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Atresac wrote:

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Atresac wrote: To name a few I’ve watched:

Dragonball
Dragonball Z
Naruto
Death Note
Pokemon
Inuyasha
Yuyu Hakusho
Tetchi Muyo I think it was called or something
Mezzo Forta
Mezzo DSA
A few others I don’t remember.



You’ve watched a lot of bad and mediocre anime. lol



Death Note I thought was pretty good. And if you ignore the sex parts the Mezzo series is also pretty well-done.



I was never one for cartoon porn... so I never tried Mezzo. Death Note is alright from what little I’ve seen.

I recommend the movies from Studio Ghibli. They’re prime examples of what anime should be and it’s some of the best in animation from anywhere.



I liked Mezzo Forte, even though the sex scenes were a bit wild. 0.o

But, damn, the thing was just a fun little action flick. Nothing more, nothing less. Good to pass the time.



Of the animes I have seen, Mezzo is definitely in the top. It was pretty dynamic and daring as far as anime goes. Lots of stuff going on at once and use of camera angles. Even the sex scenes were pretty well done.


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Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


how do u know im always a kid and am?do u know where i live?whats my number?so u cant say im a little kid?and see u do like anime and thats good.if u like 1 anime u mean its alright.and anime teaches morals
like freindship,teamwork,never give up,have courage,stand up 4 what u beleive in.so the anime is with sex scenes and violent scenes and they lead 2 a good moral(unlike most american tv shows)


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goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


how do u know im always a kid and am?do u know where i live?whats my number?so u cant say im a little kid?and see u do like anime and thats good.if u like 1 anime u mean its alright.and anime teaches morals
like freindship,teamwork,never give up,have courage,stand up 4 what u beleive in.so the anime is with sex scenes and violent scenes and they lead 2 a good moral(unlike most american tv shows)



I think he’s assuming your age from your lack of grammatical abilities...


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Atresac wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


if i do have bad grammar how come im makin an a plus in language arts(even though my teachers a bitch and i wont her to shut the hell up)and i am a bookworm and proud of it ive read all harry potter and eragon, maximum ride,alex rider sereis


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Atresac wrote:

I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.



Eh, its just too hard to define anime. For the most part, Japanese artists will do many similar things, but they aren’t bound by any style; this is primarily because, in Japan, they don’t define their animation much differently than our own. Its all defined in one word there, which is where westerners got the name anime from in the first place.

But I can see where you’re defining cartoons. If I wanted to have a semantics argument, I’d keep on going, but I’ll stop where I am. But as far as just sheer entertainment, I agree Tom and Jerry is one of the better cartoons out there, and I’d watch it over some of the anime that’s been coming out over the past few years. Really, you have to watch the older stuff anymore to really enjoy anime, because the new is either just okay or sucks. Haruhi Suzumiya is one of the few recent shows that really is just good. But I will disagree with you that Tom and Jerry’s animation quality is better than any anime, because I’ll pull the Akira or Studio Ghibli card on you. Then again, those were going for a different style than Tom and Jerry, so it boils down to apples and oranges.

I hate “what defines anime” debates, though, because on one end, you want to be able to define what anime is, but on the other you know its just used to define animation from Japan, for the most part, and it should stay that way for westerners because its easier. But I usually stick to the eyes, shading, and certain stylistic mannerisms if I want to use anime as a style for things such as Avatar.


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goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


if i do have bad grammar how come im makin an a plus in language arts(even though my teachers a bitch and i wont her to shut the hell up)and i am a bookworm and proud of it ive read all harry potter and eragon, maximum ride,alex rider sereis



You don’t capitalize where it’s needed, you don’t add in punctuations, and you use things like “u” instead of the actual word...


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RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.



Eh, its just too hard to define anime. For the most part, Japanese artists will do many similar things, but they aren’t bound by any style; this is primarily because, in Japan, they don’t define their animation much differently than our own. Its all defined in one word there, which is where westerners got the name anime from in the first place.

But I can see where you’re defining cartoons. If I wanted to have a semantics argument, I’d keep on going, but I’ll stop where I am. But as far as just sheer entertainment, I agree Tom and Jerry is one of the better cartoons out there, and I’d watch it over some of the anime that’s been coming out over the past few years. Really, you have to watch the older stuff anymore to really enjoy anime, because the new is either just okay or sucks. Haruhi Suzumiya is one of the few recent shows that really is just good. But I will disagree with you that Tom and Jerry’s animation quality is better than any anime, because I’ll pull the Akira or Studio Ghibli card on you. Then again, those were going for a different style than Tom and Jerry, so it boils down to apples and oranges.

