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14 Apr 2008 12:24 am
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ModernSatanist wrote: U scare me.

Wait till you look out you window LoL...NOW!!!

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FAGS

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Cause the nigga wear a kufi, it don’t mean that he bright/ Cause you don’t understand him it don’t mean that he nice/
It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he write/Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
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14 Apr 2008 12:26 am
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KlNG JOHN wrote: FAGS

I know I am but what are you a boy who replaces care and stability with expensive shitshocked

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14 Apr 2008 12:27 am
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...help...

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14 Apr 2008 12:28 am
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1indainfinite wrote:
KlNG JOHN wrote: FAGS

I know I am but what are you a boy who replaces care and stability with expensive shitshocked


Naw i have care, stability, and expensive shit

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Cause the nigga wear a kufi, it don’t mean that he bright/ Cause you don’t understand him it don’t mean that he nice/
It just means you don’t understand all the bullshit that he write/Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”?
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14 Apr 2008 12:29 am
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Yep :-)

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14 Apr 2008 12:31 am
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KlNG JOHN wrote: FAGS

Exactly! ;-)

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KlNG JOHN wrote:
1indainfinite wrote:
KlNG JOHN wrote: FAGS

I know I am but what are you a boy who replaces care and stability with expensive shitshocked


Naw i have care, stability, and expensive shit

And weed you high mexican bastardgrin

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21 Apr 2008 08:19 am
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teacherJF wrote: Back in the 1930’s or 50’s, the average textbook only had two to three thousand words about evolution.It was not mentioned much.In 1963,it jumped up to 33,000 words;1963 is when prayer and Bible reading was taken out of the American school system.Anybody remember that?A few got out,brought evolution in,same time.1963 is when sexually transmitted diseases began to climb;this is 10 to 14 years of age.1963 is when divorce rates began to go up.I remember as a kid I did not know anybody that was divorced.Man,when you got married,you got married for life.You better pick slow,you are going to be stuck a long time.1963 is when violent crimes began to increase,you know there has been almost 1000% increase in violent crimes since '63?I am not old ,but i remeber the days when you did not have to lock your house.Anybody else remeber those days?You never took the keys out of the ignition,Man you might lose them,you left them in there all the time.That is the way it used to be right here in this contry.What happened?
We are teaching the kids they are an animal,there is no right and wrong now.What do u expect?Unwed birth rates for girls 10 to 14 years of age have increased 100%.The pregnancies are up 550%;most of them are being aborted-murdered.Things have changed.The SAT scores have dropped off since 1963 tremendously.A couple of years ago they had to “dumb down” the SAT tests.Now President Clinton is saying,“SAT scores are coming up!“Uh,thwy dumbed down the tests,sir.“Oh is that what happened?“Unmarried couples living together in adultery has increased 725.God’s word has not changed at all.“Whoremongers and adulterers,God will judge,“hebrews 13.Culture is falling apart.Teen suicide rate has increased dramatically.
And thats what evolution has done for America


Ok first, more and more data on evolution is being recorded the more needs to be learned, and you just stated all the bad things in the most religious christian country on the planet... ask yourself, why isnt, britain, australia, japan, new zealand, who also teach evolution not on the downfall, as this extremely religious america... I wonder if its the “religious” differences that are causing all these bad things to happen... not teaching our kids about contraception, not giving kids proper sex ed, having a stupid religious president setting policies for schools trying to get science thrown out and religion put in, etc etc.

Christians make up 75% of the U.S population. They also make up 75% of the prison population.

Atheists make up 10% of the U.S population, but only 0.2% of the prison population. Less than one percent.

Seems to me that the religious people of america are setting a pretty bad example.

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[Quote] #131
21 Apr 2008 09:52 am
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I am a nihilist, also known as “the belief in nothing."

My beliefs are of the Nihilist philosophy. A philosophy that suggests that emotion does not exist in ways, that conscious does not exist, but only instinct, and that God is not in existance. We pretty much believe that there is no right or wrong. There are no standard morals, law has made standard morals themselves. If it were not for the law, killing someone would not be a crime, and would not be considered immoral.


I think I am right for many reasons, in aspects of religion, politics, emotion, etc.

