Leonidas. He’s a comic-book character, so his feats are naturally, unnatural. Maximus is a realistic fictional character, an amalgam of various actual historical figures. Leonidas held off 10,000 persians with only 300 Spartans, in a non-stop battle with no breaks. What does Max have on that? I do prefer Max, as a character, though.
Braise wrote:
Leonidas. He’s a comic-book character, so his feats are naturally, unnatural. Maximus is a realistic fictional character, an amalgam of various actual historical figures. Leonidas held off 10,000 persians with only 300 Spartans, in a non-stop battle with no breaks. What does Max have on that? I do prefer Max, as a character, though.
Leonidas is so ego bound that he refused to use the “dodge and strike” technique against someone who would trash him in a bench pressing contest (Hubris).
Leonidas didn’t care for the subtleties of combat, he thought that he could out muscle anyone. Hence why the Spartans didn’t wear armor or use archery.
Maximus did whatever worked, he adapted his skills to whatever happened.
They are both old and out of shape compared to Achilles (Troy) and Paul Atreides (Dune). A more fruitful battle would be that of younger, quicker, more combat prone fighters.
Braise wrote:
Leonidas. He’s a comic-book character, so his feats are naturally, unnatural. Maximus is a realistic fictional character, an amalgam of various actual historical figures. Leonidas held off 10,000 persians with only 300 Spartans, in a non-stop battle with no breaks. What does Max have on that? I do prefer Max, as a character, though.
Those were untrained conscript Persians against elite trained Spartans. They also had the advantage of terrain.
bonesboy08 wrote:
seriously leonidas was real and much more trained for that matter bigger in real life he was over 7 foot and xerxes was 9 feet tall look it up
bonesboy08 wrote:
i can’t find it now but i got it from a web site i found when 300 first come out
I’ve never heard anything about that. I’ve always been interested in Greek/Roman history, including the wars with Persia. And in all the books I’ve read, I’ve never seen anything about him being that big. And the pictures of him make him look regular size.
Braise wrote:
Leonidas. He’s a comic-book character, so his feats are naturally, unnatural. Maximus is a realistic fictional character, an amalgam of various actual historical figures. Leonidas held off 10,000 persians with only 300 Spartans, in a non-stop battle with no breaks. What does Max have on that? I do prefer Max, as a character, though.
leonidas was a real person was he not?
Yeah, and Xerxes was 9 foot tall transvestite who had minions with chainsaw hands, a legion of matching masked men, and African Zulu warriors who rode rhinos into battle. Sure. Frank Miller’s Leonidas never existed, except in comic books and fan drawings.
Braise wrote:
Leonidas. He’s a comic-book character, so his feats are naturally, unnatural. Maximus is a realistic fictional character, an amalgam of various actual historical figures. Leonidas held off 10,000 persians with only 300 Spartans, in a non-stop battle with no breaks. What does Max have on that? I do prefer Max, as a character, though.
leonidas was a real person was he not?
Yeah, and Xerxes was 9 foot tall transvestite who had minions with chainsaw hands, a legion of matching masked men, and African Zulu warriors who rode rhinos into battle. Sure. Frank Miller’s Leonidas never existed, except in comic books and fan drawings.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Leonidas is so ego bound that he refused to use the “dodge and strike” technique against someone who would trash him in a bench pressing contest (Hubris).
Leonidas didn’t care for the subtleties of combat, he thought that he could out muscle anyone. Hence why the Spartans didn’t wear armor or use archery.
Maximus did whatever worked, he adapted his skills to whatever happened.
They are both old and out of shape compared to Achilles (Troy) and Paul Atreides (Dune). A more fruitful battle would be that of younger,
quicker, more combat prone fighters.
LOL All of what you just said is bullshit. Especially about the part where they are both old and out of shape. Leo, who is old and out of shape apperantly fought for 3 days with only minor injuries....yea, he is very old and out of shape compared. Especially since he was able to keep up and even out last the younger once in his spartan army. /sarcasm
And you know it. Where is your proof of all that BS you just spewed? I don’t see any proof. The fact that Leo has been able to withstand armies and only get minor injuries as he was fighting for three days non stop tells us he has a perfectly good defense.
Put Maxi and his armies in that field and they ain’t gonna make it a day. How many do you think would die from those arrows blotting out the sun?
How many do you think will survive with those “magic” grandes? A dozen elephants? tens of thousands of powerful immortals who are best of the best swordsmen within Asia? Rhinos? hundreds of thousands of slaves looking for blood...
G-Lad wrote:
And leo had 300, that is not part of the argument.
leo was in the freezing cold by himself with nothing but pants and a sharp stick when he was 12 - 15 and still continues to walk around with no shirt on.