I hate “what defines anime” debates, though, because on one end, you want to be able to define what anime is, but on the other you know its just used to define animation from Japan, for the most part, and it should stay that way for westerners because its easier. But I usually stick to the eyes, shading, and certain stylistic mannerisms if I want to use anime as a style for things such as Avatar.



Tom and Jerry was godly in terms of backgrounds:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_mJ4lc_Q9Q6k/Rt9VLcaQIjI/AAAAAAAAHcI/jSBnDHG0uiQ/s1600-h/TeeForTwo-1.jpg

http://bp0.blogger.com/_mJ4lc_Q9Q6k/Rt9VL8aQIkI/AAAAAAAAHcQ/itsiIeVG_M4/s1600-h/Tom+%26+Jerry-Mouse+In+Manhattan+010_0001.1.jpg


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Cid wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


if i do have bad grammar how come im makin an a plus in language arts(even though my teachers a bitch and i wont her to shut the hell up)and i am a bookworm and proud of it ive read all harry potter and eragon, maximum ride,alex rider sereis



You don’t capitalize where it’s needed, you don’t add in punctuations, and you use things like “u” instead of the actual word...


i dont use grammar outside of school.i only type like this on my pc.1 cause its easy and 2 takes less time.and i have tons of shortkeys.and its called “Internet” language


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Atresac wrote:

Tom and Jerry was godly in terms of backgrounds:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_mJ4lc_Q9Q6k/Rt9VLcaQIjI/AAAAAAAAHcI/jSBnDHG0uiQ/s1600-h/TeeForTwo-1.jpg

http://bp0.blogger.com/_mJ4lc_Q9Q6k/Rt9VL8aQIkI/AAAAAAAAHcQ/itsiIeVG_M4/s1600-h/Tom+%26+Jerry-Mouse+In+Manhattan+010_0001.1.jpg



I like Akira though:

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/akira0122.jpg

Man, I miss Tom and Jerry though...I need to watch some more Boomerang, if my mom didn’t hug the damn living room television.


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i dont use grammar outside of school.i only type like this on my pc.1 cause its easy and 2 takes less time.and i have tons of shortkeys.and its called “Internet” language



And on the Internet, just like in real life, no one will take you seriously intellectually because you make it hard to read and understand what you’re saying. Sure, that crap of an English comprehension you present is passable on video games, but does nothing for intelligent discussion.

And, yes, you are a kid because you still do language arts. I haven’t done a language arts class since middle school.


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goku1003 wrote:

Cid wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


if i do have bad grammar how come im makin an a plus in language arts(even though my teachers a bitch and i wont her to shut the hell up)and i am a bookworm and proud of it ive read all harry potter and eragon, maximum ride,alex rider sereis



You don’t capitalize where it’s needed, you don’t add in punctuations, and you use things like “u” instead of the actual word...


i dont use grammar outside of school.i only type like this on my pc.1 cause its easy and 2 takes less time.and i have tons of shortkeys.and its called “Internet” language



It still doesn’t stop you from looking like a complete idiot.


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Cid wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Cid wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

RageOverdose wrote:

Atresac wrote:

Saying something outshines Disney isn’t saying much. Despite Disney’s fame, their animation is pretty dull and has no real soul to it.

As for the TV series thing, I guess it’s not really necessary, but the most annoying thing is when people treat anime as actual cartoons, when they’re really not. Cartoons are, by definition, cartoony. Anime isn’t.

What also bugs me is how so many anime-fans I’ve debated with can’t seem to come up with a solid definition of anime. Some say it’s any animation that comes from Japan, yet there are many American cartoons that are produced in Japan because they’re cheaper. Some say it’s a style, but others argue about the “wide range” of anime styles. It just makes no sense to me. And then there are supposed “anime artists” on deviantart or whatever who aren’t japanese at all.

There may still be some animes that actually try to push the envelope, but those are far and in between (that’s not to say it’s any different for american cartoons though. Just about everything on Cartoon Network is shit).



Well, I was merely talking about FPS and deep the animations are. Akira is among the top in that respect. But, its definitely on a different level from any Disney film content-wise, primarily because the setting is rough and the plot is pretty dark.

