Aizen + Espada VS Sephiroth + Remnants of Sephiroth + Bahamut SIN

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

You’re probably right, but right now it’s just really vague of a power.

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

You’re probably right, but right now it’s just really vague of a power.

Well can’t common sense kick in?! It says life energy, it’s clearly referring to JUST FFVII. Can you not agree with me that it is a no limits fallacy to claim Sephiroth can rip out all forms of life energy? Lol, cmon', it’s totally a no limits fallacy.

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

You’re probably right, but right now it’s just really vague of a power.

Never know, it could be just that Black and White. We may never know also as it is vague

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Tea, you’re later for it

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

You’re probably right, but right now it’s just really vague of a power.

Well can’t common sense kick in?! It says life energy, it’s clearly referring to JUST FFVII. Can you not agree with me that it is a no limits fallacy to claim Sephiroth can rip out all forms of life energy? Lol, cmon', it’s totally a no limits fallacy.

No, it would be a no limits fallacy for me to so say he could rip put all forms of energy though.
Though, it could be borderline. But see we don’t know the limits of said power at all. It could take longer to drain people with higher levels of power however.

Sephiroth just walking in to DBZ and draining everyone’s Ki is different than it actually effecting Ki. One is how much he can use it, the other is what it effects.
So far as I know, he can’t drain an entire universe in that fashion. There are also the chances of it being blocked by some method, dodged, etc.
It’s like me saying “I have a gun so I can insta-kill everyone in the world." Well, if some guy hides behind a bullet proof shield, then I really can’t. Or if I get shot first, or run out of ammunition, on and on. It may be a powerful tool, but it’s not a win-all item.
It effects life energy/souls, so it effects living beings. Now if one starts getting other things in the way of it...

And, honestly, isn’t there something about neutral universes when it comes to debates to make things proper and avoid this kind of confusing stuff? Like, Bleach characters being visible and tangible, powers working in other universes when it’s never said they could work in other universes (which, commonly, is a lot of things), that kind of thing.

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

You’re probably right, but right now it’s just really vague of a power.

Well can’t common sense kick in?! It says life energy, it’s clearly referring to JUST FFVII. Can you not agree with me that it is a no limits fallacy to claim Sephiroth can rip out all forms of life energy? Lol, cmon', it’s totally a no limits fallacy.

No, it would be a no limits fallacy for me to so say he could rip put all forms of energy though.
Though, it could be borderline. But see we don’t know the limits of said power at all. It could take longer to drain people with higher levels of power however.

Yes, okay, it would take him ALOT longer. That’s the kick back. If he is going to try and drain, say, Broly, it’ll take him like....hours. Broly would be able to just blast him away in the time it takes for him to drain.

NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

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Chaos Theory wrote: Again I’ll reiterate. Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. It’s a form of Energy. There is a difference.

Life Energy is what everything in FFVII is made up of. Of course Power Cosmic isn’t a form of life energy. Neither is Ki, Chakra, or Rikei. Life Energy is something that exists within the world of FFVII. Life Energy is what EVERYTHING in FFVII is made up of, hence the reason that “Negative Lifestream” works against people in FFVII. They have “Life energy”.

Actually ki is life energy.

Ki is Ki. Life Energy is something that exists on its own in FFVII. Sephiroth cannot rip out Ki, Chakra, Power Cosmic, etc. Just Life Energy.

Actually lifestream is supposed to be spiritual energy too. Considering what happens in the game. Lifestream “guides the flow of worlds” as Sephiroth says in the japanese version of AC.

Okay, what does this have to do with Sephiroth ripping out Ki, Chakra, Rikei, etc?

Ki is based off Qi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi#Definition
It’s actually life energy.
Chakra has been considered the same thing before
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Definitions

Okay, what is everything and one made up of in FFVII? Life Energy, correct? When people die they return to the lifestream, right? NLS rips out the life energy of its victims, ok. Ki=/=FFVIIs life energy, Rikei=/=FFVII’s life energy, Chakra=/= FFVII’s life energy. You can’t say that Sephiroth can rip out all these energies just because he can do it in the world of FFVII. That is a no limits fallacy. That’s just ridiculous.

