thanos420 wrote:
pointing at the moon and it’s gone, show me this joke please. no more logic of this one’s stronger than that one so he can do what that one did and more, yet never showed a blast capable of this. again, human bones and muscle vs more dense muscle and bones. if that’s the case, he should be destroying planets with ease, since he’s stronger than sayin saga vegita, who did it with 2 fingers,lmao. everyone forgets, the enemies always have more power then the heroes, teamwork saves the day in the end in dbz.
Vegeta never destroyed a planet. However Frieza has.
And people forget, the villain of the past saga is usually weaker by a good margin than the lower tier Z warriors.
Unless it was Anime exclusive didn’t Vegetable breath blow up that bug world?
thanos420 wrote:
pointing at the moon and it’s gone, show me this joke please. no more logic of this one’s stronger than that one so he can do what that one did and more, yet never showed a blast capable of this. again, human bones and muscle vs more dense muscle and bones. if that’s the case, he should be destroying planets with ease, since he’s stronger than sayin saga vegita, who did it with 2 fingers,lmao. everyone forgets, the enemies always have more power then the heroes, teamwork saves the day in the end in dbz.
Vegeta never destroyed a planet. However Frieza has.
And people forget, the villain of the past saga is usually weaker by a good margin than the lower tier Z warriors.
unless i’m mixing anime with mangas, him and nappa stop on the way to earth, and he 2 finger blasted either a large moon, or planet. it’s true on some points, maybe early ssj saga, but freeza at 100% was still stronger than any version of krillin, even the cheap fake powerlevels show this. he is a human, their levels don’t jump nearly as high as the other fighters in the z series. that’s what people forget, humans are the absolute weakest characters in dbz. krillin is 1 of the strongest humans, but even the manga description says, he becomes cannon fodder whenever matched against, piccolo, freeza, cell, or the ssj’s. anything non human usually owns him up.
Despite his reputation as being a weakling compared to his Saiyan comrades, he is considered to be one of the stronger pure-blooded humans in the Dragon Ball series, being thousands of times stronger than the average person (although this is largely due to the fact that he was afforded much greater opportunities to increase his strength, such as training under the Guardian of the Earth and having his potential unlocked by Guru, things that no other human, such as Mr. Satan, ever had). Although he is not as strong as Goku or Gohan, his determination in helping his friends is a key asset. Furthermore, Krillin’s ingenuity and talent for Ki-manipulation is far superior than that of most warriors, even those stronger than himself, and he has an ability to sense hidden powers. Krillin had his dormant Ki awakened by the Namek Elder during the events of Frieza(although it is possible that not all of his power was freed, due to the fact that Gohan still have more hidden power and that they both grew to be much stronger), and this helped keep him among the same level as his more naturally powerful friends, at least for a little while. Krillin has trained hard most of his life, becoming extremely powerful and proving it in combat with many foes. Unfortunately, he is quickly outclassed by many of the other characters in the series, such as Piccolo and the Saiyans; though among all the full-blooded humans he faces in combat he is one of the strongest.
Volume 11
Piccolo - 2,800,000
Genki Dama - 8,000,000
thanos420 wrote:
pointing at the moon and it’s gone, show me this joke please. no more logic of this one’s stronger than that one so he can do what that one did and more, yet never showed a blast capable of this. again, human bones and muscle vs more dense muscle and bones. if that’s the case, he should be destroying planets with ease, since he’s stronger than sayin saga vegita, who did it with 2 fingers,lmao. everyone forgets, the enemies always have more power then the heroes, teamwork saves the day in the end in dbz.
Vegeta never destroyed a planet. However Frieza has.
And people forget, the villain of the past saga is usually weaker by a good margin than the lower tier Z warriors.
Unless it was Anime exclusive didn’t Vegetable breath blow up that bug world?
Yeah, in the anime. lol. He was also surviving in space. Dragonball is a walking inconsistancy. Even more so in the anime.
thanos420 wrote:
pointing at the moon and it’s gone, show me this joke please. no more logic of this one’s stronger than that one so he can do what that one did and more, yet never showed a blast capable of this. again, human bones and muscle vs more dense muscle and bones. if that’s the case, he should be destroying planets with ease, since he’s stronger than sayin saga vegita, who did it with 2 fingers,lmao. everyone forgets, the enemies always have more power then the heroes, teamwork saves the day in the end in dbz.
Vegeta never destroyed a planet. However Frieza has.
And people forget, the villain of the past saga is usually weaker by a good margin than the lower tier Z warriors.
unless i’m mixing anime with mangs, him and nappa stop on the way to earth, and he 2 finger blasted either a large moon, or planet. it’s true on some points, maybe early ssj saga, but freeza at 100% was still stronger than any version of krillin, even the cheap fake powerlevels show this. he is a human, their levels don’t jump nearly as high as the other fighters in the z series. that’s what people forget, humans are the absolute weakest characters in dbz. krillin is 1 of the strongest humans, but even the manga description says, he becomes cannon fodder whenever matched against, piccolo, freeza, cell, or the ssj’s. anything non human usually owns him up.