And, anime is really just a Japanese cartoon. Yes, cartoon. Cartoons are defined by illustrations, or things resembling as such. Anime can really just be defined as a cartoon made in Japan (and by made in Japan, I don’t mean conceived in America, written by an Englishman, then moved to Asia for a Japanese studio to animate). As for styles, its usually pretty easy to identify an anime from something western based on how they shade or how they draw eyes. Of course, this varies and the gap can be really small. But, anime doesn’t define a style to most as it defines an origin. Those fans you talk to apparently are conflicting because they think anime is super-special, when it really isn’t, and they’re just not coming to terms with that. I love it, yes, but I see its flaws just as I do anything.

But yeah, animation in Japan is pretty much akin to how animation is in America nowadays (popular animation), except they go for broader audiences than just children. Its tired out. I love anime as a whole, but I only enjoy most animes to a certain degree. Of course, there’s also anime I want to burn with a big, flaming stick.



I’m going to ignore that goku kid for now because he has the linguistic skills of a dead rat.

Anyway, anime are cartoons, but not really in the sense that is associated with the term. I prefer actual cartoony cartoons (ie: Tom and Jerry). In fact, I think old Tom and Jerry beats just about anything anime or even Disney has put out in terms of animation quality and plain fun.

I was on a webcomic site and in the genre field, one of the options was “anime”. This confused me because I seriously doubted anyone on the site was from Japan, and was actually doing anything more than mimicking the style of their favorite anime. In the forums people would have really long debates on what defines anime and shit.


if i do have bad grammar how come im makin an a plus in language arts(even though my teachers a bitch and i wont her to shut the hell up)and i am a bookworm and proud of it ive read all harry potter and eragon, maximum ride,alex rider sereis



You don’t capitalize where it’s needed, you don’t add in punctuations, and you use things like “u” instead of the actual word...


i dont use grammar outside of school.i only type like this on my pc.1 cause its easy and 2 takes less time.and i have tons of shortkeys.and its called “Internet” language



It still doesn’t stop you from looking like a complete idiot.


i know but i just want my messages shorter so i can watch yu yu hakusho though im only past the dark tournament saga nd i love it


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goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote: Anime is just boring to watch for the most part. So much of it is just stock. I’ve watched a lot of anime where the most movement that takes place are camera pans and the occasional shift of position. Even the action scenes can be boring.

I prefer cartoons where I can actually mute the TV, but still enjoy watching it because of how silly and dynamic it is. Anime isn’t very daring in terms of its animation. The plots are good sometimes, but if that’s all there’s no reason for it to be an anime. It could just be a regular TV show.

In short: anime bores me and is too stock with its character designs.

its called suspense.anime like 2 use suspense alot and its worth the suspense cause u found out that it was worth waiting



....What? Suspense has nothing to do with no one ever moving. Especially in situations when there’s no suspense to build.

Actually, the greatest suspense is when there IS a lot of stuff going on. Take the movie “Alien” for example. There are a lot of times when people are moving around trying to do something, and you know the Alien is going to come soon... but you don’t know when.

That’s good suspense. I’ve never been held in suspense with anime.

its sort of like that in anime they stand their and u dont know when they are going 2 strike or what there gonna do
and fights in anime take months almost wich last longer than the moments in alien.


Long, pointless, drawn out conversation followed by a long, drawn out, pointless fight. Awesome.[/sarcasm]

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Totalitus wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote:

goku1003 wrote:

Atresac wrote: Anime is just boring to watch for the most part. So much of it is just stock. I’ve watched a lot of anime where the most movement that takes place are camera pans and the occasional shift of position. Even the action scenes can be boring.

I prefer cartoons where I can actually mute the TV, but still enjoy watching it because of how silly and dynamic it is. Anime isn’t very daring in terms of its animation. The plots are good sometimes, but if that’s all there’s no reason for it to be an anime. It could just be a regular TV show.

In short: anime bores me and is too stock with its character designs.

its called suspense.anime like 2 use suspense alot and its worth the suspense cause u found out that it was worth waiting



....What? Suspense has nothing to do with no one ever moving. Especially in situations when there’s no suspense to build.

Actually, the greatest suspense is when there IS a lot of stuff going on. Take the movie “Alien” for example. There are a lot of times when people are moving around trying to do something, and you know the Alien is going to come soon... but you don’t know when.

That’s good suspense. I’ve never been held in suspense with anime.

its sort of like that in anime they stand their and u dont know when they are going 2 strike or what there gonna do
and fights in anime take months almost wich last longer than the moments in alien.


Long, pointless, drawn out conversation followed by a long, drawn out, pointless fight. Awesome.[/sarcasm]

what makes the fight pointless?also watch this
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1901765


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