After being hit by 4 arrows he still stood up and his partner (can’t remember his name) was stabbed through the body by 3 swords and this was all the way through and stil took dow all three immortals which were called that because they were that good in combat.
Walking around with no shirt on now is just a weakness against Maximus.
And that was his partner, his partner whose son had died and was powered by rage.
Your point? His armor can still be pierced by Leo’s sword. If anything, Max loses mobility and speed with that on him. Leo, does not.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Leonidas is so ego bound that he refused to use the “dodge and strike” technique against someone who would trash him in a bench pressing contest (Hubris).
Leonidas didn’t care for the subtleties of combat, he thought that he could out muscle anyone. Hence why the Spartans didn’t wear armor or use archery.
Maximus did whatever worked, he adapted his skills to whatever happened.
They are both old and out of shape compared to Achilles (Troy) and Paul Atreides (Dune). A more fruitful battle would be that of younger,
quicker, more combat prone fighters.
LOL All of what you just said is bullshit. Especially about the part where they are both old and out of shape. Leo, who is old and out of shape apperantly fought for 3 days with only minor injuries....yea, he is very old and out of shape compared. Especially since he was able to keep up and even out last the younger once in his spartan army. /sarcasm
And you know it. Where is your proof of all that BS you just spewed? I don’t see any proof. The fact that Leo has been able to withstand armies and only get minor injuries as he was fighting for three days non stop tells us he has a perfectly good defense.
Put Maxi and his armies in that field and they ain’t gonna make it a day. How many do you think would die from those arrows blotting out the sun?
How many do you think will survive with those “magic” grandes? A dozen elephants? tens of thousands of powerful immortals who are best of the best swordsmen within Asia? Rhinos? hundreds of thousands of slaves looking for blood...
LOL Maxi and his army ain’t gonna last a day.
You are right, Max’s army isn’t the same caliber of Leonidas’s. But Max is more experienced in 1 on 1 fights since he was a gladiator.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
Leonidas is so ego bound that he refused to use the “dodge and strike” technique against someone who would trash him in a bench pressing contest (Hubris).
Leonidas didn’t care for the subtleties of combat, he thought that he could out muscle anyone. Hence why the Spartans didn’t wear armor or use archery.
Maximus did whatever worked, he adapted his skills to whatever happened.
They are both old and out of shape compared to Achilles (Troy) and Paul Atreides (Dune). A more fruitful battle would be that of younger,
quicker, more combat prone fighters.
LOL All of what you just said is bullshit. Especially about the part where they are both old and out of shape. Leo, who is old and out of shape apperantly fought for 3 days with only minor injuries....yea, he is very old and out of shape compared. Especially since he was able to keep up and even out last the younger once in his spartan army. /sarcasm
Oh he was EXTREMELY fit for his age. But when you’re that old you JUST can’t compete with monsters like Achilles.
And you know it. Where is your proof of all that BS you just spewed? I don’t see any proof. The fact that Leo has been able to withstand armies and only get minor injuries as he was fighting for three days non stop tells us he has a perfectly good defense.
He had the Phalanx and he couldn’t be surrounded, but once he could, he was slaughtered.
Put Maxi and his armies in that field and they ain’t gonna make it a day. How many do you think would die from those arrows blotting out the sun? How many do you think will survive with those “magic” grandes? A dozen elephants? tens of thousands of powerful immortals who are best of the best swordsmen within Asia? Rhinos? hundreds of thousands of slaves looking for blood...
LOL Maxi and his army ain’t gonna last a day.
The Roman Army would slaughter that army of a million Persians in a few weeks without the aid of the Hot Gates.
They had superior armor, catapults, superior weapons, more powerful arrows, larger shields, a Phalanx like Leonidas, ditches, traps and finally a better General.
And in a one on one fight, Maximus would slaughter Leonidas if he had his shield, his sword, and his body armor.
He killed a young and skilled warrior with a hole in his lung.
Oh lord no. Maximus would destroy. I assume that you are meaning 1 v 1 and in that case Maximus would win. Maximus had the advantage of fighting in the coliseum so he has the advantage of a 1 v 1 match. King Leonidas is used to a front in which a partners shield would protect him aswell. In 1 v 1 Leo has no chance. And to top it off he has no armor, one false move and he is done right there.....
SILVERXXX wrote:
Oh lord no. Maximus would destroy. I assume that you are meaning 1 v 1 and in that case Maximus would win. Maximus had the advantage of fighting in the coliseum so he has the advantage of a 1 v 1 match. King Leonidas is used to a front in which a partners shield would protect him aswell. In 1 v 1 Leo has no chance. And to top it off he has no armor, one false move and he is done right there.....
Used to it? You know that is bullshit. He NEEDED to use that because he and his army is facing against a over a million. Scattered and they wil fall because they don’t have as good defense. Have you watched them fight one on one?
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