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[Quote] #81
17 Oct 2009 11:51 am
Guile Grinder
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Goku Yenna Yishima wrote: So your going to ignore the math formula speed difference between the two?



Which one?


[Quote] #82
26 Oct 2009 09:01 am
Goku Yenna Yishima
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Argh....this:

Somewhere in the VS-forum thread someone said that
Spidey could run 100 miles per hour while Cap fastest
speed feat is to run at 40 miles per hour.

As you can see, clearly and mathimatically (oh, mind the spelling), Spidey outruns Cap on a 60 mile base.

100 km (Spidey) - 40 km (Cap)= 60

Clearly Guile you can see this

[Quote] #83
27 Oct 2009 12:28 pm
Guile Grinder
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Goku Yenna Yishima wrote: Argh....this:

Somewhere in the VS-forum thread someone said that
Spidey could run 100 miles per hour while Cap fastest
speed feat is to run at 40 miles per hour.

As you can see, clearly and mathimatically (oh, mind the spelling), Spidey outruns Cap on a 60 mile base.

100 km (Spidey) - 40 km (Cap)= 60

Clearly Guile you can see this



Hey, relax man, I’m not doubting you. Yes, I can clearly see Spidey is faster than Cap, but I’m not
talking about who is faster here, I’m talking about who win in a race.

And this race isn’t you your typically athlete race we see now and again, it’s a race that Superman and the Flash participate in. Yes, it’s a
race around the world. And as I’ve have said, Spidey will be at an advantage since he is faster than Cap.

BUUUUUUT, he has to take a break now and then. And
in this race, there are no breaks. Cap, on the other hand doesn’t need to take breaks since he can’t get tired. Obviously, he will catch up with an exhausted Spidey (who at some point has to get tired) and out run him in a race.

Now, let me ask you this. Who would in a race?
Could you beat someone in a race who can’t get tired or worn out?

[Quote] #84
27 Oct 2009 03:02 pm
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If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.


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[Quote] #85
28 Oct 2009 10:02 am
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Khorib wrote: If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.



That’s just the thing, there are no breaks. Aha, Spidey at some point has to take break because despite his speed, he can get tired tired. Cap on the other hand can’t and there are no breaks in this race.

Eventually, Spidey’s sprint will come down to jogging, then to walking because he will tired eventually. Damn, I forgot about this thingy of Cap having to use eat and use the bathroom etc thingy, damn, now this changes the task. But doesn’t Spider-Man himself have to use the loo or eat something as well? I’ve seen the Flash (Wally West) eat and drink snacks while still racing against Superman from people watching the race.

But anyway, let’s leave that out. If the two were to race and no breaks were given, then Spidey will
be at a disadvantage since he can get tired and Captain America can’t.

The examples you provided above, I’d give in if Spider-Man were to be racing Batman, but not Captain America.

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28 Oct 2009 12:05 pm
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Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote: If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.



That’s just the thing, there are no breaks. Aha, Spidey at some point has to take break because despite his speed, he can get tired tired. Cap on the other hand can’t and there are no breaks in this race.

Eventually, Spidey’s sprint will come down to jogging, then to walking because he will tired eventually. Damn, I forgot about this thingy of Cap having to use eat and use the bathroom etc thingy, damn, now this changes the task. But doesn’t Spider-Man himself have to use the loo or eat something as well? I’ve seen the Flash (Wally West) eat and drink snacks while still racing against Superman from people watching the race.

But anyway, let’s leave that out. If the two were to race and no breaks were given, then Spidey will
be at a disadvantage since he can get tired and Captain America can’t.

The examples you provided above, I’d give in if Spider-Man were to be racing Batman, but not Captain America.


I don’t get it, what do you mean “no breaks”? As in, if one of them stops moving, then the race is over? Seems like an unfair advantage givin to Captain America with his unlimited endurance. And of course Spiderman has to eat and use the bathroom as well, I don’t think it should be counted out. The point is that because of Spiderman’s speed, 5 minute food and bathroom breaks for Spiderman don’t effect the outcome of the race as much as Captain America’s breaks... this is all due to the vast speed difference.

But as for right now... lets define what a break is, because it sounds like you are saying that once spiderman runs himself to sleep, he loses the race...


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[Quote] #87
31 Oct 2009 11:36 am
Guile Grinder
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Khorib wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote: If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.



That’s just the thing, there are no breaks. Aha, Spidey at some point has to take break because despite his speed, he can get tired tired. Cap on the other hand can’t and there are no breaks in this race.

Eventually, Spidey’s sprint will come down to jogging, then to walking because he will tired eventually. Damn, I forgot about this thingy of Cap having to use eat and use the bathroom etc thingy, damn, now this changes the task. But doesn’t Spider-Man himself have to use the loo or eat something as well? I’ve seen the Flash (Wally West) eat and drink snacks while still racing against Superman from people watching the race.

