captain america vs wolverine

the thing is Wolverine is a better martial arts fighter, but b/c of his feral side the animal inside him often takes over, and he fights brutally, but not intelligently.
If the two fought when Wolverine was using strategy (which he barely ever does in the comics, at least not as much as he can) it would be close.
But Cap would take this fight. Just b/c Wolverine would turn to Feral Wolverine halfway through the fight, and would go after Cap in a blind rage. Cap would then win in pure stategy

Wolverine can lose stamina. Once hes in the feral state he begins to fatigue

Khonshu311 wrote: the thing is Wolverine is a better martial arts fighter, but b/c of his feral side the animal inside him often takes over, and he fights brutally, but not intelligently.
If the two fought when Wolverine was using strategy (which he barely ever does in the comics, at least not as much as he can) it would be close.
But Cap would take this fight. Just b/c Wolverine would turn to Feral Wolverine halfway through the fight, and would go after Cap in a blind rage. Cap would then win in pure stategy

Wolverine can lose stamina. Once hes in the feral state he begins to fatigue

Maybe, the match could go either way. BUT what I was trying to point out was that Captian America was/is faster than Wolverine even though Wolvie (as I like calling him yol) is more agile and better skilled (in terms of martial arts) than Cap

Captian America is faster than Wolverine? Where did you get that?

Guile Grinder wrote: Captian America is faster than Wolverine? Where did you get that?

Doesn’t matter. Cap can dodge bullets, Wolverine can’t, that’s a good enough reason for yah

No it’s not

Guile Grinder wrote: No it’s not

Yes, it is!!!!

Alright, the comic book geek in me has to speak up because almost all of you all are mistaken. I get the impression that most of you are voting for your favorite, rather than the most formidable, because Captain America has Wolverine beat on every level of combat in every scenario possible.

Lets start with the weapons: Wolverines claws vs. Captain Americas Shield. Much like the super soldier serum that gave Captain America his powers, nobody knows exactly how his shield came to be. What we do know is that it is a vibranium and steel alloy mix, and that no earthly force can cut, scratch, dent, or break it. (I say earthly because Thor dented it once, then repaired it.) But Wolverine has tried to cut Caps shield on several occasions, with no success. Even the Hulk has never been able to damage Caps shield, although the Hulk has torn Wolverine in half...
Winner: Caps Shield

Secondly, we have physique. Wolverines only superhuman powers are his healing factor. His speed, strength, and senses are hightened above the level of a normal man, but they do not surpass human ability (i.e. they are not superhuman) Captain America, on the other hand, is human perfection. He is as strong and fast and agile as a human being can be, so the only way to outperform him is with SUPERhuman powers. And like I said Wolverine, unfortunately, is only human in that regard.
Winner: Captain America

Also, Captain America has unlimited staminia. Another effect of the super soldier serum, is that Caps body has stopped producing lactic acid, which is the substance that makes our muscles tired after using them for prolonged periods of time. So even if the battle were to be very long and drawn out, Wolverine will eventually tire from the melee while Cap would stay fresh for as long as it took.
Bonus Point: Captain America

Thirdly, we will adress strategy and technique. This is a no brainer. While Wolverine is a very skilled hand to hand fighter, it is undisputed throughout the Marvel universe that Captain America is both the greatest strategist and most skilled hand to hand fighter that exists. Nobody has ever beaten Captain America in a fair fight, toe to toe. If you dont believe me, look it up anywhere.
Winner: Captain America

Now, one advantage Wolverine does have is stealth. He is very assasin-like so I could see him beating Cap if he snuck up on him and stabbed him in his sleep. But this is a debate to see who would win in a fight, so I am assuming both characters know they are fighting eachother.

Lastly, Wolverine cant be killed easily, but there are several ways around that. As I explained earlier, Caps shield is stronger than Wolverines skeleton and Cap is surely strong enough to cause damage with it. Keep in mind that any blow Cap makes with his shield is unblockable, Wolverines only defence is to dodge, but he is much slower than Cap. A single blow to Wolverines head would cause severe brain damage, which Wolverine would begin to heal from, but Cap could dent Wolverines skull with his shield, preventing Wolverine from healing completely. Then with minimal effort Cap could pop off Wolverines now useless head by bringing the edge of the shield down on his neck, effective killing Wolverine as long as you keep the parts seperate.

If you disagree with any of the facts I have presented that back up my argument, please let me know and I will reference where I have gotten each piece of information.

P.S. Wolverine is Canadian, Captian America is the embodiment of American spirit. Did any of you people even factor that into your answers?

ryknow787 wrote:
Lastly, Wolverine cant be killed easily, but there are several ways around that. As I explained earlier, Caps shield is stronger than Wolverines skeleton and Cap is surely strong enough to cause damage with it. Keep in mind that any blow Cap makes with his shield is unblockable, Wolverines only defence is to dodge, but he is much slower than Cap. A single blow to Wolverines head would cause severe brain damage, which Wolverine would begin to heal from, but Cap could dent Wolverines skull with his shield, preventing Wolverine from healing completely.

