Batman VS Daredevil

Okay fine but I want to ask you Ragnar, why do you keep bringing up Spiderman into this thread. You don’t provide solid facts on how Daredevil could beat Batman, you just say
“Daredevil has gone toe to toe with Spider-Man”?!?!?!!!!!!!

And that’s it, that is not good enough for me, I need more than just that

Codie Forrexter wrote: Okay fine but I want to ask you Ragnar, why do you keep bringing up Spiderman into this thread. You don’t provide solid facts on how Daredevil could beat Batman, you just say
“Daredevil has gone toe to toe with Spider-Man”?!?!?!!!!!!!

And that’s it, that is not good enough for me, I need more than just that

Well I’m sorry for bringing it up but I have my reasons Codie. You see, Daredevil has fought Spidey on many occassions (more than Batman) and at one point defeated him (Spidey).

Now understand something Codie, when I say Daredevil vs Spider-Man, it’s not for show. Notice
the “vs”, that means fight, fight, fight!!!!! Now when D-D fights Spidey, he does things that not too many Marvel heroes do, dodge fists from Spider-Man. Now what does it take to dodge an attack from Spider-Man? Or let alone be able to land a hit on Spidey?

Many Marvel heroes/villians get irratated when they fight Spidey because he doesn’t stand in one place when he fights. Try hitting a fly, you’ll know what I mean. Daredevil has been one of those few people who can hit Spiderman (and let alone dodge his attacks). Batman can’t do that, he can’t
hit Spidey and let alone dodge his attacks. Daredevil can, and all these fights take place (can you imagine) in “Spidey’s playground”-buildings!!!

Daredevil in of the comics where he fought Spidey was able to defeat Spidey, in hand to hand combat.
Batman can’t do that, look what happened when he faced Spidey in their “first match” in the DC/Marvel team-up presents Batman vs Spider-Man.

So I’m sure Codie (by now) you should understand why I’m bringing Spidey into the picture. If Daredevil is fast enough to dodge an attack from Spidey and let alone hit one of Marvel’s greatest dodger then what match is Batman going to be? Daredevil should “easly” dodge an attack from Batman if he can dodge one from Spider-Man. And to
top this off, Daredevil can use the same technique
he used to defeat Spider-Man on Batman.

What’s all the commotion?

what technique is that?
if he cant hit him batman would think of something else . . who cares if dd beat spiderman , hes soooo overrated gah!!!! fanboys make such a big deal about spider hes such a gimp ... and spiderman only beat batman the first time round because its a lame cross over and he was unprepared for spidermans raw physical abilites . . .batman came back and beat him in the 2nd fight anyway. . .and batman has beaten people who are much much more powerful then spiderman through skill and using what he has on him and his surroundings. . .and anyway you cant win a fight just by dodging , daredevil does not have superhuman power , just peak human level same as batman if perhaps dd is more acrobatic and agile while batman’s raw strength would be greater ,and batman is the more skillful hand to hand fighter , in a toe to toe fight daredevil is not going to have the ingenuity to counter whatever stratagems batman will come up with if he finds the fight going in dd’s favour , batman will come up with a drastically different approach and change things until he wins. dd is definitely at a disadvantage against someone like batman

truestrength wrote: what technique is that?
if he cant hit him batman would think of something else . . who cares if dd beat spiderman , hes soooo overrated gah!!!! fanboys make such a big deal about spider hes such a gimp ... and spiderman only beat batman the first time round because its a lame cross over and he was unprepared for spidermans raw physical abilites . . .batman came back and beat him in the 2nd fight anyway. . .and batman has beaten people who are much much more powerful then spiderman through skill and using what he has on him and his surroundings. . .and anyway you cant win a fight just by dodging , daredevil does not have superhuman power , just peak human level same as batman if perhaps dd is more acrobatic and agile while batman’s raw strength would be greater ,and batman is the more skillful hand to hand fighter , in a toe to toe fight daredevil is not going to have the ingenuity to counter whatever stratagems batman will come up with if he finds the fight going in dd’s favour , batman will come up with a drastically different approach and change things until he wins. dd is definitely at a disadvantage against someone like batman

It’s simple truestrength02, if Daredevil can beat Spider-Man then obvoiusly he can beat Batman. I mean come on now, just compare Spidey and Bats, theres totally a big gap between the two.