But anyway, let’s leave that out. If the two were to race and no breaks were given, then Spidey will
be at a disadvantage since he can get tired and Captain America can’t.

The examples you provided above, I’d give in if Spider-Man were to be racing Batman, but not Captain America.


I don’t get it, what do you mean “no breaks”? As in, if one of them stops moving, then the race is over? Seems like an unfair advantage givin to Captain America with his unlimited endurance. And of course Spiderman has to eat and use the bathroom as well, I don’t think it should be counted out. The point is that because of Spiderman’s speed, 5 minute food and bathroom breaks for Spiderman don’t effect the outcome of the race as much as Captain America’s breaks... this is all due to the vast speed difference.

But as for right now... lets define what a break is, because it sounds like you are saying that once spiderman runs himself to sleep, he loses the race...



No, I never said that, I’m just saying that this race is like the one that Superman and the Flash usually participate in. Take this race like the Superman and the Flash one, I mean when I read their comics, the two don’t take a break (usually the Clark Kent and Wally West race).

That’s how the race between Spidey and Cap is, that’s what I mean by no breaks.

[Quote] #88
01 Nov 2009 11:57 am
Borris 4rom Violent Storm
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AWH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These two will never make it then if that’s the race your talking about!!!

[Quote] #89
02 Nov 2009 08:04 am
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Borris 4rom Violent Storm wrote: AWH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These two will never make it then if that’s the race your talking about!!!



If the two were to race around the world, I’m reckoning it will take them a whole year to get to the finish line.

lol

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02 Nov 2009 09:22 am
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Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote: If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.



That’s just the thing, there are no breaks. Aha, Spidey at some point has to take break because despite his speed, he can get tired tired. Cap on the other hand can’t and there are no breaks in this race.

Eventually, Spidey’s sprint will come down to jogging, then to walking because he will tired eventually. Damn, I forgot about this thingy of Cap having to use eat and use the bathroom etc thingy, damn, now this changes the task. But doesn’t Spider-Man himself have to use the loo or eat something as well? I’ve seen the Flash (Wally West) eat and drink snacks while still racing against Superman from people watching the race.

But anyway, let’s leave that out. If the two were to race and no breaks were given, then Spidey will
be at a disadvantage since he can get tired and Captain America can’t.

The examples you provided above, I’d give in if Spider-Man were to be racing Batman, but not Captain America.


I don’t get it, what do you mean “no breaks”? As in, if one of them stops moving, then the race is over? Seems like an unfair advantage givin to Captain America with his unlimited endurance. And of course Spiderman has to eat and use the bathroom as well, I don’t think it should be counted out. The point is that because of Spiderman’s speed, 5 minute food and bathroom breaks for Spiderman don’t effect the outcome of the race as much as Captain America’s breaks... this is all due to the vast speed difference.

But as for right now... lets define what a break is, because it sounds like you are saying that once spiderman runs himself to sleep, he loses the race...



No, I never said that, I’m just saying that this race is like the one that Superman and the Flash usually participate in. Take this race like the Superman and the Flash one, I mean when I read their comics, the two don’t take a break (usually the Clark Kent and Wally West race).

That’s how the race between Spidey and Cap is, that’s what I mean by no breaks.


Well that’s also Flash and Superman, who don’t need to take breaks and can finish the race in a relatively short time...

Spiderman will have to take a break if he is racing around the world. If he is allowed to stop and rest, then I suggest using my above formula to figure out who the probably winner is.

How long can Spiderman maintain his pace at top speed before he needs to rest?


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[Quote] #91
03 Nov 2009 07:18 am
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Khorib wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote: If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.



That’s just the thing, there are no breaks. Aha, Spidey at some point has to take break because despite his speed, he can get tired tired. Cap on the other hand can’t and there are no breaks in this race.

Eventually, Spidey’s sprint will come down to jogging, then to walking because he will tired eventually. Damn, I forgot about this thingy of Cap having to use eat and use the bathroom etc thingy, damn, now this changes the task. But doesn’t Spider-Man himself have to use the loo or eat something as well? I’ve seen the Flash (Wally West) eat and drink snacks while still racing against Superman from people watching the race.

But anyway, let’s leave that out. If the two were to race and no breaks were given, then Spidey will
be at a disadvantage since he can get tired and Captain America can’t.

The examples you provided above, I’d give in if Spider-Man were to be racing Batman, but not Captain America.


I don’t get it, what do you mean “no breaks”? As in, if one of them stops moving, then the race is over? Seems like an unfair advantage givin to Captain America with his unlimited endurance. And of course Spiderman has to eat and use the bathroom as well, I don’t think it should be counted out. The point is that because of Spiderman’s speed, 5 minute food and bathroom breaks for Spiderman don’t effect the outcome of the race as much as Captain America’s breaks... this is all due to the vast speed difference.