I can agree with everything except this, so please explain. While the shield might be stronger than wolverine’s adamantium... What makes you say that Captain is strong enough to apply enough force with his sheild to actually damage the adamantium. Knowing how strong adamantium is, I would say it would take at least superhuman strength wielding the shield to actually damage adamantium. Just because one material is stronger than the other doesn’t mean it automatically hurts the other when they collide... sufficient force needs to be applied.

And why is his shield attack consider “unblockable?

ryknow787 wrote: Alright, the comic book geek in me has to speak up because almost all of you all are mistaken. I get the impression that most of you are voting for your favorite, rather than the most formidable, because Captain America has Wolverine beat on every level of combat in every scenario possible.

Lets start with the weapons: Wolverines claws vs. Captain Americas Shield. Much like the super soldier serum that gave Captain America his powers, nobody knows exactly how his shield came to be. What we do know is that it is a vibranium and steel alloy mix, and that no earthly force can cut, scratch, dent, or break it. (I say earthly because Thor dented it once, then repaired it.) But Wolverine has tried to cut Caps shield on several occasions, with no success. Even the Hulk has never been able to damage Caps shield, although the Hulk has torn Wolverine in half...
Winner: Caps Shield

Secondly, we have physique. Wolverines only superhuman powers are his healing factor. His speed, strength, and senses are hightened above the level of a normal man, but they do not surpass human ability (i.e. they are not superhuman) Captain America, on the other hand, is human perfection. He is as strong and fast and agile as a human being can be, so the only way to outperform him is with SUPERhuman powers. And like I said Wolverine, unfortunately, is only human in that regard.
Winner: Captain America

Also, Captain America has unlimited staminia. Another effect of the super soldier serum, is that Caps body has stopped producing lactic acid, which is the substance that makes our muscles tired after using them for prolonged periods of time. So even if the battle were to be very long and drawn out, Wolverine will eventually tire from the melee while Cap would stay fresh for as long as it took.
Bonus Point: Captain America

Thirdly, we will adress strategy and technique. This is a no brainer. While Wolverine is a very skilled hand to hand fighter, it is undisputed throughout the Marvel universe that Captain America is both the greatest strategist and most skilled hand to hand fighter that exists. Nobody has ever beaten Captain America in a fair fight, toe to toe. If you dont believe me, look it up anywhere.
Winner: Captain America

Now, one advantage Wolverine does have is stealth. He is very assasin-like so I could see him beating Cap if he snuck up on him and stabbed him in his sleep. But this is a debate to see who would win in a fight, so I am assuming both characters know they are fighting eachother.

Lastly, Wolverine cant be killed easily, but there are several ways around that. As I explained earlier, Caps shield is stronger than Wolverines skeleton and Cap is surely strong enough to cause damage with it. Keep in mind that any blow Cap makes with his shield is unblockable, Wolverines only defence is to dodge, but he is much slower than Cap. A single blow to Wolverines head would cause severe brain damage, which Wolverine would begin to heal from, but Cap could dent Wolverines skull with his shield, preventing Wolverine from healing completely. Then with minimal effort Cap could pop off Wolverines now useless head by bringing the edge of the shield down on his neck, effective killing Wolverine as long as you keep the parts seperate.

If you disagree with any of the facts I have presented that back up my argument, please let me know and I will reference where I have gotten each piece of information.

P.S. Wolverine is Canadian, Captian America is the embodiment of American spirit. Did any of you people even factor that into your answers?

Hmmmm, you know ryknow787 (cool name by the way), I won’t argue with you on this one because it seems you know exactly what your talking about. But you know, I was thinking:

Why don’t you jot this down in the Wolverine vs Spider-Man and Captian America vs Spider-Man (Marvel’s Finest) thread? And I mean everything!!!
The fan boys there definately need to see this-trust me!!!! And if you actually read what guys post there, then trust me, they definately need to
see this statement. So, what do you say?

Also the Captian America vs Daredevil vs Wolverine vs Spider-Man (Fatal 4 Way) thread!!!!

Guile Grinder wrote: Also the Captian America vs Daredevil vs Wolverine vs Spider-Man (Fatal 4 Way) thread!!!!

Yeah, that too!!!

Well theres you answer

Ryo Ketchum wrote: Well theres you answer

Shut-up

ryknow787 wrote: Alright, the comic book geek in me has to speak up because almost all of you all are mistaken. I get the impression that most of you are voting for your favorite, rather than the most formidable, because Captain America has Wolverine beat on every level of combat in every scenario possible.