Despite his reputation as being a weakling compared to his Saiyan comrades, he is considered to be one of the stronger pure-blooded humans in the Dragon Ball series, being thousands of times stronger than the average person (although this is largely due to the fact that he was afforded much greater opportunities to increase his strength, such as training under the Guardian of the Earth and having his potential unlocked by Guru, things that no other human, such as Mr. Satan, ever had). Although he is not as strong as Goku or Gohan, his determination in helping his friends is a key asset. Furthermore, Krillin’s ingenuity and talent for Ki-manipulation is far superior than that of most warriors, even those stronger than himself, and he has an ability to sense hidden powers. Krillin had his dormant Ki awakened by the Namek Elder during the events of Frieza(although it is possible that not all of his power was freed, due to the fact that Gohan still have more hidden power and that they both grew to be much stronger), and this helped keep him among the same level as his more naturally powerful friends, at least for a little while. Krillin has trained hard most of his life, becoming extremely powerful and proving it in combat with many foes. Unfortunately, he is quickly outclassed by many of the other characters in the series, such as Piccolo and the Saiyans; though among all the full-blooded humans he faces in combat he is one of the strongest.
Volume 11
Piccolo - 2,800,000
Genki Dama - 8,000,000
thanos420 wrote:
pointing at the moon and it’s gone, show me this joke please. no more logic of this one’s stronger than that one so he can do what that one did and more, yet never showed a blast capable of this. again, human bones and muscle vs more dense muscle and bones. if that’s the case, he should be destroying planets with ease, since he’s stronger than sayin saga vegita, who did it with 2 fingers,lmao. everyone forgets, the enemies always have more power then the heroes, teamwork saves the day in the end in dbz.
Vegeta never destroyed a planet. However Frieza has.
And people forget, the villain of the past saga is usually weaker by a good margin than the lower tier Z warriors.
Unless it was Anime exclusive didn’t Vegetable breath blow up that bug world?
Yeah, in the anime. lol. He was also surviving in space. Dragonball is a walking inconsistancy. Even more so in the anime.
Well as much as a joke as this is going to seem, 18 did not get phased really by Vegeta, and Krillin mated with 18. For some reason I don’t think 18 would stay with Krillin if he couldn’t please her. If you know what I mean...
Yajirobe - 200
Yamcha - 232
after training - 1,530
Krillen (after training) - 1,650
Tien - 280
after training - 1,810
Chao-Tzu (after training) - 1,230
Gohan - 1,400
Masenko (enraged) - 2,800
oozaru - 14,000
Piccolo - 2,500
Saibamen - 1200 each
Nappa - 4,000
Goku - 5,000
powered up - 9,000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 + kamehameha - 36,000
Vegeta - 18,000
Gallick Gun - 30,000
oozaru - 180,000
Explanation - Most of the PL’s listed above were mentioned in DBZ. But some people argue over Goku’s powered up state, whether its 8,000 or 9,000. Well, since Vegeta states that it’s “OVER NINE THOUSANDDD!", I think my listing is pretty accurate. When a saiyan transforms into an oozaru his power increases 10x, and Goku obviously couldn’t overpower Vegeta’s Gallick Gun at 3x Kaioken, making Vegeta’s attack having to be at least what I have stated.
Frieza Saga
Frieza’s Henchmen - 1,500 each
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 20,000
Zarbon - 22,000
transformed - 30,000
Gohan - 2,700
after Guru - 24,000
Krillen - 2,350
after Guru - 19,000
Vegeta - 24,000
after Zarbon battle - 35,000
Namekian Warriors - 800 to 7,500
Guldo - 23,000
Recoome - 55,000
Burter - 70,000
Jeice - 75,000
Ginyu - 90,000
max - 120,000
in Goku - 23,000
Vegeta (powered up vs. Recoome) - 45,000
after Recoome battle - 135,000
after Ginyu battle - 405,000
Goku - 90,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Gohan (after Senzu) - 46,000
Krillen (after senzu) - 24,000
Nail - 42,000
Frieza - 530,000
2nd form - 970,000
3rd form - 1,250,000
final form - 1,500,000
50% - 7,500,000
100% - 15,000,000
battle worn - 11,000,000
Krillen - 28,500
Gohan - 52,000
1st enraged - 830,000
after Dende’s heal - 206,000
2nd enraged (Masenko) - 1,200,000
3rd enraged - 2,500,000
Vegeta (full power) - 510,000
after Dende’s heal - 1,320,000
after revival - 1,750,000
Piccolo - 860,000
w/o weighted clothing - 1,050,000
after Dende’s heal - 1,100,000
Goku - 300,000
Kaioken x5 - 1,500,000 (used naturally throughout early Frieza fight)
Kaioken x10 - 3,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 6,000,000
Spirit Bomb - 10,000,000
Super Saiyan - 15,000,000
even someone who made up their own levels, don’t have goku at that bs you said, please.
ALL LEVELS AFTER THIS POINT ARE A GUESS!
In the mangas, Japanese series, and Daizenshuus, Toriyama NEVER listed or authorized any power levels after the Frieza Saga, as he felt they limited his ability to be flexible and creative with the outcome of battles. The following Power Levels are mearly a guess on my part. They are never listed in any of the series, manga or daizenshuu.
funny, the second site said this, but its not close huh, well since you have it, show me.
Explanation - Most of the PL’s listed above were mentioned in DBZ. But some people argue over Goku’s powered up state, whether its 8,000 or 9,000. Well, since Vegeta states that it’s “OVER NINE THOUSANDDD!", I think my listing is pretty accurate. When a saiyan transforms into an oozaru his power increases 10x, and Goku obviously couldn’t overpower Vegeta’s Gallick Gun at 3x Kaioken, making Vegeta’s attack having to be at least what I have stated.
This is why Adam’s listings shouldn’t be trusted. He said 8000 in the manga. Adam doesn’t know what the hell he is talking about. Sorry Dezenshuu still is OFFICIALLY published. These powerlevels FAIL.
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