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[Quote] #61
21 Nov 2008 01:45 am
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Captain America is here wrote: I agree, Captain America should win.



My brother said he saw a comic (online) on the Internet were Wolverine fought Captian America and in that comic,Wolverine won.


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24 Nov 2008 08:30 pm
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its not a what if comic. what gave you that idea?


Enemy of the State is “What if” comic. But even there Wolverine killed Cap. Later I will show you the scan, though it is non canon, doesn’t count.


yes and no. enemy of the state is a canon storyline. but it does have a what if version. in the what if version, wolverine is still a bad guy. in the canon story wolverine was defeated.


In “What If” Kitty stopped Logan.
In canon version Logan fights alot and only then Captain arrives to fight him. And keep in mind that Logan was controlled, he fought in that comic just like a fury beast, he didn’t use his brain and fighting skills. So basicly it was tired mindless Wolverine vs Captain America in good state.


tired? wolverine can fight omega red while being exposed to his death spores without negative effects for hours dude. stamina is not a subject for wolvie. dude, just because hes controlled doesnt mean hes not fighting at his best. thats like saying wolverine is a mindless fighting machine when he was a horseman of the apocalypse. not only that but a “mindless beast” doesnt mean a push over in comabt, sabertooth is a mindless beast but he constatly gets the better of wolverine.

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24 Nov 2008 08:54 pm
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Guile Grinder wrote:

Goku Yenna Yishima wrote: Captian America is stronger,faster and possibly more durable,but if Wolverine managed to cut him with his claws,
we would have another Marvel presents the Death of Captian America.



The Marvel site scan stated that Wolverine is more advanced in terms of martial arts and skills
than Captian America,but the problem here is that
in most comics Logan hardly uses his hand to hand
combat skills,he just basically violently stabs and cuts. It’s like as if Wolverine is acting like the Incredible Hulk but the only difference is, instead of Hulk smash-it’s Wolverine cuts!!!!

Notice this guys in the X-Men movies and the animated series of the X-Men.


funny thing about the marvel site is that they say that wolverines speed is on level 7. while quick silvers speed is only at level 6. strange huh?

oh and wolvie doesnt cut anyone in the movies or in the animated series because the writers know there are children watching these shows. not a good idea to show gore when half your audiences are in gradeschool.

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25 Nov 2008 01:56 am
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Yeah good point

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26 Nov 2008 03:25 am
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Guile Grinder wrote: Yeah good point



Well Captian America isn’t that much stronger than Wolverine,he can be strong to an extent as a
human can be....more or less a body builder. Remember he doesn’t have super strength, he has....well I don’t know what Marvel calls it.....but Cap’s strength may be to that of Kingpin’s or WWE (rather ECW) superstar Mark Henry.

Speed
Well Guile the speed does come in handy in Cap’s favour here,he has dodged a shot gun at close point (imagine that) and has dodged blows from what most people would say is Marvel’s greatest dodger-Spiderman. So if Cap could dodge Spidey’s blows then what makes him not to dodge much more slower Wolverine’s blows-or rather claws?

Durability
Well I’d say Wolverine is at an advantage since he can heal from any kind of damage (depends).
I don’t think Cap’s punches are going to be that much of an effect since Wolverine has taken blows
from Spider-Man (who by the way is stronger than Captian America).

Outcome
The outcome of this battle is Wolverine winning this match,he can heal from any damage caused to him and Cap can’t. Wolverine on top of that has his claws and if they did connect with Captian America,they could seriously wound or even kill him. Also don’t forget that Wolverine has “senses”,he could smell Cap a mile away if Cap tried to sneak up on him. So guys this my version on why Wolverine would win but hey I could be wrong,if you want to prove me wrong go ahead,maybe theres something I could be missing.

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Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote: Yeah good point



Well Captian America isn’t that much stronger than Wolverine,he can be strong to an extent as a
human can be....more or less a body builder. Remember he doesn’t have super strength, he has....well I don’t know what Marvel calls it.....but Cap’s strength may be to that of Kingpin’s or WWE (rather ECW) superstar Mark Henry.