Eh, it would never ACTUALLY happen since Sephiroth hardly ever goes all out on anyone.

Though, it isn’t a no limits fallacy because I said it only works on life energy. Something that Furiyoku,Power Cosmic,etc are not.

It is very much a no limits fallacy. It said life energy, referring specifically to FFVII. It didn’t say “All forms of life energy”. Not all life energy is the same. Ki and Chakra are very different. As is FFVII’s life energy and Rikei in Bleach. It’s as no limits as it comes, surely you must understand that much. You cannot honestly be telling me that you believe Sephiroth could waltz right into DBZ and just rip out everyone’s ki. Cmon' that’s just broken.

Well, Sephiroth isn’t fast enough to do that, but, that’s just it. Lifestream is broken and it has not been given said limits. We will probably have to wait until the last games to figure out more about it.

But...I mean...*sigh*
I know it’s more complex than that, I know he can’t just rip out ALL forms of life energy. They don’t all operate in the same way. That’s just...
You guys must be leaving something out, I guess I’ll just have to see it for myself. I KNOW it can’t be that black and white.

You’re probably right, but right now it’s just really vague of a power.

Well can’t common sense kick in?! It says life energy, it’s clearly referring to JUST FFVII. Can you not agree with me that it is a no limits fallacy to claim Sephiroth can rip out all forms of life energy? Lol, cmon', it’s totally a no limits fallacy.

No, it would be a no limits fallacy for me to so say he could rip put all forms of energy though.
Though, it could be borderline. But see we don’t know the limits of said power at all. It could take longer to drain people with higher levels of power however.

Yes, okay, it would take him ALOT longer. That’s the kick back. If he is going to try and drain, say, Broly, it’ll take him like....hours. Broly would be able to just blast him away in the time it takes for him to drain.

Yeah, more than likely. It drains humans instantly though. I honestly could never see Sephiroth in the DB world AT ALL, unless it’s during early to mid Dragonball part 1.

Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

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Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

True I suppose, but we also can say people can resist it if they resisted things such as that before.

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

Unless you can prove said Kick Backs its a moot accusation

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Tea, you’re later for it

Chaos Theory wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

Unless you can prove said Kick Backs its a moot accusation

I’d say NLS is broken, though it does seem to take awhile to corrupt the entire lifestream.

Then again that could be because it’s the same substance and it is like a venom of a snake so to speak in the planet.

Indalecio wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

Unless you can prove said Kick Backs its a moot accusation

I’d say NLS is broken, though it does seem to take awhile to corrupt the entire lifestream.

Then again that could be because it’s the same substance and it is like a venom of a snake so to speak in the planet.

NLS is just Tainted LS. It’s not like it’s trying to rip itself out, but I know what ya mean

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Tea, you’re later for it

Chaos Theory wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

Unless you can prove said Kick Backs its a moot accusation

Because there is no proof that it should even affect different forms of life energy, it’s a no limits fallacy. There needs to be limits set on this move, otherwise there’s no point in having Sephiroth in versus debates.

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Indalecio wrote:

GodHandTheWorld wrote:

Chaos Theory wrote: NLS doesn’t drain. It rips the life out

Yeah well, if we are gonna pair it against different verses, there are gonna be some kick backs. Otherwise just, fuck. For example, a being of stronger power would be able to resist their souls from being sucked out. How do I know? Sephiroth has never tried to use it against anyone on his level. Since it is so vague it could be used to his disadvantage as well.

True I suppose, but we also can say people can resist it if they resisted things such as that before.

Yeah, you could, if you wanted to just be like, LOL FUCK YOU, to all other anime. Cmon' you HAVE to place limits on this, since it is so fucking vague.