Batman my man only beats Daredevil with preparation and gadgets, without that Daredevil wins this match!!!!

truestrength wrote: what technique is that?
if he cant hit him batman would think of something else . . who cares if dd beat spiderman , hes soooo overrated gah!!!! fanboys make such a big deal about spider hes such a gimp ... and spiderman only beat batman the first time round because its a lame cross over and he was unprepared for spidermans raw physical abilites . . .batman came back and beat him in the 2nd fight anyway. . .and batman has beaten people who are much much more powerful then spiderman through skill and using what he has on

him and his surroundings. . .and anyway you cant win a fight just by dodging , daredevil does not have superhuman power , just peak human level same as batman if perhaps dd is more acrobatic and agile while batman’s raw strength would be greater ,and batman is the more skillful hand to hand fighter , in a toe to toe fight daredevil is not going to have the ingenuity to counter whatever stratagems batman will come up with if he finds the fight going in dd’s favour , batman will come up with a drastically different approach and change things until he wins. dd is definitely at a disadvantage against someone like batman

Don’t worry truestrength, leave Ragnar to me. This
is one showdown that’s gonna rock this thread!!!!!

just because the round peg fits in the round hole doesnt mean the square one does too . . .they have both beat spiderman and once again i say that batman has faced much tougher people then d d and spiderman and won . . .you havent given any reason as to why dare devil was able to beat spiderman either , and dd vs batman is a much more even fight then against spider as they are both normal humans . . . dd is fast agile acrobatic and has his awesome senses and is a capable hand to hand fighter. batman however is much stronger then dare devil unless you can come up with some proof otherwise , as batman in his first year as the bat was capable of kicking trees in half and punching through bricks and snapping handcuff links . . and he is also a far more skillful fighter , hes a master of dozens of fighting forms while dd is highly proficient in only a couple.how exactly IS dd going to beat batman?i know you said he can dodge but that wont win you a fight and he cant do it forever . . . he is not gonna be able to out fight batman toe to toe . . .your highly over estimating DD’s physical abilities and underestimating batmans , you make it sound as if he only wins fights through using special gadgets and nothing else.

truestrength wrote: just because the round peg fits in the round hole doesnt mean the square one does too . . .they have both beat spiderman and once again i say that batman has faced much tougher people then d d and spiderman and won . . .you havent given any reason as to why dare devil was able to beat spiderman either , and dd vs batman is a much more even fight then against spider as they are both normal humans . . . dd is fast agile acrobatic and has his awesome senses and is a capable hand to hand fighter. batman however is much stronger then dare devil unless you can come up with some proof otherwise , as batman in his first year as the bat was capable of kicking trees in half and punching through bricks and snapping handcuff links . . and he is also a far more skillful fighter , hes a master of dozens of fighting forms while dd is highly proficient in only a couple.how exactly IS dd going to beat batman?i know you said he can dodge but that wont win you a fight and he cant do it forever . . . he is not gonna be able to out fight batman toe to toe . . .your highly over estimating DD’s physical abilities and underestimating batmans , you make it sound as if he only wins fights through using special gadgets and nothing else.

I’m actually going to nod my head and prentend your first/second sentence actually makes sense, anyway. I know Batman is a better skilled fighter than Daredevil, I never said he wasn’t, but if a fight took place were both heroes go at it without
using weapons then Daredevil should win this match!!!! BATMAN only wins this if he uses his weapons, that’s one of the reasons why he beats PEOPLE WHO ARE FOR MORE SUPERIER THAN HIM!!!!!!!!!

Look at the part where Batman defeats Marvel heroes such as The Incredible Hulk, Spider-Man and
Captian America!?! He defeated them because he used his brains and gadgets, he defeated the Hulk by throwing gas (nitrogen i think) and when the Hulk couldn’t breath, he (Batman) kicked him in the mid-section knocking the Hulk out!!!!

He beat Captian America by throwing a batarang that sliced Cap on the skull, also knocking him out!!! And he also beat Spider-Man becuase he used
some form of sleeping gas (a similar technique the
Green Goblin used in the movie of Spider-Man) and knocked out Spidey with a batarang.

Imagine if Batman did not have gadgets if he went against one of these heroes, he “surley” would not
be the last man standing!!!

Well, I have to admit, he has a point

yes he needs weapons to fight superpowered people , but i dont see why he should need any for dare devil ( id still like to know how DD beat spiderman btw ) both DD and BM are peak human beings without any super powers , if thats the case then surely batman holds the advantage as the stronger and more skilled martial artist?! unless your saying that dare devil is superhuman. you still have yet to provide some reasoning for dare devil being capable of defeating batman. batman is stronger and the better fighter ,so once again i ask . . .how will dare devil win the fight?

um... Batman’s gadgets is pretty much what makes him Batman... Even the outfit he wears doubles as armor and also increases his strength to a small degree (that actually qualifies as a weapon). What you are asking for is Matt Murdock vs Bruce Wayne... not Dare Devil vs Batman.

This is like throwing Pyro into a fight without allowing his weapons...