But as for right now... lets define what a break is, because it sounds like you are saying that once spiderman runs himself to sleep, he loses the race...



No, I never said that, I’m just saying that this race is like the one that Superman and the Flash usually participate in. Take this race like the Superman and the Flash one, I mean when I read their comics, the two don’t take a break (usually the Clark Kent and Wally West race).

That’s how the race between Spidey and Cap is, that’s what I mean by no breaks.


Well that’s also Flash and Superman, who don’t need to take breaks and can finish the race in a relatively short time...

Spiderman will have to take a break if he is racing around the world. If he is allowed to stop and rest, then I suggest using my above formula to figure out who the probably winner is.

How long can Spiderman maintain his pace at top speed before he needs to rest?



Maybe I went overboard there saying the two can’t take a break, their not Superman or the Flash (since there is no need for them to take breaks).

Anyway, I still say Cap has a edge over this. Yes,
Spidey is indeed faster than Cap, but remember, Spidey tires quickly after short sprints. As smart
as Cap is, he won’t sprint like Spidey would, he will take his time.

Eventually Cap will catch up with a sprinting Spidey who won’t be sprinting anymore due to tireness, Cap will “over take” him and beat him.
You see, the important factor that gives Cap the advantage is the fact that he can “never get tired”. While Spidey is going to take a break due to getting tired, Cap won’t and he’ll be outrunning Spidey in his tracks.

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04 Nov 2009 09:45 am
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Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote:

Khorib wrote: If SpiderMan took 1.5 hour breaks for every hour he ran, he would keep even pace with Captain America (according to the above calulations)

And for every hour more he ran, his available rest time would double. Therefore, if he ran for 3 hours straight, he could rest for 4.5 hours. If he ran 8 hours, he would get to rest for 12 hours, etc...

I think this an important factor to keep in mind in terms of Captain catching up to him.

Another thing is, Captain may be tireless, but he still has to eat, drink and use the bathroom, just like Spiderman, but Captain America’s breaks to find food etc, even if it only take him a few minutes, stack against him much more than Spiderman due to their drastic speed difference.

If Captain America takes twelve 5 min breaks during the full length of the race, that puts spiderman 100 miles (or km) ahead of him.



That’s just the thing, there are no breaks. Aha, Spidey at some point has to take break because despite his speed, he can get tired tired. Cap on the other hand can’t and there are no breaks in this race.

Eventually, Spidey’s sprint will come down to jogging, then to walking because he will tired eventually. Damn, I forgot about this thingy of Cap having to use eat and use the bathroom etc thingy, damn, now this changes the task. But doesn’t Spider-Man himself have to use the loo or eat something as well? I’ve seen the Flash (Wally West) eat and drink snacks while still racing against Superman from people watching the race.

But anyway, let’s leave that out. If the two were to race and no breaks were given, then Spidey will
be at a disadvantage since he can get tired and Captain America can’t.

The examples you provided above, I’d give in if Spider-Man were to be racing Batman, but not Captain America.


I don’t get it, what do you mean “no breaks”? As in, if one of them stops moving, then the race is over? Seems like an unfair advantage givin to Captain America with his unlimited endurance. And of course Spiderman has to eat and use the bathroom as well, I don’t think it should be counted out. The point is that because of Spiderman’s speed, 5 minute food and bathroom breaks for Spiderman don’t effect the outcome of the race as much as Captain America’s breaks... this is all due to the vast speed difference.

But as for right now... lets define what a break is, because it sounds like you are saying that once spiderman runs himself to sleep, he loses the race...



No, I never said that, I’m just saying that this race is like the one that Superman and the Flash usually participate in. Take this race like the Superman and the Flash one, I mean when I read their comics, the two don’t take a break (usually the Clark Kent and Wally West race).

That’s how the race between Spidey and Cap is, that’s what I mean by no breaks.


Well that’s also Flash and Superman, who don’t need to take breaks and can finish the race in a relatively short time...

Spiderman will have to take a break if he is racing around the world. If he is allowed to stop and rest, then I suggest using my above formula to figure out who the probably winner is.

How long can Spiderman maintain his pace at top speed before he needs to rest?



Maybe I went overboard there saying the two can’t take a break, their not Superman or the Flash (since there is no need for them to take breaks).

Anyway, I still say Cap has a edge over this. Yes,
Spidey is indeed faster than Cap, but remember, Spidey tires quickly after short sprints. As smart
as Cap is, he won’t sprint like Spidey would, he will take his time.

Eventually Cap will catch up with a sprinting Spidey who won’t be sprinting anymore due to tireness, Cap will “over take” him and beat him.
You see, the important factor that gives Cap the advantage is the fact that he can “never get tired”. While Spidey is going to take a break due to getting tired, Cap won’t and he’ll be outrunning Spidey in his tracks.


Again, this all comes down to what length of time Spiderman can sprint. Is there a way to determine that?


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