Speed
Well Guile the speed does come in handy in Cap’s favour here,he has dodged a shot gun at close point (imagine that) and has dodged blows from what most people would say is Marvel’s greatest dodger-Spiderman. So if Cap could dodge Spidey’s blows then what makes him not to dodge much more slower Wolverine’s blows-or rather claws?

Durability
Well I’d say Wolverine is at an advantage since he can heal from any kind of damage (depends).
I don’t think Cap’s punches are going to be that much of an effect since Wolverine has taken blows
from Spider-Man (who by the way is stronger than Captian America).

Outcome
The outcome of this battle is Wolverine winning this match,he can heal from any damage caused to him and Cap can’t. Wolverine on top of that has his claws and if they did connect with Captian America,they could seriously wound or even kill him. Also don’t forget that Wolverine has “senses”,he could smell Cap a mile away if Cap tried to sneak up on him. So guys this my version on why Wolverine would win but hey I could be wrong,if you want to prove me wrong go ahead,maybe theres something I could be missing.


well, i guess you missed the scans showing captain america dealing pain on onslaught. he made onslaught bleed man. another thing i think you missed is the scan that shows cap punching wrecker or bulldozer with one punch. which is understandble since the scan doesnt work, lol. but the point is cap isnt as weak as you think.

next, cap has been shot multiple times and has taken no damage. even without his uniform. so cap isnt as frail as you think.

but yeah, wolverines healing ability is a problem. even though cap already koed wolvie with a shield bash to the head.


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27 Nov 2008 03:03 am
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No no no no no friend don’t get me wrong,I know Cap is one tough dude and I 've seen him perform remarkable things that even outclass Wolverine. At one time I saw him punch Spider-Man on the face (no not in the Civil War issue) resulting on Spidey being “dizzy” and I meant that litterly, I don’t think Wolverine could do that Spidey.

Which is why I already said that Cap outclasses Wolvie in speed and strength, Captian America can dodge bullets (almost similar to Spider-Man) but Wolverine can’t.

It’s just I see Wolverine winning here more than Cap,if he could cut or connect those claws to Cap somehow it would be
the end of Cap. I’m just trying to find out on how Captian America could beat Wolverine since Wolverine has a healing factor and to my surprise, I can’t find any solution on how
Cap would beat Wolverine. If Spider-Man couldn’t beat Wolverine in the Spider-Man vs Wolverine issue, then I don’t think Captian America would beat Wolverine.

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Ragnar Fortiscue wrote: No no no no no friend don’t get me wrong,I know Cap is one tough dude and I 've seen him perform remarkable things that even outclass Wolverine. At one time I saw him punch Spider-Man on the face (no not in the Civil War issue) resulting on Spidey being “dizzy” and I meant that litterly, I don’t think Wolverine could do that Spidey.

Which is why I already said that Cap outclasses Wolvie in speed and strength, Captian America can dodge bullets (almost similar to Spider-Man) but Wolverine can’t.

It’s just I see Wolverine winning here more than Cap,if he could cut or connect those claws to Cap somehow it would be
the end of Cap. I’m just trying to find out on how Captian America could beat Wolverine since Wolverine has a healing factor and to my surprise, I can’t find any solution on how
Cap would beat Wolverine. If Spider-Man couldn’t beat Wolverine in the Spider-Man vs Wolverine issue, then I don’t think Captian America would beat Wolverine.


ok, uhmmm you saw the scan i posted that shows cap hurting onslaught right? if cap can deal that much damage to a character as powerful as him then wolverine can be hurt badly by cap.

yes, cap would have a hard time fighting wolvie but as we both know cap is no slouch in fighting. so wolverine will have a hard time hitting cap.


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28 Nov 2008 01:13 am
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Yeah,so your outcome of this battle is Captian America winning this battle right?

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Ragnar Fortiscue wrote: Yeah,so your outcome of this battle is Captian America winning this battle right?


what.. comic book logan would wipe the floor with cap..

cap and wolverine are about the same in terms of fighting skills, but wolverine can take alot of punishment.

