows how the 360 version will end up.
except what SQX has said...
Shit, I bet the reason FF13 went multiplatform was because sony isn’t willing to fund alot of money into them for the game after over a decade of loyalty but are willing to spend the most on a game ever for guerrilla who haven’t made an above average game for them a single time.
Then MS musta came around and said “Lol we have monee”
And thats how she rolled...
FF XIII Versus still remains PS3 Exclusive. ---
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------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE | PS3 Fan wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
wasn’t FF13 supposed to use all the SPU’s in PS3?
Last time I checked...
Oh yeah.
So explain how 360 is maxed out, when games ARE coming out looking better than ever and only separated by about a single game on PS3 which could probably be done on 360 seeing as FF13 can.
Just because it’s supposed to use all SPU’s doesn’t mean it will use them correctly. Still a lot of room of improvement.
Only marginal better, so as I said little room for improvement. PS3 games may see huge improvements as valid sources are stating.
Last time I checked FF13 isnt out yet, so nobody yet knows how the 360 version will end up.
except what SQX has said...
Shit, I bet the reason FF13 went multiplatform was because sony isn’t willing to fund alot of money into them for the game after over a decade of loyalty but are willing to spend the most on a game ever for guerrilla who haven’t made an above average game for them a single time.
Then MS musta came around and said “Lol we have monee”
And thats how she rolled...
FF XIII Versus still remains PS3 Exclusive.
Good for versus, we aren’t talking about versus. ---
 | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:23 pm | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:24 pm |
XBT Guest | CPO Fraser wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/07/is_the_mystery_game_revealed.html]Is the mystery game revealed?[/url]
I have the feeling PS3 has much to come while 360 is already maxed out.
wasn’t FF13 supposed to use all the SPU’s in PS3?
Last time I checked...
Oh yeah.
So explain how 360 is maxed out, when games ARE coming out looking better than ever and only separated by about a single game on PS3 which could probably be done on 360 seeing as FF13 can.
Just because it’s supposed to use all SPU’s doesn’t mean it will use them correctly. Still a lot of room of improvement.
Only marginal better, so as I said little room for improvement. PS3 games may see huge improvements as valid sources are stating.
Last time I checked FF13 isnt out yet, so nobody yet knows how the 360 version will end up.
[url=http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/07/16/e308-ffxiii-team-will-find-ways-to-compress-and-not-affect-the/] except what SQX has said... [/url]
Shit, I bet the reason FF13 went multiplatform was because sony isn’t willing to fund alot of money into them for the game after over a decade of loyalty but are willing to spend the most on a game ever for guerrilla who haven’t made an above average game for them a single time.
Then MS musta came around and said “Lol we have monee”
And thats how she rolled...
FF XIII Versus still remains PS3 Exclusive.
Good for versus, we aren’t talking about versus.
Who cares, by the time FF is out the war will be already decided. | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:25 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE | XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
PS3 Fan wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
XBT wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
wasn’t FF13 supposed to use all the SPU’s in PS3?
Last time I checked...
Oh yeah.
So explain how 360 is maxed out, when games ARE coming out looking better than ever and only separated by about a single game on PS3 which could probably be done on 360 seeing as FF13 can.
Just because it’s supposed to use all SPU’s doesn’t mean it will use them correctly. Still a lot of room of improvement.
Only marginal better, so as I said little room for improvement. PS3 games may see huge improvements as valid sources are stating.
Last time I checked FF13 isnt out yet, so nobody yet knows how the 360 version will end up.
except what SQX has said...
Shit, I bet the reason FF13 went multiplatform was because sony isn’t willing to fund alot of money into them for the game after over a decade of loyalty but are willing to spend the most on a game ever for guerrilla who haven’t made an above average game for them a single time.
Then MS musta came around and said “Lol we have monee”
And thats how she rolled...
FF XIII Versus still remains PS3 Exclusive.
Good for versus, we aren’t talking about versus.
Who cares, by the time FF is out the war will be already decided.
The war against terrorism will be over? WICKED. ---
 | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:26 pm | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:30 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE |
The poem and voice work makes the trailer. ---
 | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:38 pm | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:40 pm |
Taking noobs to school Rep: 44  Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 16,040 OFFLINE | XBT wrote:
Di5turbed wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
Your fanboyism never ceases to amaze me. 
Pfff tztz the troll has spoken and unlike for 360 there are reports about supposendly groundbreaking and breathtaking PS3 games. It’s also simple logic, the 360 architecture is not much different from PC, so it’s easy to develope, the devs know the hardware perfectly and can use all the trics. Not much room for improvement. This can’t be said about the PS3, everybody is new to such hardware and there is huge room for improvement. Maybe Sony finally figured it out how to use PS3’s huge power correctly. Yep huge HUUUUUGE power, everybody just needs to take a look at Folding@Home, it pretty much pwns PC’s bigtime, now if Sony figured it out how to bring this power to games, then well...SAYONARA
Lol everyone knows the cell is good for handling complex algorithms but for games it sucks balls
Really? I thought most devs don’t even know how to use Cell correctly.
Nope its been proven that cell sucks for games ---
 | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:42 pm |
XBT Guest | Di5turbed wrote:
XBT wrote:
Di5turbed wrote:
XbugTerminator wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote:
Your fanboyism never ceases to amaze me. 
Pfff tztz the troll has spoken and unlike for 360 there are reports about supposendly groundbreaking and breathtaking PS3 games. It’s also simple logic, the 360 architecture is not much different from PC, so it’s easy to develope, the devs know the hardware perfectly and can use all the trics. Not much room for improvement. This can’t be said about the PS3, everybody is new to such hardware and there is huge room for improvement. Maybe Sony finally figured it out how to use PS3’s huge power correctly. Yep huge HUUUUUGE power, everybody just needs to take a look at Folding@Home, it pretty much pwns PC’s bigtime, now if Sony figured it out how to bring this power to games, then well...SAYONARA
Lol everyone knows the cell is good for handling complex algorithms but for games it sucks balls
Really? I thought most devs don’t even know how to use Cell correctly.
Nope its been proven that cell sucks for games
Sure | | | 20 Jul 2008 06:48 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE |
Looks terrific, PC will obviously be the best version, but considering Dice’s AMAZING work on BF  C’s Visuals I have no doubt they won’t be impressive on the 360 and PS3 versions as well. ---
 | | | 20 Jul 2008 07:21 pm |
Going Sentimental Rep: 27  Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 7,796 | CPO Fraser wrote:
Looks terrific, PC will obviously be the best version, but considering Dice’s AMAZING work on BF  C’s Visuals I have no doubt they won’t be impressive on the 360 and PS3 versions as well.
They style of the game is simply stunning. I have never seen a game with hand motions completely modeled in. --- "We can’t solve problems using the same thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein
Procedure for Posting Images...General Rules | | | 20 Jul 2008 07:24 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE | goldenraptor wrote:
CPO Fraser wrote:
Looks terrific, PC will obviously be the best version, but considering Dice’s AMAZING work on BF  C’s Visuals I have no doubt they won’t be impressive on the 360 and PS3 versions as well.
They style of the game is simply stunning. I have never seen a game with hand motions completely modeled in.
Actually needing to watch your steps is a phenomenal.... thing. ---
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Going Sentimental Rep: 27  Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 7,796 | Thing... aspect? --- "We can’t solve problems using the same thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein
Procedure for Posting Images...General Rules | | | 20 Jul 2008 07:30 pm |
------SSDD------ Rep: 36  Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Posts: 12,682 OFFLINE | goldenraptor wrote:
Thing... aspect?
Thats what I was searching for, yes, Aspect. ---
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