Lets start with the weapons: Wolverines claws vs. Captain Americas Shield. Much like the super soldier serum that gave Captain America his powers, nobody knows exactly how his shield came to be. What we do know is that it is a vibranium and steel alloy mix, and that no earthly force can cut, scratch, dent, or break it. (I say earthly because Thor dented it once, then repaired it.) But Wolverine has tried to cut Caps shield on several occasions, with no success. Even the Hulk has never been able to damage Caps shield, although the Hulk has torn Wolverine in half...
Winner: Caps Shield

Secondly, we have physique. Wolverines only superhuman powers are his healing factor. His speed, strength, and senses are hightened above the level of a normal man, but they do not surpass human ability (i.e. they are not superhuman) Captain America, on the other hand, is human perfection. He is as strong and fast and agile as a human being can be, so the only way to outperform him is with SUPERhuman powers. And like I said Wolverine, unfortunately, is only human in that regard.
Winner: Captain America

Also, Captain America has unlimited staminia. Another effect of the super soldier serum, is that Caps body has stopped producing lactic acid, which is the substance that makes our muscles tired after using them for prolonged periods of time. So even if the battle were to be very long and drawn out, Wolverine will eventually tire from the melee while Cap would stay fresh for as long as it took.
Bonus Point: Captain America

Thirdly, we will adress strategy and technique. This is a no brainer. While Wolverine is a very skilled hand to hand fighter, it is undisputed throughout the Marvel universe that Captain America is both the greatest strategist and most skilled hand to hand fighter that exists. Nobody has ever beaten Captain America in a fair fight, toe to toe. If you dont believe me, look it up anywhere.
Winner: Captain America

Now, one advantage Wolverine does have is stealth. He is very assasin-like so I could see him beating Cap if he snuck up on him and stabbed him in his sleep. But this is a debate to see who would win in a fight, so I am assuming both characters know they are fighting eachother.

Lastly, Wolverine cant be killed easily, but there are several ways around that. As I explained earlier, Caps shield is stronger than Wolverines skeleton and Cap is surely strong enough to cause damage with it. Keep in mind that any blow Cap makes with his shield is unblockable, Wolverines only defence is to dodge, but he is much slower than Cap. A single blow to Wolverines head would cause severe brain damage, which Wolverine would begin to heal from, but Cap could dent Wolverines skull with his shield, preventing Wolverine from healing completely. Then with minimal effort Cap could pop off Wolverines now useless head by bringing the edge of the shield down on his neck, effective killing Wolverine as long as you keep the parts seperate.

If you disagree with any of the facts I have presented that back up my argument, please let me know and I will reference where I have gotten each piece of information.

P.S. Wolverine is Canadian, Captian America is the embodiment of American spirit. Did any of you people even factor that into your answers?

LOL, you actually think captain america can dent adamantium... ahahah man that’s about as stupid as that guy who said magneto could rip out superman’s blood...

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Captain America IS A BETTER MARTIAL ARTIST! He went toe to toe with Batman who is a 8th degree blackbelt in ninjitsu! and Captain doesnt get tired, Has a sheild that wolverine could never penetrate, He is smarter. and he would have a plan to beat wolverine. Captain america wins

Never Back Down, because it might be the last thing you do

I’m pretty sure that Captain fucking America wins this.
Not some drunk Canadian.

dlp49 wrote: Captain America IS A BETTER MARTIAL ARTIST! He went toe to toe with Batman who is a 8th degree blackbelt in ninjitsu! and Captain doesnt get tired, Has a sheild that wolverine could never penetrate, He is smarter. and he would have a plan to beat wolverine. Captain america wins

Yea like wolverine never plans anything. Unlike cap, wolverine won’t lose his unbreakable weapons in a fight.

Dream of the Endless wrote: I’m pretty sure that Captain fucking America wins this.
Not some drunk Canadian.

Lol.

Cid wrote: You flame religions and its followers without even considering their side of the story. You’re not much different from Hitler with his extermination of the jews

dlp49 wrote: Captain America IS A BETTER MARTIAL ARTIST! He went toe to toe with Batman who is a 8th degree blackbelt in ninjitsu! and Captain doesnt get tired, Has a sheild that wolverine could never penetrate, He is smarter. and he would have a plan to beat wolverine. Captain america wins

Wow wow wow wow. Captian America is a better martial artist than Wolverine? Where did you get that? And what do you mean by saying Cap never gets tired?

Cap has superhuman endurance and his fitness is over the peak of a human, quote “stronger than strongest Olympic lifter, faster than the fastest Olympic sprinter” and he is an expert at hand to hand combat. Wolverine can Fight but martial artist? he really doesnt show much skill when fighting, just strength and brawling style.

Never Back Down, because it might be the last thing you do

i still don’t get it