When logan was brain wash and sent after the hulk (no this choice this time), he almost killed him until he manage to take back control, but the big thing about this, is the amount of damage he took.

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Healing factor that lets him take a beating from the hulk, unbreakable bones and claws, make logan too much for cap.


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is that wolverine as the horseman of death? he sure is powerful! i hope you know that wolvie was given a power boost because of that.


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friendly bastard wrote:

Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote: Yeah good point



Well Captian America isn’t that much stronger than Wolverine,he can be strong to an extent as a
human can be....more or less a body builder. Remember he doesn’t have super strength, he has....well I don’t know what Marvel calls it.....but Cap’s strength may be to that of Kingpin’s or WWE (rather ECW) superstar Mark Henry.

Speed
Well Guile the speed does come in handy in Cap’s favour here,he has dodged a shot gun at close point (imagine that) and has dodged blows from what most people would say is Marvel’s greatest dodger-Spiderman. So if Cap could dodge Spidey’s blows then what makes him not to dodge much more slower Wolverine’s blows-or rather claws?

Durability
Well I’d say Wolverine is at an advantage since he can heal from any kind of damage (depends).
I don’t think Cap’s punches are going to be that much of an effect since Wolverine has taken blows
from Spider-Man (who by the way is stronger than Captian America).

Outcome
The outcome of this battle is Wolverine winning this match,he can heal from any damage caused to him and Cap can’t. Wolverine on top of that has his claws and if they did connect with Captian America,they could seriously wound or even kill him. Also don’t forget that Wolverine has “senses”,he could smell Cap a mile away if Cap tried to sneak up on him. So guys this my version on why Wolverine would win but hey I could be wrong,if you want to prove me wrong go ahead,maybe theres something I could be missing.


well, i guess you missed the scans showing captain america dealing pain on onslaught. he made onslaught bleed man. another thing i think you missed is the scan that shows cap punching wrecker or bulldozer with one punch. which is understandble since the scan doesnt work, lol. but the point is cap isnt as weak as you think.

next, cap has been shot multiple times and has taken no damage. even without his uniform. so cap isnt as frail as you think.

but yeah, wolverines healing ability is a problem. even though cap already koed wolvie with a shield bash to the head.


he hurt onslauht because of his sheild, I would like to see the scan and comic book name/number of him taking a shot gun to the chest with no damage. Doesnt matter any way, logans claws are made of the same stuff as caps shield, 1 swipe and caps lost a limb, as for the sheild to the head, wont work on logan, cos his skull is made of the same stuff, and any damage to his brain will be quickly repaired.


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friendly bastard wrote: is that wolverine as the horseman of death? he sure is powerful! i hope you know that wolvie was given a power boost because of that.


the only power he got was his unbreakable bones back.


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Gplex wrote:

friendly bastard wrote: is that wolverine as the horseman of death? he sure is powerful! i hope you know that wolvie was given a power boost because of that.


the only power he got was his unbreakable bones back.


uhhh dude, when apocalypse hired/kidnapped someone to be his leutenant, he makes them stronger. think of warren wothington III.


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Gplex wrote:

friendly bastard wrote:

Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:

Guile Grinder wrote: Yeah good point



Well Captian America isn’t that much stronger than Wolverine,he can be strong to an extent as a
human can be....more or less a body builder. Remember he doesn’t have super strength, he has....well I don’t know what Marvel calls it.....but Cap’s strength may be to that of Kingpin’s or WWE (rather ECW) superstar Mark Henry.

Speed
Well Guile the speed does come in handy in Cap’s favour here,he has dodged a shot gun at close point (imagine that) and has dodged blows from what most people would say is Marvel’s greatest dodger-Spiderman. So if Cap could dodge Spidey’s blows then what makes him not to dodge much more slower Wolverine’s blows-or rather claws?

Durability
Well I’d say Wolverine is at an advantage since he can heal from any kind of damage (depends).
I don’t think Cap’s punches are going to be that much of an effect since Wolverine has taken blows
from Spider-Man (who by the way is stronger than Captian America).