There is no proof for a God, so really, I find the idea of a limitless powered being quite silly, tbh. Also looking at our world, it helps show that either there is no God, or God is evil.

I believe in Nihilism emotionally because I find there is no such thing as emotion really. Animals do not have emotion. They run on instinct. This can be looked at the same way we are, considering we are animals as well. I believe in instinct. We feel sad, happy, hungry, tired, etc., because we need something, and that is our body telling our brain that so we can find something to quench our hunger for that specific need.

There are no standard morals. Who made them? The law did so there could be order and so the government would work properly. Imagine if there was no government. Killing someone would not be considered wrong. No one would care. That helps show that there are no morals in life on what is right and wrong, only what a government tells you is right or wrong.
I really, cannot explain nihilism well, so don’t rely on me to explain. It is a very complex idealogy.

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[Quote] #132
22 Jun 2008 12:26 am
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I’m an athiest.

I’m an athiest because I see religion as a primitive attempt at social engineering, and an attempt to explain the unexplainable.

Religion was once the one thing that separated civilised people from barbarians. Its goals are noble, but the concept itself is somewhat flawed in todays world.

I understand the main aim of most religions is to unify people, to instil the morals needed for society to function effectivly and correctly, and to dispel the strong fear so many people have of the unknown.

But now sadly religion fails me in so many aspects because:

-I can’t help but feel a sense of skeptisism towards alot of what I hear. Infact so much of what I’ve heard preached to me, of things I’ve heard of, and the way people try to explain what “god” is to me... I can’t help but compare it to wishful thinking.
-Religion rarely stops people from doing wrong. Many people who commit heinous crimes against other people are religous fanatics who justify their crimes for being “in the name of <god>" or they beleive that they beleive they’ll be able to redeem themselves eventually. Falls back onto my first point of me comparing this to wishful thinking.
-I can live with not knowing everything, and I can live knowing that I don’t know and can’t explain it all. What I can no longer live with however the idea that my beleif system and way of thinking is tailor’d to make me feel confortable instead of seeing what might possibly be the truth.

But at the same time I can’t ignore one of the most major issues that religion was trying to address. Morality. Morals, altruism.

Doing what is right, even if nobody else will, and even if it dosn’t enbetter you in any way. And I don’t mean whats “right” like in the way people judge you and say “good job” or “you did the right thing” while somebody else head is being put to an axeblade, or in the more modern society being strapped to an electric chair. I mean right as in not letting people die on the sidewalk infront of you, and not hurting other people just because somebody has a grip with them. Oh course you shouldn’t let people hurt other peoplem but I personally like to live and let live and beleive that this is one of the best fundamentals to live by.

I beleive that society and humanity as a whole would be much stronger if everybody was out to help everybody else, and not themself. And not because there might be a god that will fry your brains out if you don’t, or you might get to have sex with 40 virgins if you do the right thing.

This needs to be true altruism if it is to benifit humanity as a whole. This means we need to *scrap* the rewards system and just accept the fact when we die, thats it. We need to accept that we only have the time we are given, and we should be making the most of the time we have on this earth to help out our fellow man.

I also personally beleive that we need to accept that there is no great deity who going to fix the earth once we’ve completely used it up and destroyed it. Even if there is a god up there, what make you think he/she/it will just go and fix everything? Should a deity of such great power and beiuty be forced to clean up our planet? Isn’t that selfish? We can’t rely on supernatural forces to reverse the damage we as humans have caused. *We* as human beings must be the ones to put things back into their correct places.

If humanity truly wants too look forward to a future beyond the span of 20,000 years, we need to drop individuality like a an anvil on our foot. Instead of being the “bob” or the “ted” or the “cindy” that fight over who gets to eat the last freakin doughnut, we should be “human”. Instead of being christians and muslims and satanists, scientologist, hiduists, budhists, taoists, confousists... we should be “human”. Instead of being black, and white, and asian, indian, europian... we should be “human”. We’re all human, and we should stop killing eachother because some people are different from us, or because they think differently. Humanity would be so much stronger if everybody just helped everybody else without a need for, or desire for a reward.

Even though I’m an atheist, I beleive in acting for the greater good of all people. And I want everybody to be like me. But I also understand that this is impossible. It will never happen, and it would be wrong for me to demand everybody to change so abruptly or even at all. And that is okay.