Even so , batman is more then capable of fighting opponents unequipped , even without gadgets he’d still be impressive , tools simply make him better , batman is a person who looks for every possible edge and does everything to win , hence all his gadgets. In pure hand to hand combat he should still be perfectly capable of beating matt murdock

Ryo Ketchum wrote: Well, I have to admit, he has a point

No I agree Ryo he is right, but theres just one thing-DAREDEVIL IS NOT LIKE THE HULK, CAPTIAN AMERICA AND SPIDER-MAN!!!!!!

You seem to forget Ragnar, all these Marvel heroes
Batman defeated have one thing over Daredevil, they are all stronger than Daredevil!!!! That can explian why Batman uses his gadgets against them, you do realize Batman can’t get into a fist fight with these Marvel heroes because they are more stronger than Batman?!! It wouldn’t be a good idea
to get into a brawl with someone with “super human
strength” becuase it’s just plain suicide.

Daredevil does not have super human strength, so Batman doesn’t need his gadgets against Daredevil.
I repeat again, Batman can invent many “deadly” moves that are dangerous to the human body, if Batman could pull that, he will defeat Daredevil!!

the reason dare devil would have a hard time is batman’s anticipation and ability to read his opponent , batman is always thinking a number of steps ahead , every move he makes is calculated and planned , and all movement is made for a reason. while daredevils senses and reflexs allow him to react super fast so as to dodge , batman dodges because hes already figured out how his opponent will attack and plans ahead for it . . .daredevil reacts , batman anticipates , besides for his extraordinary senses and reflexes DD has no other advantages in this fight , in a hand to hand fight against someone who is a master of so many martial arts as batman and who can think so far ahead , DD is clearly at a disadvantage here. Im not saying it would be a cake walk for bats under any circumstances , but i believe that DD is the underdog in this.

Codie Forrexter wrote:

Ryo Ketchum wrote: Well, I have to admit, he has a point

No I agree Ryo he is right, but theres just one thing-DAREDEVIL IS NOT LIKE THE HULK, CAPTIAN AMERICA AND SPIDER-MAN!!!!!!

You seem to forget Ragnar, all these Marvel heroes
Batman defeated have one thing over Daredevil, they are all stronger than Daredevil!!!! That can explian why Batman uses his gadgets against them, you do realize Batman can’t get into a fist fight with these Marvel heroes because they are more stronger than Batman?!! It wouldn’t be a good idea
to get into a brawl with someone with “super human
strength” becuase it’s just plain suicide.

Daredevil does not have super human strength, so Batman doesn’t need his gadgets against Daredevil.
I repeat again, Batman can invent many “deadly” moves that are dangerous to the human body, if Batman could pull that, he will defeat Daredevil!!

But he (Batman) has to be fast enough to land a hit on Daredevil which then runs back to what I said in my previuse posts. If Daredevil can dodge punches from a mutant that can move 15 times faster a normal human, then what’s going to be hard to dodge an attack “from a human” which is Batman? By the way, that mutant I refered to earlier is Spider-Man.

yes but as i said before u cant win a fight just by dodging ,and you cant do that forever , batman doesnt necessarily have to be faster then DD to hit him , its all about timing , and to win the fight eventually DD will have to move in close enough to land a hit himself , if batman couldnt hit his opponent then he’d likely wait for his opponent to come to him and would be waiting.and anyway if it really came down to it , it may be possible batman could hide himself away from DD and just sneak attack him . . if he can hide from martin manhunter he should be able to hide from DD

truestrength wrote: yes but as i said before u cant win a fight just by dodging ,and you cant do that forever , batman doesnt necessarily have to be faster then DD to hit him , its all about timing , and to win the fight eventually DD will have to move in close enough to land a hit himself , if batman couldnt hit his opponent then he’d likely wait for his opponent to come to him and would be waiting.and anyway if it really came down to it , it may be possible batman could hide himself away from DD and just sneak attack him . . if he can hide from martin manhunter he should be able to hide from DD

They did this already

did they? then this should be done and dusted then , batman takes this due to the enormous difference in skill and tactical knowledge between batman and dd

truestrength wrote: did they? then this should be done and dusted then , batman takes this due to the enormous difference in skill and tactical knowledge between batman and dd

Yes they did in Wizard Entertianment presents Daredevil vs Batman.

Guess who won the match? Daredevil

how exactly?

Here’s how the fight would go...

The fight would start with batman not being able to land a single blow on daredevil all the while being pummeled by him. Batman would be knocked down or temporarily get far enough away to reevaluate everything he has learned in the fight and figure out how daredevil is able to dodge everything he does.

Then the battle will recommence with batman applying this new knowledge possibly working the environment against Daredevil and using different possibly more confusing techniques to throw DD off. Batman would then proceed to pwn the living hell out of DareDevil.