Outcome
The outcome of this battle is Wolverine winning this match,he can heal from any damage caused to him and Cap can’t. Wolverine on top of that has his claws and if they did connect with Captian America,they could seriously wound or even kill him. Also don’t forget that Wolverine has “senses”,he could smell Cap a mile away if Cap tried to sneak up on him. So guys this my version on why Wolverine would win but hey I could be wrong,if you want to prove me wrong go ahead,maybe theres something I could be missing.


well, i guess you missed the scans showing captain america dealing pain on onslaught. he made onslaught bleed man. another thing i think you missed is the scan that shows cap punching wrecker or bulldozer with one punch. which is understandble since the scan doesnt work, lol. but the point is cap isnt as weak as you think.

next, cap has been shot multiple times and has taken no damage. even without his uniform. so cap isnt as frail as you think.

but yeah, wolverines healing ability is a problem. even though cap already koed wolvie with a shield bash to the head.


he hurt onslauht because of his sheild, I would like to see the scan and comic book name/number of him taking a shot gun to the chest with no damage. Doesnt matter any way, logans claws are made of the same stuff as caps shield, 1 swipe and caps lost a limb, as for the sheild to the head, wont work on logan, cos his skull is made of the same stuff, and any damage to his brain will be quickly repaired.


uhhh, ok, i think this adamantium skeleton is being pushed to the limit here. this is an endoskeleton. not an exoskeleton. the only thing those metal bones can protect is his skeleton. so stop saying wolvie cant be stop because he has adamantium skeleton. his skin, organs, etc can still be badly injured.

and this is funny, its like cap cant block wolvies attack. cap wont block wolvies claws with his hands. his not stupid. he can block the claws with his shield, or grab wolvies wrists so the claws wont touch him. cap is not helpless even if he doesnt have his shield.


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friendly bastard wrote:

Gplex wrote:

friendly bastard wrote: is that wolverine as the horseman of death? he sure is powerful! i hope you know that wolvie was given a power boost because of that.


the only power he got was his unbreakable bones back.


uhhh dude, when apocalypse hired/kidnapped someone to be his leutenant, he makes them stronger. think of warren wothington III.


nope sorry, just skip through 3 commics back and 3 ahead of this one no mention of any power ups besides the bones.


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friendly bastard wrote: uhhh, ok, i think this adamantium skeleton is being pushed to the limit here. this is an endoskeleton. not an exoskeleton. the only thing those metal bones can protect is his skeleton. so stop saying wolvie cant be stop because he has adamantium skeleton. his skin, organs, etc can still be badly injured.

and this is funny, its like cap cant block wolvies attack. cap wont block wolvies claws with his hands. his not stupid. he can block the claws with his shield, or grab wolvies wrists so the claws wont touch him. cap is not helpless even if he doesnt have his shield.


The whole reason I posted wolverine taking a beating is to prove a point, can the cap dish it out more then the hulk? I think not.... Wolverine can still move foward even when hes full of holes... these just no way cap could do enough damage to a fighter that is just as good as he is.


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Gplex wrote:

friendly bastard wrote: uhhh, ok, i think this adamantium skeleton is being pushed to the limit here. this is an endoskeleton. not an exoskeleton. the only thing those metal bones can protect is his skeleton. so stop saying wolvie cant be stop because he has adamantium skeleton. his skin, organs, etc can still be badly injured.

and this is funny, its like cap cant block wolvies attack. cap wont block wolvies claws with his hands. his not stupid. he can block the claws with his shield, or grab wolvies wrists so the claws wont touch him. cap is not helpless even if he doesnt have his shield.


The whole reason I posted wolverine taking a beating is to prove a point, can the cap dish it out more then the hulk? I think not.... Wolverine can still move foward even when hes full of holes... these just no way cap could do enough damage to a fighter that is just as good as he is.


can cap deliver as much damage as the hulk? ok, he can hurt onslought, a being that can withstand a very very very mad hulks pucnhes. can ko a member of the wreking crew with just a punch. so yeah, i think cap has the power.


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the way i see it, wolview has the defensive edge since the healing factor. while cap has well, everything else actually.


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This could go either way..


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