Instead I act altruisticly and for the better of all people, except me. I do everything I can to help other people, and act with politness and tact. I don’t impose my views on other people. Instead, I just hope that someday more people will realise that if we as human beings don’t act eventually, our society will turn rotten to its very core, and so will the earth.

I beleive that there is no god, because the only “god” or “gods” I ever hear about are the gods that are all forgiving, who heal, and who will set everything right as long you do “good” (good being their will or bidding if your satanist) and beleive in them. Its something I could tag a “I wish” to the front of it.

Even if other atheists don’t agree with me (and they probably don’t, lulz) I beleive that being atheist and being purly altruistic is the only way people should spend their lives. But as I said, thats also an unreasonable excpectation. I gladly accept people beleive different than what I beleive, and I wont tell you your wrong to your face. I may frown when you pray for the man dying on the sidewalk instead of calling an ambulance, but I know you mean well and I’ll call the ambulance instead.

I understand most people mean well, and I can only hope humanity comes to a consencous eventually.

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24 Jun 2008 02:23 pm
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Gplex wrote:
teacherJF wrote: Back in the 1930’s or 50’s, the average textbook only had two to three thousand words about evolution.It was not mentioned much.In 1963,it jumped up to 33,000 words;1963 is when prayer and Bible reading was taken out of the American school system.Anybody remember that?A few got out,brought evolution in,same time.1963 is when sexually transmitted diseases began to climb;this is 10 to 14 years of age.1963 is when divorce rates began to go up.I remember as a kid I did not know anybody that was divorced.Man,when you got married,you got married for life.You better pick slow,you are going to be stuck a long time.1963 is when violent crimes began to increase,you know there has been almost 1000% increase in violent crimes since '63?I am not old ,but i remeber the days when you did not have to lock your house.Anybody else remeber those days?You never took the keys out of the ignition,Man you might lose them,you left them in there all the time.That is the way it used to be right here in this contry.What happened?
We are teaching the kids they are an animal,there is no right and wrong now.What do u expect?Unwed birth rates for girls 10 to 14 years of age have increased 100%.The pregnancies are up 550%;most of them are being aborted-murdered.Things have changed.The SAT scores have dropped off since 1963 tremendously.A couple of years ago they had to “dumb down” the SAT tests.Now President Clinton is saying,“SAT scores are coming up!“Uh,thwy dumbed down the tests,sir.“Oh is that what happened?“Unmarried couples living together in adultery has increased 725.God’s word has not changed at all.“Whoremongers and adulterers,God will judge,“hebrews 13.Culture is falling apart.Teen suicide rate has increased dramatically.
And thats what evolution has done for America


Ok first, more and more data on evolution is being recorded the more needs to be learned, and you just stated all the bad things in the most religious christian country on the planet... ask yourself, why isnt, britain, australia, japan, new zealand, who also teach evolution not on the downfall, as this extremely religious america... I wonder if its the “religious” differences that are causing all these bad things to happen... not teaching our kids about contraception, not giving kids proper sex ed, having a stupid religious president setting policies for schools trying to get science thrown out and religion put in, etc etc.

Christians make up 75% of the U.S population. They also make up 75% of the prison population.

Atheists make up 10% of the U.S population, but only 0.2% of the prison population. Less than one percent.

Seems to me that the religious people of america are setting a pretty bad example.


Actually most of the countrys u mentioned are on the downfall, in a similar fashion to america. Britain is only 20% Christian (as in actually going to mass, though a large proportion of christians have a quiet faith. However, in britain, the non-religious are more than 500% more likely to be criminal. This opposition to the way it is in america may be due to the more modern british christianity. Less than 2% of christians are creationist, not litterally following the bible, viewing it as a metphor, which seems to make it make much more sense

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24 Jun 2008 02:26 pm
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True_Athiest wrote: I’m an athiest.

I’m an athiest because I see religion as a primitive attempt at social engineering, and an attempt to explain the unexplainable.

Religion was once the one thing that separated civilised people from barbarians. Its goals are noble, but the concept itself is somewhat flawed in todays world.

I understand the main aim of most religions is to unify people, to instil the morals needed for society to function effectivly and correctly, and to dispel the strong fear so many people have of the unknown.

But now sadly religion fails me in so many aspects because:

-I can’t help but feel a sense of skeptisism towards alot of what I hear. Infact so much of what I’ve heard preached to me, of things I’ve heard of, and the way people try to explain what “god” is to me... I can’t help but compare it to wishful thinking.
-Religion rarely stops people from doing wrong. Many people who commit heinous crimes against other people are religous fanatics who justify their crimes for being “in the name of <god>" or they beleive that they beleive they’ll be able to redeem themselves eventually. Falls back onto my first point of me comparing this to wishful thinking.
-I can live with not knowing everything, and I can live knowing that I don’t know and can’t explain it all. What I can no longer live with however the idea that my beleif system and way of thinking is tailor’d to make me feel confortable instead of seeing what might possibly be the truth.

But at the same time I can’t ignore one of the most major issues that religion was trying to address. Morality. Morals, altruism.

Doing what is right, even if nobody else will, and even if it dosn’t enbetter you in any way. And I don’t mean whats “right” like in the way people judge you and say “good job” or “you did the right thing” while somebody else head is being put to an axeblade, or in the more modern society being strapped to an electric chair. I mean right as in not letting people die on the sidewalk infront of you, and not hurting other people just because somebody has a grip with them. Oh course you shouldn’t let people hurt other peoplem but I personally like to live and let live and beleive that this is one of the best fundamentals to live by.

I beleive that society and humanity as a whole would be much stronger if everybody was out to help everybody else, and not themself. And not because there might be a god that will fry your brains out if you don’t, or you might get to have sex with 40 virgins if you do the right thing.

This needs to be true altruism if it is to benifit humanity as a whole. This means we need to *scrap* the rewards system and just accept the fact when we die, thats it. We need to accept that we only have the time we are given, and we should be making the most of the time we have on this earth to help out our fellow man.

I also personally beleive that we need to accept that there is no great deity who going to fix the earth once we’ve completely used it up and destroyed it. Even if there is a god up there, what make you think he/she/it will just go and fix everything? Should a deity of such great power and beiuty be forced to clean up our planet? Isn’t that selfish? We can’t rely on supernatural forces to reverse the damage we as humans have caused. *We* as human beings must be the ones to put things back into their correct places.

If humanity truly wants too look forward to a future beyond the span of 20,000 years, we need to drop individuality like a an anvil on our foot. Instead of being the “bob” or the “ted” or the “cindy” that fight over who gets to eat the last freakin doughnut, we should be “human”. Instead of being christians and muslims and satanists, scientologist, hiduists, budhists, taoists, confousists... we should be “human”. Instead of being black, and white, and asian, indian, europian... we should be “human”. We’re all human, and we should stop killing eachother because some people are different from us, or because they think differently. Humanity would be so much stronger if everybody just helped everybody else without a need for, or desire for a reward.

Even though I’m an atheist, I beleive in acting for the greater good of all people. And I want everybody to be like me. But I also understand that this is impossible. It will never happen, and it would be wrong for me to demand everybody to change so abruptly or even at all. And that is okay.

Instead I act altruisticly and for the better of all people, except me. I do everything I can to help other people, and act with politness and tact. I don’t impose my views on other people. Instead, I just hope that someday more people will realise that if we as human beings don’t act eventually, our society will turn rotten to its very core, and so will the earth.

I beleive that there is no god, because the only “god” or “gods” I ever hear about are the gods that are all forgiving, who heal, and who will set everything right as long you do “good” (good being their will or bidding if your satanist) and beleive in them. Its something I could tag a “I wish” to the front of it.

Even if other atheists don’t agree with me (and they probably don’t, lulz) I beleive that being atheist and being purly altruistic is the only way people should spend their lives. But as I said, thats also an unreasonable excpectation. I gladly accept people beleive different than what I beleive, and I wont tell you your wrong to your face. I may frown when you pray for the man dying on the sidewalk instead of calling an ambulance, but I know you mean well and I’ll call the ambulance instead.

I understand most people mean well, and I can only hope humanity comes to a consencous eventually.



some atheists make themselves seem like such arrogant preaching ignorant twats...

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